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 #1643105


Marc2x
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 How can I help him or her?

Well my grandma found an alligator lizard outside right next to my garage and I took a look at it and its injured........its tail is missing few scratches on the neck (doesn’t look that bad)but the biggest problem is Threes a really small hole right in its rib cage its about as big as a tip of a fork and you can barely see 1 rib of the lizard.Hes doing OK right now (hes sleeping with my iguana)but will it regenerate its a really small hole hes been doing good for the past few days.I’m in San Diego and it looks like hes hibernating because hes always sleeping and not eating much.



02/29/08  08:56pm

 #1643755


Albinoboy29
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  Message To: Marc2x   In reference to Message Id: 1643105


 How can I help him or her?

If you are willing to keep him and take care of him as a pet. Go and take him to the vet. For like 40 dollars they will give you some antibiotics or somthing so the lizard doesnt get sick...But that is a good thing that you are taking care of it. Is it thin? if so feed it some wax worms, Go to Bigappleherp and maybe get some drops that will increase his appetite.



03/01/08  03:15pm

 #1644131


Muffin__WOman
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  Message To: Albinoboy29   In reference to Message Id: 1643755


 How can I help him or her?

There are some wildlife reserves down South in Chula Visa, maybe try taking it there[I can’t rember what it is called but if you did a search for it on google then you should be able to find it]? They may be able to give you some pointers on how help it, or even give you some free anti-biotics [ or cheep ones ]. Going to a vet is the best choice though, they will be able to help you the most.

Good Luck!



03/01/08  09:03pm

 #1644863


Marc2x
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  Message To: Albinoboy29   In reference to Message Id: 1643755


 How can I help him or her?

Naa its not thin its a bit fat.............its always sleeping and hes has scabes on that open wound so i guess its healing.But he does walk a bit wobly becuase his tail is missing.............................I sprayed him with reptile relief to get of mites and ticks.I names him Mr.Fizz but then im not sure if I should release him or not once he gets better.As for food Igave him crickets but then he just falls asleep so..........yeah hes doing ok.



03/02/08  02:43pm

 #1647151


PrinceSushi
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  Message To: Marc2x   In reference to Message Id: 1644863


 How can I help him or her?

Sounds like a cat got him and it sounds like he has some internal injuries. With the visible puncture wounds and lethargy I would say its pretty bad, most likely not going to survive in the long run.

Anyways, take him out of the cage with the iguana, they require completely different care and you are going to be lucky if the ig doesn’t eat him.

Definitely contact your local wild life/fish and game office. He needs to receive treatment from a wild life vet. I understand you want to keep him but I think you should hand this one over to fish and game and catch a healthier one. Alli season is coming up so it shouldn’t be that hard for you to find another.




03/04/08  02:56am

 #1647756


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  Message To: Marc2x   In reference to Message Id: 1644863


 How can I help him or her?

hey Mark,
Sounds like your doing just fine with your new friend. I also live in San Diego and once in a while I find injured Alligator lizards. Taking them to a reptile vet is of course the best advise anyone can give you. You will find that these lizards are quite tough and with a warm dry place to recover they often survive horrible injuries. I have a three legged Alligator Lizard that lives under my workshop. I accidently hit him with my weed whip. i stopped the bleeding with "Quick Stop" and put him in a tank to recover. i let him go as soon as he ate on his own and shed his old skin. Everyone seems to have a different opinion about keeping these indiginious reptiles in captivity. I only keep them for as long as Im certain they cant make it on their own.
Good luck with your Lizard,
James



03/04/08  04:48pm

 #1648551


Aliceinwl
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  Message To: Bjornalligator   In reference to Message Id: 1647756


 How can I help him or her?

Sounds like the care is fine, and good luck with him.

Since he’s been housed with your iguana, however, I don’t think release is an option. There is no telling what bacteria, viruses or parasites may have been transmitted. Releasing such an animal could jeopardize wild populations (California has laws against releasing herps that have been in captivity for exactly this reason). If he recovers, he should be a permanent pet. If you can’t keep him long term, please pass him off to someone else rather than releasing him.



03/05/08  01:12am

 #1648610


PrinceSushi
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  Message To: Aliceinwl   In reference to Message Id: 1648551


 How can I help him or her?

All you have to do is hand it over to fish and game, they can have it looked at by a vet, treated and housed until a vet deems it safe to release. Once in captivity doesn’t always mean it will remain in captivity.



03/05/08  04:11am

 #1651263


Aliceinwl
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  Message To: PrinceSushi   In reference to Message Id: 1648610


 How can I help him or her?

Fish and game does not have the budget to provide veterinary care and there is no way to certify that the lizard is "safe". If they were to allow the release of such a lizard, they would be negligent. I have friend who did his doctoral research on rattlesnakes. These snakes were never exposed to other herps. At the conclusion of the research, these snakes had to be deposited in a museum (as preserved specimens) because there was still a chance that they may have picked up something in captivity. To release a lizard that has been housed with a non-native species which is carrying its full compliment of bacteria, parasites, and viruses is grossly negligent. The respiratory virus plaguing captive desert tortoises is a prime example of the danger posed by releasing animals that have been in captivity. I strongly feel that because strict quarantine procedures were not followed, and this animal had contact with an exotic species, it should not be released. The potential benefits of releasing this lizard are dwarfed by the potential risks such a release poses to the wild population. If the lizard had not had exposure to an exotic, and the release was sanctioned by fish and game, I would not have a problem with it.



03/07/08  03:43am

 #1651563


PrinceSushi
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  Message To: Aliceinwl   In reference to Message Id: 1651263


 How can I help him or her?

Fish and game doesn’t always pay for the vet and treatment fees them self, in fact they commonly take the animals to appropriate rescues and facilities that are funded by the state. Its very similar to wild birds. With medication, treatment and enough time in a sterile environment any potential disease(if curable) can be eliminated and the animal can once again go back into the wild.

I’ve handed a number of injured reptiles(mainly snakes) and wild finches over to fish and game, the ones that could live a normal life in the wild were all treated and released while the ones that were too injured were kept in captivity.

The rattlesnakes were most likely not released because California doesn’t exactly like most species of them(particularly the diamond back), which is exactly why you are allowed to kill and handle them with out a permit. Why release a species which we are trying to keep under control?



03/07/08  01:41pm

 #1654999


Aliceinwl
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  Message To: PrinceSushi   In reference to Message Id: 1651563


 How can I help him or her?

My friend was limited on the number of rattlesnakes collected at a given locality to avoid depleting rattlesnake populations since he was collecting gravid females. Disease was the primary concern. I suspect that we’re dealing with different policies from different regional offices of DFG. I still feel that release of this particular animal would be irresponsible. Infections may not be apparent in captivity when the needs of the animal are being met, but they may still be present and flare up when the animal is subjected to the stresses of a wild environment. I’d agree with you if this animal had not been housed with the iguana.



03/10/08  12:42am


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