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#45977
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 American Alligators
I have an American Alligator, does any one else here have one? Here is a picture of my dad and our gator laying on his lap. He is kind of small in this picture.
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03/13/04 9:12pm
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#55117
Ali-woman
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Message To: I_love_gators In reference to Message Id: 45977
American Alligators
I jsut bought a American Alligator two days ago. So, how can you tell if it is a male or female??
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04/05/04 6:50pm
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#55282
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 55117
American Alligators
Love Gators....Obviously you dont read before you go on a posting spree..... if you did you would note most of us on here have Gators one to many at a time as well as other reptiles hence the reason for this try pausing and reading what others post every now and then and you might just save yourself from asking a question that could have been avoided by common sense......I could count MANY on here that have Gators.... Ali darlin, several ways most recommend "popping" a Gator but all in all dont if your that concerned take it to the petshop..besides the petstore should have sexed it for you before you walked out.. why not ask them? would hate to hear you named a little boy some girly name *giggles*Or you could always use a duel name like Sam..... Sorry had to add that darlin oooooooooooooooh Bayou!!!
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04/06/04 4:06am
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#55382
Ali-woman
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 55282
 American Alligators
Just to let YOU know i did read all of the questions and responses and obviously I still felt the need to ask. The person at the pet shop was NOT very informative and could not answer a lot of questions I had. That is why I am here asking and reading from people who own MANY gators, so I can learn more, thank you for responding back to me and for answer my question. I will keep reading to find out more as I go.
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04/06/04 10:48am
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#55841
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 55382
American Alligators
Ali..... CHILL OUT ....two words to take to heart the comment about reading wasnt directed towards you if you read closely...it was in reference to Love asking if anyone owned Gators as for the petstore you should have asked if anything though many that sell have NO concept and tend to lie.. hell in Fl they sell baby caimans as baby gators to tourists passing them off...... Of cours that seems the way of things but as recommended I would suggest finding a good reptile vet as well to help you, and make sure that if it is a baby that you feed it FREQUENTLY the first year of a Gatorsl ife is them ost important with eating...feed feed feed.....I can promise as it getsb igger your food bill will be HUGE *giggle* but they are worth it in the long run and make sure to hold it as well...get it adapted you will get bit its inevitable everyone does but dont let that dissuade you
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04/07/04 5:14am
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#55961
Ali-woman
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 55841
 American Alligators
Thank You. Sorry for snapping i thought I was being called and idiot. Been holding him a lot lately, fed him 1 goldfish the first day, and 1 goldfish last night which was two days later, doesn’t seem to want to eat much more than that. Should I do a mix of food like, bugs and some meat? Not sure.
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04/07/04 11:11am
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#55976
Ali-woman
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 55841
 American Alligators
Also Do you know anything about Ball pythons? I have one and it is not eating at all, they say that it is the hardest breed to feed, but my old one ate like a champ, this one is just curling up into a ball and not moving for nothing even when I pick him up?:?
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04/07/04 11:24am
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#56012
Tegator
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 55976
 American Alligators
Goldfish have no nutritional value. Try pinkies or hoppers (mice). I get mine from www.themousefactory.com, pretty reasonable prices. Also how long have you had your Ball? Do you have a heat lamp? What is the ambient temp of the enclosure? Do you have a hide box for him? What kind of substrate do you use? When was the last time he defecated?
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04/07/04 12:13pm
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#56031
Ali-woman
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Message To: Tegator In reference to Message Id: 56012
American Alligators
No, I feed my alligator fish, my ball gets live mice, but he is not eating. there si hiding for him, and trust me that is all he does is hide. Temp is accurate, I just got this ball about9 days ago, so he has not done anything since i have had him. He just seems real skiddish and my last ball was the complete opposit. Do u think he jsut has to get used to his surrondings?
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04/07/04 12:43pm
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#56044
Dusty
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Message To: Tegator In reference to Message Id: 56012
 American Alligators
Ok for your gator... ...see what the water temp is... ...if it’s too cold it will retard the feeding habits. Also, if you are "hand feeding" him out of the tank, he may just be nervous. Try chucking him a pinky or some crickets (crickets are great to induce feeding if pinkies dont work right off the start) in the tank. Gold fish are ok on occation as treats but don’t feed too much. They cause a deficiencey in Vit B. Other foods > Crayfish, worms (big fat juicy one, short little slimy ones ;) ), Super worms, crickets, prawns/shrimp, mice, mice, mice, chicks, lizards and frog (not for me, not for all). The longer you have him the better he’ll get with feeding. Keep the temp over 78 and make sure he’s got a basking spot out of the water that is easy to reach. Good luck :) No worries as he gets used to you he’ll get better. As far as the Ball my input will be the run around... ...my recomendations. If it’s never eaten; try a gerbal. It will take a while to ween him but (if he eats the gerbil) you can eventually train him to mice... ...it’s a pain but it’s better then a dead ball. Dusty
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04/07/04 12:51pm
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#56058
Sunshine
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 56031
American Alligators
hello...ali-woman....i saw your message and just had to respond....i just got a ball a couple of weeks ago.. also....omg...he is so amazing...of course we have kids and he is held most of the time...so he seems to be adjusting rather well...i noticed his most active time is in the evening ,after being snuggly warm all day.I am so excited about learning and being able to get other peoples input on caring for my snake...I CAN"T BELIEVE I FELL IN LOVE WITH A SNAKE! and cool on your gator....keep in touch....
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04/07/04 1:05pm
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#56062
Ali-woman
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 56044
 American Alligators
So is it okay to hand feed my alligator? I hand fed him yesterday and he ate the fish, When I get worms and crickets should I just throw them in the tank? In the water or the dry part? Temp in the tank on the warm side is only at 77 that is with thr right bulbs so not sure.
Alligator is only 8 inches long right now so can I feed mice? My ball is about 12 or 13 inches, stil a baby if he won’t eat a mouse, would a gerbil be better? Aren’t they bigger in size? What else can I feed the ball? P.S. Thanks soooo much for your input
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04/07/04 1:07pm
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#56065
Ali-woman
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Message To: Sunshine In reference to Message Id: 56058
American Alligators
Well from waht I noticed they are alll snakes, but each one has their own personality, Definitley hold him a lot. I know i feel the same way about snakes, can’t believe it either. now i just have to get used to my gator.
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04/07/04 1:10pm
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#56080
Ali-woman
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 56044
American Alligators
Hey Dusty where did u go??
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04/07/04 1:27pm
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#56089
Ali-woman
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Message To: Tegator In reference to Message Id: 56012
American Alligators
If a ball bites, how bad is it?? i have never been bitten, friend has when our old one was about 8 inches and it drew some blood then, how about when they are adult?? How bad?
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04/07/04 1:41pm
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#56480
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 55961
American Alligators
Assumption is the mother of all screwups lol yes VARIETY cant stress it enough in the wild baby gators eat crabs, insects small fish and rodents..... with mine when my male was younger I did small crabs from the petstore and crawfish, I didnt do goldfish I prefer minnows and rosies even to this day, chicken gizzards and pinkies OR small mice, some beef, abd crickets if he/she eats it give it the variety is good some things have more minerals that others lack. when he/she gets bigger I would recommend gerbils and hamsters over rats...they have more nutritional value then rats do....but alternate what you feed alwaysh ave steady food on hand for this first year and handle..youve been doing that keep it up!!! most dont or get intimidated sounds like your off to a good start!!!!
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04/08/04 6:46am
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#56812
Dusty
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 56480
American Alligators
Hey Ali, as far as hand feeding it’s up to you. You might change your mind over time if you get nipped with a big toothey (i’m really hungry). When you feed in the tank just chuck the food on land or around the gator in the water. Crickets float that’s why they’re good to start. Then once he gets used to catching food you can feed the frozen (thawed) pinkies the same way. The problem with hand feeding right now is just that he’s nervous and isn’t used to you so he’s only gonna eat a little (same with my little bugger). The more you do it the better he’ll become.As far as the ball > if it was wild caught then it naturally feeds on gerbils. They have a different smell and are often the fix to a non feeding ball python. Just feed a "hopper gerbil". You may have to breed your own... ...the other thing you can try is rubbing a hopper mouse on a gerbil then feeding... ...sometimes that works sometimes not. Often you need to feed the gerbil first. Sorry for the delay. Dusty
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04/08/04 7:42pm
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#56933
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 56812
American Alligators
Dusty......
First off it isnt nice to assume second off Im a Breeder I dont do "wild caught" I supply captive born and Bred...... therefor it ISNT wild caught any of mine nor my Burms.....anything that I sell comes from My own personal stock and my reputation is of a provider of healthy calm animals... Gerbils yes have a different smell do you not think I havent tried rubbin on rats?? Gerbils and hamsters have a Higher nutrition rate then Rats they are better for the snakes more meat a little more costly and you know in my feeding routines?? not ONCE have I had a problem....My Father raised reptiles I do as well and well my routine seems to work perfectly fine no deaths no vicous beasties soooo I suppose Im doing just fine
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04/08/04 11:37pm
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#56947
Dusty
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 56933
American Alligators
I’m really confused. Did you supply ali’s Ball? Or do you have mulitiple names on here? I work at a petstore. Very often imports are not capitive bred. I deal with the local breeders but that doesnt mean that the other stores around the world do. There’s a whole lot of assumption goin on that’s not all on my behalf...
...wild ball’s feed on gerbils. That’s why they dont eat mice. they smell different. Alot like how Suriname horned frogs often refuse mice and prefer live frogs... ...just the what they’re used to...P.S. Being that ali was unsure of the Alligator that she had purchased at a petstore wouldnt i be right thinking that that’s also where she got the ball?
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04/09/04 12:17am
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#56987
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 56947
American Alligators
No I didnt supply her Ball i DO breed them and Burms as well...Yes but it was made an assumption that MY Balls were wild and thats the only reason they ate the Gerbils..my Guys are captive born and those I supply to a local petsore are captive born and incubated... honestly DONT wean the ball of the gerbils or hamsters its BETTER for them more nutritional value Ali they have teeth but their bite (to me) isnt that bad Ive had worse form my monitors and my female Gator.. Balls arent naturally agressive are good beginners snake and have a tendency to be docile the Royal Python (addressed as the Ball Python) is known for itsn ame due to its habit of curling into a ball when nervous or scared.. RARELY do they bite I did have a female once that had a nasty temperment but Ive had couuntless of Balls and she was a rare exception...just keep it fed and handle it youll be fine. they are awesome and dont get nearly that large as for the weaning you know My guys know the difference and trying EVERYTHING still hasnt weaned him but seeing as how the gerbil is BETTER I prefer keeping them on em... the petstore -I- work for even agrees with me hell thats where I get mine anyway Ali it stings a bit but aint that bad... if your petstore cant give you the good information you need hunni read read read seems your petstore just...isnt worth the effort and guys from here out posts will be rare Im dealing with a lot on my plate but ill on occasion grace ya with my presence Bayou that means you oo hunni
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04/09/04 6:15am
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#57071
Ali-woman
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 56987
American Alligators
Okay so I went and was getting a new bulb for the lighting for the gator, nxt thing I knew it was 100 degrees in there, I switched back to a 75 watt, but I can’t get it any warmer than 73 dgrees. Now I should be using a night and a day bulb right? Just double checking? Give me some details if you would
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04/09/04 12:27pm
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#57194
Dusty
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Message To: Ali-woman In reference to Message Id: 57071
American Alligators
So what you’re saying is; you feed your balls, gerbils? SUPER! congradulations! Ali asked why HER’s wasn’t eating... ...not what YOU feed yours. Gerbils are more expesive and harder to obtain for feeding purposes. So, yes i assumed that she’s feeding mice... ...I’ve never had a ball refuse a gerbil so why would i think that she’s already feeding them ?!Please drop the additude you have with people on this board. They come here for help, not guff. If you have some input about a persons animal let them know don’t reme them out... ...Ali, IMO (for the gator) you should have a "hot spot" of about 90 or so and an average water temp of 78. I keep my ciaman at 80 for the water and a hot spot of 110. Obviously he can thermoregulate on his own and has room to move around the spot light so he’s not right in the middle where it’s 110 but occationaly he does sit right in the middle. Balls dont genrally bite from agression but occationaly will get you instead of the food if you’re feeding (frozen/thawed) by hand(so don’t use your hands for larger snakes).
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04/09/04 5:33pm
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#57195
Dusty
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 57194
American Alligators
Also, wouldn’t you think that because the ball is very shy (curls in to a ball and doesn’t move) would be a STRONG indication that it’s wild caught? In my experience captive raised/bred balls are "nice" and "personable"; would you not say the same Celic?
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04/09/04 5:36pm
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#57237
Bayou Beasts
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 57195
 American Alligators
First I think anybody saying just chuck it in the enclosure is just scared. I hand feed all of my Gators and will continue to do so. Some of you are confusing the Ball Python question with that of the Gator it was stated that she hand fed the Gator and it ate so it is not shy so read alittle better before you jump. As far as the Ball I would aggree it sounds like a WC and good luck I have had Balls that went off food for periods of 4-5 months and then started to eat again it is normal for this species and is nothing to worry about, not for a while anyway. If you are worried take it to the vet and have it checked(good idea for any animal from a petshop). I would hope you keep handleing your Gator and learn from it Maybe not today or tomorrow but you will adventually get a full on bite and it will hurt just remember that it will be something you did and not the animals fault. NO ANIMAL KNOWS HOW TO BE MEAN UNLESS IT IS TAUGHT The stuff they do is for self preservation. They will bite or scratch or tail whip because 1.)you scared them
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3.)it was hungry
all of the above reasons make it you fault. I see and hear all the time the term "TAME" trown around but everyone in this business or Hobby for any period of time can attest to the fact that they are all wild animals not TAME animals they are trained to act tame not TAME.
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04/09/04 7:34pm
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#57445
Dusty
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 57237
American Alligators
New animals need time to ajust so you "chuck" their food in the tank for the first little while so they can get used to you (I’ve been bit by far worse then a caiman). I "tamed" my Specticled caiman this way and now i can handle him, feed him outside the tank (he never eats as much outside), and let family and friends hold him. "Taming" is a process and obviously a new animal is goin to be scared and not want to eat. Get him used to the idea of you being there then work on feeding him by hand.This site is great for the subtle cuts that the "experienced breeders" like to take at thier fellow herpers. Try to have a open mind about the animals that you keep and the people who keep them. And remeber just because you’ve bred animals doesn’t me that the rest of us haven’t.
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04/10/04 12:03am
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#57446
Dusty
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 57237
American Alligators
New animals need time to ajust so you "chuck" their food in the tank for the first little while so they can get used to you (I’ve been bit by far worse then a caiman). I "tamed" my Specticled caiman this way and now i can handle him, feed him outside the tank (he never eats as much outside), and let family and friends hold him. "Taming" is a process and obviously a new animal is goin to be scared and not want to eat. Get him used to the idea of you being there then work on feeding him by hand.This site is great for the subtle cuts that the "experienced breeders" like to take at thier fellow herpers. Try to have a open mind about the animals that you keep and the people who keep them. And remeber just because you’ve bred animals doesn’t mean that the rest of us haven’t.
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04/10/04 12:04am
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#57475
Bayou Beasts
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 57446
 American Alligators
First off I never said anything about people not breeding. Second never once have I claimed to breed Gators. I also have had specs, browns, and Phillipine Crocs. I do know that others have had these animals and more will get these animals every day, however I have been bitten over 20 times all of which were my fault this comes with over 26 years of experience. Now as far as hand feeding I know all about the ajustment time BUT in my opinion if the food is as you said CHUCKED in the enclosure they will eat it I know but if they will eat from your hanmd what better way to get the message through that you are not there to hurt/eat them? I have hand fed all of mine from hatchling on up, I don’t know how big yours are but I have them from 12"(now) up to 8.5 feet and 300 poiunds so if hand feeding isn’t healthy then I want to know why mine are all like puppy dogs I take a shower with my 8.5 footer running free within 3 feet of my shower. GEE I keep forgeting about all the experts out there. I never claimed to be an expert nor will I ever I still get bit and in my opinion if I knew all there was to know then that would not happen. I am just offering opinions and that is all so if I offend you then that is for you to work out with your alter personality(this means it is not MY problem) Since you seem to know then take the time and write a care sheet so we can all share and benifit from your knowledge. I would love to see PICS of your Gators, Caiman, whatever. By the way are you sure you have a spec? or is that just how you bought it (as a spec). Post some pics I have posted several pics of my guys lets see some of you peoples so we know how good you take care of them(Meaning how well you theories are working)I know mine are great and everything I am doing keeps my guys happy and healthy.
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04/10/04 1:51am
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#57480
Bayou Beasts
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 57475
American Alligators
"New animals need time to ajust so you "chuck" their food in the tank for the first little while so they can get used to you "Now if you are hand feeding and as ALI stated theirs is eating from their hand is that not better for the animal to get used to you than just chucking the food in the tank and teaching it the hunting response? (I’ve been bit by far worse then a caiman). What? "I "tamed" my Specticled caiman" If you think you tamed it you are a fool(no offense) "Taming" is a process and obviously a new animal is going to be scared and not want to eat. Get him used to the idea of you being there then work on feeding him by hand. Sigfreid and Roy’s tiger was tame too right?
Everyone keeps arguing the tame thing they are by no means tame, get a clue. I rescued a tame caiman from a gentleman that left his friends hold the animal and he himself swore that it was puppy dog TAME well I got it because it bit 3 of his finger off, This is as tame as they get. Do you know how big and complex these animals brains are?(I am not saying they are incapable of thought just that they use there brain very primatively meaning it is based on survival of the fittest)
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04/10/04 2:22am
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#57488
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 57480
American Alligators
First off Ali knows I did NOT give her an attitude she also made reference to that point..second off I dont have an attitude with those of the board just the ones that are ignorant...third off dont like me? then dont respond it is as simple as that it takes two people to argue as for captive bred... Hello how DO you think the Royal Python began being referred to as the "Ball" python think on it...as for captive My guys might be social but they still curl into balls when they want to be Left alone and these are guys incubated and handled they have moods just like people..CHUCKING your food?? HAH! My Gators are fed by hand..and you know something they are used to it...the Gator and you have to build a trust factor the same with any animal keep in mind even if captive bred they are still reptiles...there is NO such thing as a "tame" reptile find one on a bad day....Ali if its WC and not eating it could mean internal parasites if you cant get it to eat anything period try NOT feeding it in the cage place it in a box with the food...if its a live Mouse rat or Gerbil then dont leave it in to long if the snake does get bit at times they withdraw from eating because of the experiance and the rodents have a tendency to gnaw a tail..... I would recommend a vet visit if anything just to get the snake checked out. Most pet stores do WC rather then CB and it poses problems. Ali your doing the right thing by handling your guys and by asking questions thats how we learn. And if your Pet store didnt offer advice then thats their screwup hopefully your vet will .......BTW Bayou Pyhton is a SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET HEART!!!!!
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04/10/04 3:27am
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#57742
Dusty
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 57488
American Alligators
According to dictionary.com, tame is:Brought from wildness into a domesticated or tractable state. Naturally unafraid; not timid: “The sea otter is gentle and relatively tame” (Peter Matthiessen). Submissive; docile; fawning: tame obedience. Insipid; flat: a tame Christmas party. Sluggish; languid; inactive: a tame river. I’m being very anal here but my point is, "is there really any "tame" animal by your standards of tame?". Even a tame dog is going to bite if provoked. Fact is my caiman (looks just like the greyish ones with your alligators in your 180, bayou) is tame, he trust me and i feed him by hand. At the begining of our "relationship" he was terrifed and bit everything that moved. I had to "chuck" food in the tank to get him used to eating in front of me, build an appitite, then get him to trust my hand. I was just saying to Ali to first start with the trust of her being there, then work on hand feeding. Anyway who cares; i’m sure ali’s happy cuz she’s got a few different oppinions now :) What does grunting mean? At night when the lights go out, and randomly throughout the day "boots" (cheesy i know) grunts... ...it that because he’s scared or just letting passerbys know there’s someting there? What do your big guys sound like?
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04/10/04 5:51pm
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#57996
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Dusty In reference to Message Id: 57742
American Alligators
Its called a stress call
"Mama mama" is what it boils down too in the wild Gators will stay with their mother up to two years depending...coinciding until they move on..the grunting is them calling for Mama... My guys do it My Male especially will sometimes get startled and call of course It could also serve as a mating call Im sure depends on the animal at that point in time *shrugs*
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04/11/04 6:46am
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#58412
Bayou Beasts
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 57996
American Alligators
My younger ones under 5-6 foot still do the baby call but when my big guy wants to let me know he is there he bellows and rumbles my entire house no lie. As far as why Celtic hit the nail on the head as far as stress but they also seem to do it as if to say"I am here and alone a little attention please".
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04/11/04 6:06pm
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#58418
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 58412
American Alligators
*Scoffs in disbelief* Of course Im right Im a woman! hehe Teasing yeah that has a point and in time the gators associate you with food and protection so in a way your Mama or in your case daddy Prometheus does it often Pandora is just a little snot but shes finalyl coem out of her grump and becoming more social.... thankfully If anything from going from Anti social wanting to bite to hold me love me...Of course what can I say? I love my reptiles
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04/11/04 6:17pm
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#66016
Gatalilros6
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Message To: I_love_gators In reference to Message Id: 45977
American Alligators
how much was your alligator? and where can you purchase one?
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04/26/04 7:26pm
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#71232
Zenn
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Message To: Gatalilros6 In reference to Message Id: 66016
American Alligators
Can American Alligators be tame even when they are fully grown? Isn’t it dangerous incase one turns on you? I have no idea about this subject but am really interested. Could you please get back to me ASAP! Thanks, Jon.
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05/09/04 9:47am
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#71381
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Zenn In reference to Message Id: 71232
American Alligators
Boooooooooooy someone doesn’t read previous posts do they?? we discussed this topic in Gator buying 101 anyway again a repeat of the answers.... No you cannot Fully tame a Gator..they are primitive beasts with small brains...you can however subdue them to a point of "trust"but EVERYONE gets bit...as Bayou pointed out look at Sigfried and Roys tiger...and it was "tame"and it mauled its owner. you have to keep in mind being primitive they have primitive urges. can it be dangerous when they are older?? Its dangerous when they are little....a 13inch species of a crocidillian has enough jaw pressure to snap off a finger and thirteen inches is a BABY..... Yeah they can be dangerous they are to be respected but to many idiots like to own them because they are "cool" and dont realize the problems they incur with the ownership of a Crocodilian.Would I ever give my guys up?? Never...but they arent for the inexperianced reptile handler nuff said you will get bit it will hurt and gloves will do little to cease that...grin and bear it.....
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05/09/04 4:55pm
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#71383
CelticTigeress
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 71381
American Alligators
Also might I point out
A dog....can bite its owner a cat can scratch...Pitbulls are considered just as unpredictable and have bad reps....as do Rottweilers. Gators have the reputation of being vicious Nasty monsters.... they are only surviving and more people are mauled by domesticated household pet dogs......as well as Horses then all the alligator incidents combined.....so...I think Ill keep my Gators
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05/09/04 4:58pm
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#72315
Jade2u
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 71381
American Alligators
13 inches, can take a finger. Really? Funny, I have been bitten by two footers and larger and the only ill effects are the puncturing teeth marks and bruising. I understand the fact that you do not want uneducated irresponsible people to get their hands on these creatures for obvious reason, but you are making them out to be complete monsters. I do shows to help better educate people of all ages on all reptiles and it is people like you that "undoes" the truths I try to replace the fears with. I have noticed that every time someone asks for information you do nothing but talk down to them. How did you get educated? Had to ask questions and do research didn’t you? That’s what I thought. The same as everyone else. Be glad people are asking for info, the more education, the better. No, you can’t tame a gator, yes everyone gets bitten usually more than once. But if someone does the research and are well educated about crocodilians, don’t you think that it is their decision whether or not they want the gator and want to accept consequences? You come across like you don’t think anyone else should owns crocodilians. There are some people out there that are genuine future crocodilian keepers that deserve a little more respect. If you are so gungho about keeping crocodilians and are genuinely concerned, why don’t you direct people to acquire them from rescues or rehabilitators? I know that’s what I urge people to do with other herps. I never post on here, because this is exactly what I don’t like doing. This isn’t what the forums are for. But the forums are also NOT for belittling people.
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05/11/04 6:30pm
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#73888
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Jade2u In reference to Message Id: 72315
American Alligators
"People like me" Please dont toss me into stereotyped classifcations.... second off...then instead of wanting to do it via message board send me a message..in the words fo Forest Gump thats All I have to say about that
As for the rest of you If Ive come out to be a complete and utter b**ch then I appologize wholeheartedly usually I type and dont realize how the typing comes across it isnt my intentions at all I havent been able to post with packing and getting ready to go out of town..... so if any have been offended by my Rude mannurisms then please know it wasnt intetional and I thank you for not coming out and lecturing or whining or snapping at me...and for rather taking it with a grain of salt.... ill try to proofread more in the Future
Celtic
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05/15/04 5:19pm
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#74263
Jade2u
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 73888
American Alligators
First off, that wasn’t snapping. It was observation. And if you don’t like a truthful observation, sorry don’t know what to tell you. I was just simply in short saying that the reason that this forum doesn’t get more usage is because of the way people are being responded to. No, no messages, it needed to be dealt with on the forum where it’s happening. So, I am sorry if it sounded like a lecture because that is not what it was meant to be. Just addressing a problem. On the flip side, it was nice of you to apologize to everyone. So, thanks because that’s all I was trying to get out of that post.
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05/16/04 4:38pm
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#79345
Aussie dave
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Message To: Jade2u In reference to Message Id: 74263
American Alligators
Does any one own a fully grown gator? All of the pictures that are on this forum seem to be of juvinieles. I would love to see some pics of the big ones. Thanks.
Dave.
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05/29/04 7:16am
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#79613
Bayou Beasts
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Message To: Aussie In reference to Message Id: 79345
American Alligators
Look on some of the other threads I posted PICs of my 8.5 footer.
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05/29/04 8:53pm
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#79787
CelticTigeress
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Message To: Bayou In reference to Message Id: 79613
American Alligators
Careful Bayouyou know they arent "Aussie Crocodiles" they arent 15 feet with a voracious Nature...they are like a "Childs pet" heh wait what else was said Yeah I know Im a brat :-P anywho just touching base with my fav forum thats all
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05/30/04 12:57pm
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#81051
Aussie dave
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Message To: CelticTigeress In reference to Message Id: 79787
American Alligators
Ease up there Celtic Tigeress. I was just trying to contribute to the forum I have nothing against Alligators, I think there unreal. If you read my apology on my post I said that I hoped that there was no hard feelings about my contridicting you.
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06/02/04 1:50am
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#81948
Manfred
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Message To: I_love_gators In reference to Message Id: 45977
American Alligators
Hi, I just bought a 3 foot american alligator last night. Here is a pic of him.
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06/04/04 7:05am
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#82311
Jade2u
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Message To: Manfred In reference to Message Id: 81948
American Alligators
Oh, he’s cute. He looks like a bad boy! Looks like you have a nice setup. Let’s see more pics.
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06/04/04 11:49pm
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#83945
Manfred
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Message To: Jade2u In reference to Message Id: 82311
American Alligators
Hey...heres some more pics of Mikey my 3 foot American alligator. These pics were taken by the previous owner so he has grown a bit since these pics were taken. I bought the enclosure with him as well, its about 8 feet long and 5 feet wide...its really nice.
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06/08/04 7:19pm
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#84266
Catlover
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Message To: I_love_gators In reference to Message Id: 45977
American Alligators
is he big now
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06/09/04 1:01pm
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#84443
Manfred
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Message To: Catlover In reference to Message Id: 84266
American Alligators
Mikey is about 3 feet now...If you wanna see more pics of my reptiles and other animals you can check out my site..http://www.msnusers.com/ManfredsAnimals/pictures..you can also join it and post pics of you animals too.
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06/09/04 7:47pm
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#172008
Bush_viper87
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Message To: Manfred In reference to Message Id: 84443
American Alligators
cool
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10/29/04 2:13pm
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