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 #1164725


Hila0587
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 Spiny Tail

I dont really know where to post this so I am posting it here. The pet shop that I go to locally has a desert spiny lizard. I have never heard of it and I have tried to research it but I cant find anything about it? Is there another name for it or what? I want to get it out of the shop it is in now. She has it in a 5 and a half gallon, it appears to be full grown, and It looks cramped but I dont want to get something I cant take care of. I have 2 anoles and a long-tail lizard (grass lizard) are they similar? Any help wpuld be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
--Hila
02/07/07  05:36pm

 #1164803


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more advantage than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:09pm

 #1164806


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more advantage than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:10pm

 #1164810


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more advantage than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:13pm

 #1164820


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more advantage than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:15pm

 #1164824


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more advantage than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:15pm

 #1164832


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more experience than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:17pm

 #1164845


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164725


 Spiny Tail

Sounds like a type of uromastyx



or maybe a spiny tailed monitor... also known as an Ackie



If it is one of these... keep in mind they are both pretty large species; especially compared to anoles or grass lizards. You will need at bare minimum a 40 gallon breeder for either of these... though i would recommend bigger for the ackie. If you donft have more experience than anoles or grass lizards an impulse buy on one of these is highly inadvisable
02/07/07  06:20pm

 #1164938


Hila0587
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   Message To: Tatsu86   In reference to Message Id: 1164806


 Spiny Tail

Hey Thanks for you input I believe the cage is mislabeled I talked to the pet store owner and she has informed me that he now has a bigger cage and requires the same amount of attention as anoles only with a heat rock....or so she was told...
Thanks again!
-Hila
02/07/07  07:15pm

 #1164940


Hila0587
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   Message To: Tatsu86   In reference to Message Id: 1164806


 Spiny Tail

Hey Thanks for you input I believe the cage is mislabeled I talked to the pet store owner and she has informed me that he now has a bigger cage and requires the same amount of attention as anoles only with a heat rock....or so she was told...
Thanks again!
-Hila
02/07/07  07:15pm

 #1164979


Hila0587
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   Message To: Tatsu86   In reference to Message Id: 1164845


 Spiny Tail

Its not either of those.....its latin name is Sceloporus magister and everywhere i have looked it has no info on captive desert spineys



02/07/07  07:56pm

 #1165217


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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164979


 Spiny Tail

Link Is this it? If so, then it is basic desert reptile care, feed crickets, 100+ basking spot, low humidity etc. Just use your Imagination.
02/07/07  11:06pm

 #1165221


Acken
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164979


 Spiny Tail

Just look up some information of its natural habitat and diet, then take that information, along with a basic desert reptile set-up (low humidity, 100+ basking apot, sand substrate, etc.) and use you best judgement on cage size. Once you have a basic set-up you can listen to the lizard and if it becomes unhealthy or unactive, find the error in your husbandry and correct it.
02/07/07  11:07pm

 #1165223


Acken
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1164979


 Spiny Tail

Just look up some information of its natural habitat and diet, then take that information, along with a basic desert reptile set-up (low humidity, 100+ basking apot, sand substrate, etc.) and use you best judgement on cage size. Once you have a basic set-up you can listen to the lizard and if it becomes unhealthy or unactive, find the error in your husbandry and correct it.
02/07/07  11:07pm

 #1165965


Tatsu86
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   Message To: Acken   In reference to Message Id: 1165223


 Spiny Tail

yeah... that looks a good deal like a swift... my guess is itfs probably related... which means itfs probably a good beginner herp like a swift
02/08/07  05:16pm

 #1166464


Acken
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   Message To: Tatsu86   In reference to Message Id: 1165965


 Spiny Tail

Ive seen these guys in the wild, I do live in their native state of arizona, they are very flighty and hide in burrows, so a deep substrate like plain dirt or sand mix would be best, and usually are at very gnary thorny brush, and near water. Dont handel them and leave them alone, they are very fast and have large territory so a large cage should be offered. In my opinion they are quite similier to collard lizards, they eat insects, other lizards, and occasional plant matter.
02/08/07  10:41pm

 #1166618


Hila0587
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   Message To: Acken   In reference to Message Id: 1166464


 Spiny Tail

Thanks for the info guy! I really apperciate it. The link you sent was right, it is one of those lizards. I do believe I am going to buy the spiny and get a 29 gallon more than likely. Ill keep everyone posted and post some pics as soon as I can get them and figure out how to put them on here!!!
Thanks again!!
--Hila
02/09/07  02:20am

 #1166951


Steve905
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   Message To: Hila0587   In reference to Message Id: 1166618


 Spiny Tail

Remember youl probly need to treat him like a bearded dragon which means hell need a UVB bulb also...Just a FYI for you
02/09/07  01:09pm

 #1166997


Acken
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   Message To: Steve905   In reference to Message Id: 1166951


 Spiny Tail

The fact that UV is needed for any reptile is debatable, but if you decide that you need it, go for a Mercury Vapor Bulb, because they are the only ones that actually emit useable amounts of UV, the long, tube bulbs have been shown to provide so little that no reptile will find them useable. Or why dont you just use a good D3 vitmian suppliment, instead of leaving it to a bulb? (I use Miner-All)

Brandon
02/09/07  02:18pm


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