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#1578384
Simbaah
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To Big Ol Gator or who ever knows 
Hey I was thinking about moving to Rural Florida and getting a house with some acres and I was thinking about getting some gators and some caiman and keeping them outside year round in ponds with fencing and maybe adopting some nusiance gators but I know the Florida reptile laws are super strict, you gotta have a permit now just to own a Nile Monitor but anyways, I just want some details on how Floridians aquire permits, I know now you must have at least 2 to 5 acres but I want to know how long and wide is the minimum pond sizes and fenced in areas and if there are any other processes involved in getting permits there other than paying 100 dollers a month, are there any restrictions on what food items you are allowed to feed them there and do you have to take classes there first and must you aquire wild life after permit is issued. The webites just dont give enough details. If the whole process isn’t to stressful I might try it out in Florida and take some nusaince gators off there hands cuz I was gonna get at least 5 acres which should provide alot of room. I know a whole lot about crocodilians but I just want (the specifics about Florida laws and regulations) Thank you to who ever responds........
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01/14/08 01:25pm
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#1578403
Simbaah
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1578384
To Big Ol Gator or who ever knows
I ment to say 100 dollars a year.
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01/14/08 01:47pm
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#1582912
Simbaah
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1578403
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bump
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01/17/08 08:21pm
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#1583354
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1582912
To Big Ol Gator or who ever knows
It isn’t just Fl Stat law, you have county and city regulations, Rural areas are still county..you have to follow guidelines. If you want the best advice, contact the Fl Wildlife conservation commission. I think if things havent changed, just to APPLY for a permit is a 250.00 fee and thats JUST for the oportunity for them to say yay or nay. get in touch with the fish and game and find out FROM THE SOURCE...different requirements for different areas....at least you can get an idea, get it set up and THEN apply.. I wish I could give Detail but the laws change so damn much its hard to keep up and I move back and forth all the time. Now My Brother keepss my guys for me in Fl but We fall under reservation law and now US and state law... so our process was different from what you would have to go through...
It never hurts to ask questions...
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01/18/08 01:34am
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#1586053
Krokadilyanguy3
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 1583354
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You can not keep alligators as "pets" in Florida, and there’s a load more paper work and responsibility in trying, and a whole lot more permits. If you have the time and cash, you could try but I’d ignore them, obtaining a class I permit was easier.
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01/19/08 09:03pm
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#1586484
Simbaah
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Message To: Krokadilyanguy3 In reference to Message Id: 1586053
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If I really wanted to bad enough I would just move out far away in the country and have some gators and say screw the law, but we shall see which is better to do, well I actually read on the FWL website that they do give permits to people in Florida for (pet alligators) or for (personal use) if they have enough land and proper facilities/enclosures but if they say hell no I guess I will still have a bunch of crocs LOL screw em....... And I would really consider getting permits for crocodilians if it were possible in a crazy state like FLorida but not for a monitor lizard, they got me bent if they expect me to pay the state to keep a freakin lizard........Some of the laws are good and I understand but some are just silly, by making it harder for people to keep crocs legally in a good outdoor setting that leads to more people trying to hide thier crocs and more people end up dumping gators into the wild that have lost thier fear of humans not that I would ever dump one, I would tell them you can have the croc after you pry the gun out of my dead cold hands but really it leads to more people dumping gators, I believe crocs are not for everyone and they are not for those who lack the passion to care for a croc for life but for those people who do care past the cool factor they should be able to get permits without all the hassle, I mean people are gonna have crocs regardless but it would be better for the people and the crocs if the laws were better.......
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01/20/08 02:19am
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#1587293
Krokadilyanguy3
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1586484
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Give me a link of the statues that state this if you can. Everything I’ve read and my Warden tells me it won’t happen unless you have either an educational or a monetary type purpose.
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01/20/08 06:56pm
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#1587696
Simbaah
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Message To: Krokadilyanguy3 In reference to Message Id: 1587293
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Its FWL FLorida Wildlife website, I dont have the link but the info is on there with the new 2008 rules and regulations and crocodilians fall into (class 2 wild life) its kinda hard to find sometimes, you might have to use the websites search engine and look up pet alligators, thats how I finally found the info and the actually applications online. Peace It looks maybe promising but I wanted other peoples feed back as well.......
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01/20/08 10:54pm
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#1587822
Krokadilyanguy3
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1587696
To Big Ol Gator or who ever knows
This is the information I recieved when I wrote my website and obtained my permits.
Florida Alligators: Class III
Caimen: Class II (All Alligatoridae family animals except the listed below and American.)
Gavialidae: Class I
Crocodilidae: Class I
M. niger: Class I
Osteolaemus: Class II
Class I wildlife shall not be possessed for personal use.
Persons possessing Class II wildlife as personal use wildlife shall purchase a permit.
Persons possessing Class III wildlife as personal use wildlife shall obtain a no-cost permit from the Executive Director. American alligators shall not be possessed as personal use wildlife and shall be possessed only in accordance with permits issued under rule 68A-9.002, F.A.C., ss. 372.6673 or372.921, Florida Statutes.
If this has changed, most of us are unaware.
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01/21/08 01:05am
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#1587832
Simbaah
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Message To: Krokadilyanguy3 In reference to Message Id: 1587822
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Alot changed in 2008 and alot of species that anyone could own as domestic have now been called (animals or reptiles of concern) and now some snakes and lizards and other mammals now require a permit to possess which formally were legal. I understand permits fpr certain animals but all the hassle different states put caring owners through only leads to more trouble........Peace
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01/21/08 01:19am
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#1588313
Krokadilyanguy3
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1587832
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Yeah, I know about all the bills being passed, just have yet to have been told about anything with crocodilians.
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01/21/08 02:14pm
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