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 #1649087


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 Calling all Vegitarians

hey every one i was wondering who out there has cut meat out of there diet i have for 11 months now i want to no how long and why and maybe for all those aniaml eater a little reason why u should keep pork off your fork.

my name is tara. ive been a vege girl for 11 monthes i became a veg because it s what s right.

top ten reasons why you should become a veg

#1 meat is bloody
#2meat is full of fat!
#3 because animals have rights too
#4because u eat 100aniamls a year.But becoming a veg u ll save 100 animals a year
#5 even tho there dead it doesn t make it right to eat them
#6because u shouldn t have to lie to ur self about the food u eat
#7because the scream and die alone
#8 because there given drugs to make them grow fast
#9because the suvire
#10 ARE YOUR TASTE BUDS MORE INPORTANT THEN THERE LIVES!!

visit www.peta .com (no spaces)

thx animal lover

( #11 because it s up to u)
03/05/08  02:52pm

 #1654115


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 Calling all Vegitarians

I am and have been all my life, my mum has been since she was like 13 so she just raised me and my bro the same. I agree with it but it does not bother me if others eat it i just disagree with needless cruelty like fur but feeder rodents i believe are okay.
03/09/08  03:40pm

 #1654351


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   Message To: H8er4eva   In reference to Message Id: 1654115


 Calling all Vegitarians

yeah becuase their system is made totally different
03/09/08  06:31pm

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 Calling all Vegitarians

While I totally respect your decision to be a vegetarian, I personally could not do it. I do like meat and I actually do not like salads/veggies. Please don’t come back at me saying I am wrong, etc-I am just stating my opinion. I feel there is nothing wrong with the decision to either be a vegetarian or not-it is everyone’s decision. I do not eat just any meat though-I am picky about what I eat, I won’t eat at KFC because of what I heard and I like meat/veggies for my bunny that are free range, chemical free, and organic. I do not wear fur though and would not wear it even if it was given to me. I think Peta does good in it’s defense for animals but I do think sometimes they take it too far. A friend of mine has a friend that use to have a pet store, a very nice pet store may I add, well he use to sell dogs in the pet store (he stopped since he felt it was wrong since there are so many homeless pets out there), and shortly after he stopped selling dogs, a lady brought back a sick dog that she had for a couple of months already, well he was not there (the store was closed for the night) and she just left it in front of the store in a crate, he found the dog when he got there in the morning (still alive), he took it inside and immediately got his vet on the phone, the vet said he would be there in an hour or two but in the meantime someone had called the authorities because there was a dog outside the store and he now has criminal charges pending because the lady said she told him she was bringing the dog back and he was not there, he said he told her to bring him the next day because the lady did not tell him the dog was sick only that she could not afford to take care of him, to make a long story short, Peta found out about it and because they picketed him, sent threatening letters, etc, he actually closed his pet store, is losing his house, and may lose his freedom-Peta is trying to get charges for animal cruelty brought against him. The lady is also a member of Peta. I know Peta is protecting animals and they are going on what they believe is correct info but I know 100% that this man had a wonderful pet store and truly cares and loves all animals and would not sell a sick or injured animal. He had a personal vet on stand by in case an animal got sick or if he rcvd it sick, he educated people on how to care for their new animal and believe it or not he would sell an animal to a person if they did not have the correct set up at home or could not afford to buy the correct set up! I was truly amazed but he had a successful pet store until this lady ruined his life. Sorry to ramble but I just wanted to share this story.
Angel



03/10/08  10:25am

 #1655248


N2t
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   Message To: Angelkitty   In reference to Message Id: 1655212


 Calling all Vegitarians

Sorry am a meat eater here. Um...not to be arguementative but, some things are a bit questionable.
1. Meat is bloody. And? Plants have chemicals to carry nutrients and oxogen too, idk what green vs red has to do with anything.
2. Meat if full of fat! So are avocados. You need some fat in your diet, exercise and don’t live a sedentary lifestyle and fat excess fat won’t be an issue.
3 because animals have rights too. Idk about rights, I mean..what the right to free speach? I understand they are valuable and need to be treated with respect, but so do plants. Life is important, all life, plant and animal, you really can’t say one is more important than the other.
4 we eat 100 animals a year. That’s really not that many, I don’t think we save that many eating just veggies. How many animals are killed to protect crops? How many gophers, insects, birds? Or is it because we don’t eat them it doesn’t matter? How many species die to make room for farms for these veggies, how many wetlands drained? How many pesticides sprayed? Idk about the logic on this one.
5 why is it not right to eat them? They are nutritionaly viable, contain amino acid groups we need to survive, if one holds plants and animals of the same value to our ecosystem, I don’t see a moral delema here.
6 shouldn’t lie to ourselves. Idk anyone who is lieing to themselves. Many people hunt or farm, or fish, they know where the animals come from. I don’t understand where lieing comes in.
7 because they scream and die alone. Well this is a whole diff issue. I agree that some of the big buisness practices are bad in their treatment of animals that’s why I hunt as much as I can. Fortunately there are places watching over this type of stuff, and when it’s discovered it’s taken care of. The fact remains however that to eat, something must die. Holding plants to a lower value than animals accomplishes nothing.
8 given drugs to make them grow fast. Well first..there is organic, second their is wild game so this is not universal. Also...almost all the wheat you eat is geneticly cloned. Many of the plants used, yellow corn, soy beans, wheat are altered to be resistant to fungus etc. In the end it’s much the same.
9because they suvire. Idk what you mean here so I can’t say.
10. are your taste buds more important that [their] lives. To some degree, yes. As I said, eating is needed, most diets will require that something be killed.

Now honestly I didn’t start this post to start a war. Being veggie is fine. However to claim others are moraly lacking isn’t. Animal and plant diversity are very important. Both need to be propperly respected. Farming has a negative impact on the environ in many ways, cows, antibiotics, methain, loss of land and resources, but so does the farming of plants. Pesticides, cloning, herbicides, fungicides, the killing of "pest" animals. Also as far as diet, one needs to be aware that it’s hard to get complete amino acid chains with an all veg diet. Beans and rice are the easiest way, but that’s a very limited menu. Also soy contains alot of estrogen, not good for men over many years in large amounts. The fact is their are healthy ways to live, organic/free range beef chicken and pork, fishing and hunting, organic veggies, green coffee. But to turn a blind eye on the impact of plant farming on the environ is very one sided (rice patties, coffee plantations etc) better to understand as much as you can and make your choices that way. As far as hunting, the money from hunting licences and other fees have done alot to preserve wetlands in the US, withouth hunters they would have been drained for farm or pasture. In africa one rhino species has been brought from 250 up to around 25000 based exclusivly on feas from hunters and is one of the biggest conservation successes ever. It’s being tried to save the other species (forgive me I am not sure which is saved and which is being saved of the black and white rhinos) and with elephants as well. Not eating meat is a fine choice, but some of us meat eaters are also environmentaly aware as well. Every hunted animal takes money away from big farms, every liscence bought supports the keeping of wild habitats. On a personal note I bike to work all summer to avoid gas usage, use rechargable batteries to avoid lead deposits, and use cast iron cookware to avoid the toxic fumes produced by tephlon/nonstick. And lastly just because I feel the need to pass on info, eggs and milk are not bad in any way, especialy if it’s free range.
03/10/08  11:10am

 #1655452


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   Message To: N2t   In reference to Message Id: 1655248


 Calling all Vegitarians

meat is reall y bad for you though..it can cause heart dease and heart failer and cancer.

i know something peta has it s was of taking things to far.
and i sorry if u disagree . i would start to tell u right now how wrong u are but i don t have enough time
03/10/08  02:45pm

 #1655538


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1655452


 Calling all Vegitarians

I spent two years working in an alternative healthfood store, 10 years in fitness and nutrition, and much of my life living with people instructed in alternative medacine and wholistic healing. Peta is a terrorist group devoted to removal of animals as "pets", I’ve also had peta members attempt to poison my dog because it’s a breed they dislike. Meat isn’t bad for you, and cancer can be caused just as easily by the pesticides used in farming. Meat also doesn’t cause heart failure, impopper diet follwed by a basicly sedentary lifestyle combined with heredity can put one at a higher risk of heart failure/disease. I think perhaps more research and less propiganda is needed. Many vegetarians I know has been fine as lacto/ovo vegetarians as apposed to a stricly vegetarian diet, some also include fish. I’m sorry but I am not wrong, this is just the way it is. Vegetarianism isn’t more moral, it’s not healthier, and it’s not better, it’s just another choice. Overeating and lack of exercise are the major issues, a healthy diet and exercise regimen is far more important than cutting meat out of your diet or going atkins and cutting carbs. Both flip sides to the same coin, neither are cure alls for poor nutrition and a sedentary lifestyle.
03/10/08  04:10pm

 #1655653


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   Message To: N2t   In reference to Message Id: 1655538


 Calling all Vegitarians

don t go around about peta when you don t know about it.
and vegetarains are shown to live longer them meat eaters. and what your trying to tell me is that your right and i m wrong period! have you ever seen the way those aniamals are treated!! and also what kind of dog is it




03/10/08  05:26pm

 #1656158


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1655653


 Calling all Vegitarians

I do know quite a bit about peta. They have been very active in trying to deny people the right to keep any form of captive animal, reptiles, inverts, dogs, cats, birds, as well as farm animals. They are in court for their own cruelty to animals acts regularly, don’t support non kill shelters, and activly seek to poison pitbulls as they feel people shouldn’t have them. My dog was a pitbull lab mix, one of the least likely dogs to bite statisticly there is, he was fenced and leashed in my yard, they trespassed and attempted to poison it using hamburger soaked with anti freeze. I have seen the way some people treat animals, but the fact is all life is important, have you seen the effects of coffee plantations, wheat fields, soy fields, and rice patties on the environment? How about herbacides, fungacides, and pesticides? I’m giving an alternative view which you refuse to even consider. As I said I never said you were "wrong" I simply said that it’s an alternative form of diet, not a better/more moral form. It is very possable to include milk, cheese and eggs in ones diet and still be echo friendly. None of those items requires one to be cruel or inhumane to any animal, yet adds items to the diet which contain valuable nutrients like calcium, fats, lipids and amino acids. I’ve not been rude, said your choice is wrong, or called into question your morality, I’ve simply put forth an alternative view.
03/10/08  09:10pm

 #1656973


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   Message To: N2t   In reference to Message Id: 1656158


 Calling all Vegitarians

i do think that that whole pitbull thing is mean as ever..but it s not just peta that helped me with this live chose it was for whats right for the animals! they are treated with buttmunch before being badly killed! i mean wft
03/11/08  02:42pm

 #1657574


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1656973


 Calling all Vegitarians

I agree large industries to tend to treat the animals poorly. Most of the meat I use is hunted or localy farm raised. Small farmers don’t make money selling sick/emaciated cattle, they make money of fat healthy animals. Here in montana most beef is considered free range, they are not fenced in or if they are they have hundereds of acres. Either way ones choice to eat meat or not can hinge on many factors, health concerns with to much red meat or to many antibodiotic/hormones may make one refuse to eat red meat, the deletion of our oceans may make one not wish to eat fish/seafood. Cruelty to animals may cut out fowl, red meat, and pork, and maybe even eggs, milk, and cheese. By the same token, clear cutting of natural habitat, harmfull pesticides and chemicals etc could be cause for one to swear off many crop items, yellow corn, rice, soy, wheat and coffee to name a few. Lets not forget the leather and wool as well. Choosing to be vegetarian is fine if it’s what you want to do. However the reasons become complicated, is it based on cruelty to animals? And if so, what type because by purchasing many forms of crops you are also supporting animal cruelty. It’s not a simple meat eaters are bad, vegetarians are good. It’s a matter of understanding ones impact on the environment as a whole, biking vs driving, car pools, what type of food you buy or don’t buy both animal and plant. Even hunting and fishing on can use to support the environment and animals in it. Hunting and fishing liscences are used to fund the habitats these animals live in, to keep the wetlands presurved, also awareness of invasive species, the european starling and english sparrow which are depleting native songbird populations. DDT is a thing of the past, but there are many pesticides being used today to protect crops that are just as bad or worse. I’m just saying it’s a much, much larger picture than eating meat=bad.
03/11/08  09:14pm

 #1658042


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   Message To: N2t   In reference to Message Id: 1657574


 Calling all Vegitarians

I look at it this way-everything in moderation. If you eat too much candy (which is not meat) then you get overweight, have heart problems, get diabetes, have asthma - all of which can kill you. Here’s an interesting fact about carrots-if you eat too many you can turn orange-just thought I’d throw that in cause I thought it was a cool fact! I agree that Peta can go too far in the protection of animals and I also agree that a lot of animals are treated wrongly. Everyone has their own opinion about if eating meat is right or wrong but we can not say that one is right and the other is wrong. I do enjoy meat but I do so in moderation-especially red meat.
Angel



03/12/08  10:00am

 #1658287


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   Message To: Angelkitty   In reference to Message Id: 1658042


 Calling all Vegitarians

in a way i feel that it s not a 3 rd world country and we really do not need this.. i m plannin o becoming of vegan after being a vegeatian for 5 years(it almost been 1)
i do beilve that fishing hunting and fox skinning in not needed because like i said it not a third world country and we do not need this stuff.
03/12/08  02:39pm

 #1658315


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1658287


 Calling all Vegitarians

What is the difference between being a vegetarian and a vegan? I truly do not know. I don’t like the fox, etc skinning, I do not like to hunt-I PERSONALLY could not kill anything (but yes I will eat meat after the fact as long as it does not look anything like the actual animal-example: pig roast, lobster, etc), I use to fish when I was younger but I did not keep anything-it was released. I do not fish any longer cause I can’t stand bugs and there are normally a lot around when you are fishing. Like I said-to each his or her own.
Angel



03/12/08  03:18pm

 #1658355


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   Message To: Angelkitty   In reference to Message Id: 1658315


 Calling all Vegitarians

vegeatarians don t eat meat vegans don t eat dairy eggs or meat
03/12/08  04:05pm

 #1658906


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1658355


 Calling all Vegitarians

actualy that is wrong vegetarians do not eat meat, eggs, fish, or dairy. Now off vegetarianism you have lacto vegetarians who will drink milk and eat cheese, ovo vegetarians who eat eggs, lacto ovo who eat eggs and cheese both. Now then you have vegans, mostly the diff is a vegan will eat a strict vegetarian diet. No eggs, dairy, fish etc. This will also not wear animal products, leather, wool (with some accepting this as not being harmfull, however this is still highly discouraged), fur trim etc. Some vegans will even go so far as to not eat plants grown in animal based fertalizers, these individuals tend to only eat strict organic foods that are herbacide and pesticide free etc.
On a side note, hunting can actualy help the environment. I understand if a person doesn’t want to hunt, that’s great and good, more power to them. But again, it’s a choice and it can and does greatly help the environment. Our wetlands were being destroyed, and really still are, however ducks unlimited puts portions of the money obtained through waterfowl hunting toward the upkeep and preservation of these lands, also many of our forested areas are partialy or wholey payed for by hunting fees, as well as lakes, streams etc cleanup and maintinance being payed for by fishing liscenses. In africa many species of animal are a "pest" to the locals, having only value in their deaths, or their ivory, elephants can whipe out a villages crops, their ivory is worth money and they are killed, same with big cats, same with rhino. By allowing the hunting of these species they are given value, the rhino in africa (I forget black or white) is at it’s highest numbers in two decades since it was put back on the hunting lists, the largest populations of these animals are in private ownership on hunting reserves, a very specified number are allowed to be hunted (reserves are many many miles and these are wild animals) the procedes from these animals goes toward the preservation of them, and the meat is given to feed families of nearby villages, hunters keep the trophy, sounds bad but it’s even more money payed toward animal preservation in import fees and it’s better than letting any of the animal go to waste. It’s another hobby that is enjoyed by many, and while not everyone wants to partake in the activity again that doesn’t make it wrong or bad, just another persons choice and right. After all every penny into the environment is money well spent and while good intentions go a long way, cold hard cash put out year after year by thousands of people goes further. I pay on ave of 150 dollars a year for hunting and fishing liscensure. Add in a few more tags, and a few thousand more people and that number becomes segnificant. Do away with hunters and I can bet that you’ll lose at least 50% of current habitat areas in the next ten years to development. Just food for thought, and it’s meat free.
03/12/08  10:02pm

 #1659496


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   Message To: N2t   In reference to Message Id: 1658906


 Calling all Vegitarians

all right what ever..hey does anyone here beleive that thw orlds gonna end in 2012 i think it will
03/13/08  02:42pm

 #1663506


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 Calling all Vegitarians

Just saw this thread and thought i would throw this in. The deer have become such a problem here in my part of missouri they are trying to legalize bow hunting deer in town. Could be fun.

ryan



03/16/08  07:03pm

 #1663711


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   Message To: Rsharp87   In reference to Message Id: 1663506


 Calling all Vegitarians

wow! thats mean! that like killing a bunch of people just because there are to many (in mitch case there are ) it like attack of the deer!



03/16/08  08:41pm

 #1673640


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 Calling all Vegitarians

so any one else a vege girl/boy .

and this isn t calling any people who wants to call down my beliveves
03/24/08  08:03am

 #1674221


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1649087


 Calling all Vegitarians

I am a vegetarian, too. Humans don’t need to eat meat... and they ESPECIALLY don’t need factory farming (don’t know what this is? You’re stupid). Vegetarianism is the right way to live, especially if you are claiming you "love animals."



03/24/08  06:05pm

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   Message To: Ericalaurend   In reference to Message Id: 1674221


 Calling all Vegitarians

thank you! i mean u don t need it.. it s not a 3 rd world counrty and your taste buds shouldn t be as important as the animals lives!
03/25/08  04:54pm

 #1680257


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 Calling all Vegitarians

also do you guys think the seal hunt is wrong?? i do!
03/29/08  07:00am

 #1705160


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 Calling all Vegitarians

ummm, I don’t think your reasoning is very sound. Would you starve a lizard of the live food it needed to eat? Do you feed your toads live food? They don’t even get the liberty to die BEFORE they are eaten. Humans are meant to eat meat. We need protein to live, yes, there are vegetable proteins, but... you still need fats and such to be entirely healthy. I respect your right to be a vegetarian, and I commend you for changing your lifestyle and sticking to it, but do you really have any right to try to guilt people into becoming a vegetarian, making it sound like if they eat meat they hate animals? Or that they are cruel? There is a food chain and every animal on earth is a part of it, be they mammal, reptile, fish, bird, amphibian, or bug. Eventually something is even going to eat YOU. When your body dies, it is going to be food for worms, and other bugs, which are going to feed other animals that are going to feed other animals that are going to feed other animals, do you get my drift? Like I said, I respect and commend your decision, but not your pushiness. Also, it is your opinion that being a vegetarian is what is right, but that doesn’t make it so for everyone, just for you personally. As for saving those 100 animals, I’m sorry, but they are going to kill them anyway and that meat is just going to go to waste because you aren’t eating it. They throw away tons of meat a year that goes bad on shelves, yet they still continue to produce meat products at the same rate. Ok, number 6... what lie exactly am I telling myself by eating meat? number 8 can be avoided by buying meat that is hormone free and boycotting companies that produce those animals that are pumped full of them. I don’t even understand number 9 (please take a bit of time to proof read your posts for spelling and grammar so we can all understand the point you are trying to get across, there is even a spellchecker right below the text field) As for number ten, no, my tastebuds are not more important that an animals life, but my quality of life would be very poor if I did not enjoy the foods that I ate, that said, animals used as feeders (not included those inhumanely raised in the dark and pumped full of steroids) are completely provided for and taken care of until they are killed, that is the way they give back for the care they receive. Take chickens for example, they are fed, kept safe and warm, and then when the time comes, they are killed for our food. These chickens led a safe, warm life where they didn’t have to worry about predators. Anyway, I am done, and I hope I haven’t offended you, but you cannot go forcing your opinion on people as fact. What is right for you is not right for everyone, and what is right for me is not for everyone. I just think you need to learn to distinguish between fact and opinion.

OK, now after reading the entire thread, I hate to say (sorry to be rude) that I don’t like you very much, because you are confusing OPINIONS for FACTS and half of the things you say don’t make any sense. What does America not being a 3rd world country have to do with anything? I most 3rd world countries people are more likely to be eating a nearly vegetarian diet due to not being able to afford meat. Now as for the deer thing, which is the post I am replying to... Deer eat the crops (PLANTS) that are being grown for people to eat. Are the deer more important than people? Would you starve a child to feed a deer? Also consider the many weeds that take over other plants and kill them. Do you believe it is wrong to kill these weeds? I bet not. Consider kudzu, it is a vine that was imported to America as a garden plant as has taken over areas of the South to the point that it has killed areas acres wide of trees and ALL other vegetation. This is, in a way, like the deer problem that was mentioned. And no, it is not the same as killing people because there are too many, and that comment, that there are too many people is PROPAGANDA. And that is all I am going to say, because I don’t want to start a bigger argument. There are too many people in some AREAS of the world, but there are not too many people in it. There are huge areas of the world that are livable that are uninhabited. This is a pointless argument that you started Just to start and to force your views on others. You vegetarianism is NOT WRONG, but some of what you are quoting as fact is, or is at least misinformed. There is so much more I could say on this, but I think that there is someone else that has been doing a fine job.

Oh and btw, if so many people think that there are too many people in the world, why aren’t they volunteering to take themselves out of it? Is it because they are more important than people who don’t think so? Who exactly do they think should die to make more room? And make more room for what? Even if half the people on Earth were to die, they would just make more people, EXPONENTIALLY. Please, use a little common sense. And learn how to spell and use proper grammar, it makes your arguments appear ignorant and pointless, even if you should decide to make a good point.



04/16/08  05:56am

 #1705163


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   Message To: Froggsong   In reference to Message Id: 1705160


 Calling all Vegitarians

ALSO, WHAT does this have to do with amphibians?
04/16/08  05:57am

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   Message To: Froggsong   In reference to Message Id: 1705163


 Calling all Vegitarians

This has nothing to do with amphibians i was just wondering,you must remember that aniamls are living things and there for should have some rights, animals where here first, and even if this "god" says to eat meat he is a meth any ways, come on making the world in 7 days! that bull.
DEar have just has many rights has us, e there where probable here first so realy it was us who took what was theres.

I don t kill weeds there is really no need, infact i think that weeds had spice to my lawn.Please don t call me down, because i don t really give a rats what u say.
And froggsong, hate u too



04/16/08  02:47pm

 #1706503


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   Message To: Animal lover!   In reference to Message Id: 1705520


 Calling all Vegitarians

Just because you do not believe in God does not mean other people do not (I am a Christian-a TRUE Christian not a hypocrite who says they are one and then does not act like one) so please do not bash my God just because you do not believe. Sorry to sound a little harsh but I take great pride in my faith. Plus I would never say anything negative about someones beliefs-I know you were not talking to me but I felt inclined to post. I have had far too many miracles happen to me and around me not to believe-I was healed, not remission, but healed of cancer 7 years ago at church and the doctors to this day can not explain how it happened-they said it had to be a miracle.
Angel



04/17/08  10:18am

 #1706506


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   Message To: Angelkitty   In reference to Message Id: 1706503


 Calling all Vegitarians

Oh and I know no religious talk so I am finished. Oh-animal lover-pm me about the fruit flies.
Angel



04/17/08  10:20am

 #1706529


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   Message To: Angelkitty   In reference to Message Id: 1706506


 Calling all Vegetarians

I been a vegetarian since I was a little kid. Going on 20 years. For me it just a personal choose. Just watch a video how animals where treated. Don’t see anything wrong with what ever anyone chooses. Its kinda good if people do eat meat. Makes the animals not die in vain. Say if 50% of America stopped eating meat that wouldn’t mean 50% of the animals wouldn’t still be killed they would just be shipped out of the country. Its big business’s it always will be there production lines will always be going. Does it kinda suck well ya.

I have ate some meat in that time frame. I do a lot of rescue work in disaster areas for long periods of time so sometimes I have to eat it. Even if you eat all organic there still is a chance for it to cause cancer.(everything seems to cause cancer says California) I wouldn’t try to force my views on anyone. To each is there own...... For the rest of the stuff steadied on this thread I am not even going to try to respond :)


Craig
04/17/08  10:46am

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 Calling all Vegetarians

wow anglekitty that pretty lucky.
Sorry to bring up that i don t beleive in god, my life is crap and i m gonna go to hell i m know.
04/17/08  05:25pm
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