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#1614589 Tinnydieu
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How high should the water be for baby caiman?  I’ve realized that when i have my water too high he doesnt seem to like going into the water but when its shorter its always in there 24/7 all the time. He’s also not eating ever since i changed his enclosure a little bit. Any advice?
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02/07/08 09:46pm
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#1614634 CelticTigeress
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1614589
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  you know I try to be patient, and I try to be understanding I try to offer advice.. you hav a caiman already you ask questions when evidently you did NO research and I am polite I try and help, only to note a day later your looking for ANOTHER friggen Caiman and then THIS Post, A your taking up the bloody forum whn you can keep it on one post and B it seems you didnt look into th responsibility of Caiman care and proper husbandry, WHAT in Hecks name were you thinking?? did you not realize the responsibility did you not research to find out WHAT is involved in care? your questioning proper diet!?!?! thats LEVEL 1 REASEARCH!!!!!!!! That is a question considered BEFORE purchase, and now with the water?? Why the heck do you want a second caiman when you cannot even take care of the first one!?!?!?! Crocs stress when things are changed, water cleaning and environment in general especially young ones, personally I think you should find a home for your first Caiman, get something easier to care for and research...given questions you hav asked I do not think your ready I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt but .... ~shakes head~ Poor lil guy
My advice go to your library its this public place where books are stored... and read up on proper husbandry....research it and pray that your poor animal dosnt die whil your in the "learning and not quite researched process"
dont sit here and tell me you researched either, if you had you would not be asking all the questions you have asked... I guess I will help because I cant see an animal suffer...but dont get a second till you can take care of the first without needing to ask BASIC husbandry questions
First... go to a vet, if it still is not eating there is a problem a BIG problem, check your temperature of the water and basking area, chang in environment can cause difficulties, as for water watr level should be deep enough for the animal to fully submerge itsself and comfortably swim around... how big is the tank?? does he have room to turn around fully?? you need to find a vet that will look at him..and please dont say you dont know where one is, thats one of th rsponsibile things to check for BEFORE getting an animal....
Internet husbandry as well, google is a WONDERFUL thing
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02/07/08 10:10pm
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#1614648 Tinnydieu
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 1614634
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  well for some reason he doesnt like swimming, he has enough space to turn around and he also does have enough water to submerge itself. the water temp is about 25 degrees. i dont think there should be anything wrong with it. maybe its just not hungry, its been 3 days. mayb im just over reacting.
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02/07/08 10:16pm
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#1614653 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1614648
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  i did read all that stuff but everyone site i search from google are giving me different answers so i want to ask here and see what answers i get. just find it a little odd because he use to love the water now he never goes in whole way just half his body in.
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02/07/08 10:19pm
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#1614807 Simbaah
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1614653
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTT 25 degrees is way to low, it should be about 70 to 80 degrees with room temps at least 60 or more, no wonder the caiman wont eat, they dont get appetites under 60 ro 70 degrees and they cant digest thier food at those temps, 25 degrees would cause you caiman to go into a state of hibernation, actuall probly worse cuz they need more heat than alligators. Please get those temps up before your caiman dies....... BY THE WAY, YES CAIMAN ARE MORE COMFORTABLE IN SHALLOW WATERS BUT IT MUST BE DEEP ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE FULLY SUBMERGED, WARM YOUR CAIMAN UP......THAT WATER IS TO COLD
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02/08/08 12:16am
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#1614812 Simbaah
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1614807
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  I ment to say 80 or more for room temps, basking area should be 90 degrees, water should be around 75 to 80 degrees....... You do realize that 25 degrees is below freezing right? DO you want a caiman popscicle????
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02/08/08 12:19am
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#1614943 Rat snake lover
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1614812
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  what the heck were you thinking he mucst be a retard becouse 25 degrees would you live in that no
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02/08/08 07:26am
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#1615139 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Rat snake lover In reference to Message Id: 1614943
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  no dude you got me all wrong man. im canadian so go by celcius which is equivilent to about 75-80 farenhiet. but ever since i got it nice basking area its been chilling there ever since. never likes to touch the water. my water is about 2 inches high, perhaps it doesnt like it that high?
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02/08/08 12:01pm
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#1615141 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1615139
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  he doesnt really know how to swim ether, he kicks once and a while but go in for like a 2 second dip and just comes back on land. he does float that well ether, he still is learning how to balance in water.
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02/08/08 12:04pm
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#1616046 Simbaah
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1615141
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  Sorry, thats a lot better, but anyways, all caiman can swim but dwarf caiman rather like to sit with thier head poking out of the shallow water and sit some more and just sit and sit and move every now and then, shallow water is good but they should be able to submerge if they want to, they like alot of land too, they like to perch on rocks and be in the shallows since they live in shallow creeks and river edges in south America and burrow in the ground........
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02/09/08 12:14am
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#1616124 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1616046
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  now he’s been improving, he floats on the water and spends alot more time on the water now. But i think he has trouble disgesting his food, although this is a little off topic. He refused to eat the meal worms im feeding him for about 5 days now. i wonder if its because he doesnt like it or its taking him extremely slow to digest the food i fed him on monday which is now saturday.
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02/09/08 02:28am
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#1616127 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1616124
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  He hasn’t took a crap during those days also, so im just wondering if theres anything i could try to help my caiman disgest faster and eat on the regular. Any advice or info will be much appreciated. Sorry for all these questions but i just wanna make sure everything is correct and hearing from more experienced breeders.
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02/09/08 02:42am
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#1616352 Simbaah
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1616127
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  Dont feed to many worms, it can make him constipated, I know cuz mine wouldn’t have a bowl movement in 2 weeks a year ago so I took him off worms and his constipation was gone.
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02/09/08 11:32am
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#1617406 Tinnydieu
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1616352
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  ya he refuses to eat worms from now on. i wonder if i do a mix of crickets and worms would be starting eating them agian? and if he still doesnt decide to eat what other advice can you give me simbaah. i really appreciate your posts.
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02/10/08 03:19am
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#1618629 Rat snake lover
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1617406
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  oh sorry i guess that is better i am glad he is improving his skills
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02/10/08 08:38pm
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#1618834 Gustave
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Message To: Rat snake lover In reference to Message Id: 1618629
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  JIMOB GINGUGUA!!!!! YOU ARE A BAD KEEPER!!!! NO MORE CROCS IN HOME!!!!!! NO MORE CROCS FOR ANYBODY!!! BAD PEOPLE YOU SEE CROCS IN RIVERS!!!!!!!!!! HUGUJUITO!!!!!!!!!! GERTUOJAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02/10/08 09:59pm
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#1643387 Gator4sale
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Message To: Tinnydieu In reference to Message Id: 1614589
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  your water should be in the 70’ about 2-3 in, they spend more time on land than water, i have have many i caught the largest wild in the US it was 7 1/2 ft, have only had 2 tame ones,
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03/01/08 03:14am
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#1643478 Bam
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Message To: Gator4sale In reference to Message Id: 1643387
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  I’d certainly listen to Celtic Princess before Gator4sale when it comes to Caiman. But that’s me. I have a hard time listening to anyone who says they caught "many" caiman in the wild in the United States and especially a "7 1/2 foot" caiman, in the wild, in the United States and that he had more than one caiman that was "tame" that he caught wild, in the United States. But that’s just me. If you have no idea what you’re doing, don’t do it. It’s not good for you. It’s not good for the animal. It’s not good for the environment.
On the other hand, if you want to learn a little something about caiman, just type "Caiman" or "Caiman Hunter" into google and search your little heart out.
But don’t keep asking until you find the one person who agrees with you. If ten people say that you’re a horse, it’s time to buy a bit and saddle.
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03/01/08 08:47am
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#1643721 Simbaah
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Message To: Bam In reference to Message Id: 1643478
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  LOL I never caught that before....... How can you catch wild caiman in the USA when they are from South America LOL
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03/01/08 02:41pm
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#1650257 Servc
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Message To: Simbaah In reference to Message Id: 1643721
How high should the water be for baby caiman?  you can find speckled caimans in Florida in the wild from people releasing their pets and it starting a breading population.
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03/06/08 01:30pm
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