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 #1469562


Froggymadnes
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 Good or bad idea?

I am thinking about buying a male yellow.

I am thirteen with 5 years or so experience with herps, 3 with snakes, and 0 with boas.
I currently own: 1.0 crested geckos
1.2 corn snakes
3 unknown fire bellied toads
1.1 dogs
1.2 cats
soon to be a turtle.

The only herp I have ever had die was a ball python, which, unfortunately, caught a respiratory infection and died before I could do anything to help him.

Things I (think) I know about yellows:
males get 6 1/2-9 feet
females larger (not planning on getting a female though)
they are boas (obviously)
they eat many things, but the cheapest food source for most is rats (pre-killed)
They are often fiesty as babies, but can settle down throughout time through gentle daily handling
they are gorgeous!

Things I need (or should) know about yellow:
What size cage would work the best (space is not an issue)
Any other info you think I should know

Things YOU should know about me:
I dream of becoming a herpetologist/middle school science teacher. Right now I settle for being a herpetoculturist/student
I recieve REPTILES magazine monthly
I have loved herps basically all my life (For my fourth or fifth birthday, we hired the "snake man" come to out house! He displayed burms, snappers, iguanas, and more)

What do you want to know about me?



10/06/07  04:40pm

 #1469580


Mleadley
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1469562


 Good or bad idea?

An anaconda isnt really a lodgical step after a corn snake, they can be agressive, and its not just the length its the girth, they get really heavy, i would go with a boa, then c if your ready
10/06/07  05:05pm

 #1469633


Nelson jacobson
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   Message To: Mleadley   In reference to Message Id: 1469580


 Good or bad idea?

bad



10/06/07  05:43pm

 #1469649


Froggymadnes
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   Message To: Nelson jacobson   In reference to Message Id: 1469633


 Good or bad idea?

I also have a 16 year old brother that would be willing to help me with such a large animal. I am aware of the requirements of these awesome animals, and think that I would do well. I did not mean to say that I intended to get one now. It would be at least another year, more likely a year and a half.
10/06/07  06:03pm

 #1469697


Mleadley
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1469649


 Good or bad idea?

Yes even in a year and a half your still going to have no better experience with just corns, an anaconda should be bought with experience and corns dont cut it, like i said before a boa would be a good step they grow near the size of a male yellow and have a decent girth
10/06/07  07:02pm

 #1469745


Froggymadnes
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   Message To: Mleadley   In reference to Message Id: 1469697


 Good or bad idea?

Okay I’ll think about a male boa. I love brazilian rainbows, or would you reccomend a red tail?
10/06/07  07:54pm

 #1470131


Mleadley
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1469745


 Good or bad idea?

Thats up to you, i think redtails get bigger but brazilians are beautiful, down to you
10/07/07  05:02am

 #1470834


Nelson jacobson
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   Message To: Mleadley   In reference to Message Id: 1470131


 Good or bad idea?

red tails get alot bigger.



10/07/07  08:55pm

 #1470876


GoodNPlenty
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   Message To: Nelson jacobson   In reference to Message Id: 1470834


 Good or bad idea?

If your goal is to move into Condas at some point best bet is RTB

~GNP
10/07/07  09:17pm

 #1470994


Anaconda_seeker
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   Message To: GoodNPlenty   In reference to Message Id: 1470876


 Good or bad idea?

well i m going to put my 2 cents in

if you want a anaconda then get one .... i have seen several mean burmese pythons , redtails , african rock pythons and so on . now on the other note i have seen a whole lot of mean anacondas but i have collected several semi-tame anacondas over the years...

if you are wanting to go straight to anacondas get a captive bred baby .... dont get nothing wild caught as it will just add to the learning curve . if you purchase one and it is agressive that is fine , it will be small and the bites arent too bad and handled daily it should tame down in a few months. i would go with a yellow as they do not get super big and can be handled easier when they get to the adult size (i always handle my adults with a helper) . if the size is an issue then dont over feed if until you tame it down . i had a 2 year old female green that was very agressive and it wasnt even 5 foot long (plus it was a picky eater) but i could handle it .... i m more into breeding them currently and i dont really care of there temperments but the tamer the snake is makes cage cleaning easier .. (lucky me mine can be handled without gloves except for one but i m still working with him 2 to 3 times a day) . a anaconda is a long term commitment , you have to realize that this snake could be your best pet or your worse nightmare depending on YOURSELF . it requires a lot of time , daily handling , at least weekly cage cleaning and maybe a lot of bites so it might be upto you on if you are ready for this .

again you can try a redtail boa , burmese python (they get very large) or any other not super big snake and try to get the feel to own a anaconda but you still need to follow these guide lines .

this is my number one rule "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR" if you buy a $75.00 green anaconda then expect the worse , again if you buy a $45.00 burmese python then again expect what you paid for . once in a blue moon as i did is get a good deal here and there but it is not common .

well i hope i didnt bore you too much but i m talking from experience

i will include a few pics













if you need any help lmk

thanks
10/07/07  11:09pm

 #1470996


Froggymadnes
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   Message To: GoodNPlenty   In reference to Message Id: 1470876


 Good or bad idea?

yea thats what im thinking. Unfourtunately, my mom doesnt like them cuz they get too thick... condas r my new love, but I hate making impulse buys. Which is why I love it when my parents dont lend me money. I know Ill regret it. Thanks. I think Ill just start working with rtbs at my snake shop, holding them, getting used to their bulk, and the guys in there let me do a lot of stuff. Ill probably be till I have my own place when i get one.
10/07/07  11:10pm

 #1483091


Warlock
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1470996


 Good or bad idea?

I have loved anacondas my whole life. I’ve kept a variety of snake corns, balls, rats, burms, and a boas. but never an anaconda. there simply beautiful but how do you keep them? how big of a tank do you need being a mostly aquatic snake? I’m not getting one. I’m just curious
10/18/07  09:38pm

 #1483376


Denial9945
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   Message To: Warlock   In reference to Message Id: 1483091


 Good or bad idea?

Hi if you really think about it male yellow anacondas dont really even get that much bigger and bulkier than rtbs. The thing about condas is they can side strike you if you piss them off and that hurts alot lol. You keep anacondas pretty much the same way you keep any other snake. Kelly heller has proven that they do not need a water source to be successful captives although I give mine water sources because I feel they are anacondas and thats what they were made for lol So my male green which is about 10 feet now has a large rubbermaid filled with water at all times until eating before I feed him I take it out and put a smaller water bowl that he cant soak in becasue he will go to the bathroom all in it and just lay in his filth lol and then I get off work and have to pull him out of it lol and he doesnt smell pretty when he does that lol but after he eats and goes to the bathroom he gets his rubbermaid back



10/19/07  09:01am

 #1485303


Raja
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   Message To: Denial9945   In reference to Message Id: 1483376


 Good or bad idea?

Just reading over the thread, I think a male yellow would be awesome. I was ounce a kid your age always wanting big snakes. Male yellows aren’t big though, can be nasty though. They average a foot on a corn and just a couple pounds. You just got to take it on the wrist a few times. The best way by far to tame any snake is to let em bite, and don’t put em away until they calm down. They bite to be left alone. If you show em that isn’t going to work they stop. Trust me. Works with Corns Rats and Kings when they let the stink on you too! Besides your gonna get bit sooner or later, they don’t hurt until 8’ plus feet and if you can’t take the lashing you will know not to get big snake until your big! I’d say get one if you can meet caging, humidity, and heating requirements.
10/21/07  01:14pm

 #1487292


Anaconda_seeker
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   Message To: Raja   In reference to Message Id: 1485303


 Good or bad idea?

Raja

i think you are a little off of pace . i have a few yellow anacondas and even the 3 to 4 footers hurt when they bite. if the snake is known to be agressive then i always where a sweat shirt and gloves . then if they bite then it doesnt hurt . its not the answer for them to draw blood to let them know you arent going to put them down once they bite . after purchasing any anaconda i always handle them a few times with gloves just to see how there temperment really is...i have one of my friends male yellow anacondas and he is just under 6 foot long (12 pounds) and i would not dare to pick him up without a pair of gloves and a sweat shirt as he will bite any given chance and he will hold on...and i would never compare them to corns or kings .... i have been messing with mainly green anacondas over the past 15 years or so and now that the family has got large i have switched over to yellows as the space is more limited . which i m just as happy with messing with the yellows over the greens . dont take this the wrong way but i m here to help out with newbies and dont want to steer them the wrong way....

i would love to see some pics of your anacondas if you have some...

thanks
10/23/07  03:48am

 #1490312


Raja
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   Message To: Anaconda_seeker   In reference to Message Id: 1487292


 Good or bad idea?

I have both, and it don’t hurt. If your scared of the snake, probably not a good idea to have one. I tame down reptiles for the local pet shops and like I said only the larger ones hurt. Got tagged in the ribs by a 10 foot burmese ounce, it hurt. But nothing the size of a male yellow. 6 foot African rock to the eye will shake you up a little, make you think about what your doing, but nothing more. If it scares him, he don’t need it. If he buys it and don’t wont it, I’ll buy it from him. Try this method, I promise results. They learn just like we do, by punishment, which do them is not giving them what they want. To be left alone. They’ll get use to it and learn your not a threat. I’m not nocking you, just try it.
10/25/07  05:34pm

 #1490925


Anaconda_seeker
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   Message To: Raja   In reference to Message Id: 1490312


 Good or bad idea?

RAJA not a problem

my opinion in owning a anaconda if you want one get one as they are not much different then any other snake to care for . i strongly suggest getting a baby (KEEP IN MIND THIS SNAKE WILL GET HUGE), if handled daily for short periods of time then the snake will tame down easily if the cage condions are up to par and the snake is feeding well . i have been really lucky on obtaining very tame anacondas , but i got one in today and this snake will strike everytime you walk by the cage . so i m off to try to feed it and take some pics of him

thanks



10/26/07  02:18am

 #1492475


Carpondro17
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1469562


 Good or bad idea?

its a bad idea they need like their own room even for a yellow the yellows avarge 9 feet and some get to 14 and if your 13 not good idea you should wait at least a year or 2 cuz their very agresive (yellows and green ones) and when they get to like 10 feet you have to feed thenm like rabits and bigger stuff look up a lil more and wait then make your decision



10/27/07  05:31pm

 #1492514


300
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   Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1492475


 Good or bad idea?

capondro
male or female, yellows dont need their own room. They are only aggressive if you dont handle them, i have a female green that i just got a little more than 2 weeks ago and bit me a lot but now i can even touch her head area without out her being to worried about it.

froggymadnes
since you only on 2 corns and want to evntually get a male yellow i would say get a RTB or BRB



10/27/07  06:05pm

 #1493342


Carpondro17
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   Message To: 300   In reference to Message Id: 1492514


 Good or bad idea?

300
well ive seen some pics of a yellow anaconda and he was overgrown the guy said he was like 15 or 16 feet and he needed like his own room


well i love anacondas ima get 1 in a cupple of years but its a big responsability you should start of with a burmese pythons and then buy a conda or some other big python
10/28/07  11:36am

 #1521452


King of sSNAKESs
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   Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1493342


 Good or bad idea?

OK heres a good step
I know you dont want to hear this, but yeah, a corn is not gonna do it. youlll be surprised when this thing gets 7 feet long, and 30 pounds.

Get a female jungle carpet python.
The reason I say this is because they are about the size of a male green anaconda, but a little thinner, so youll have an easier time with it than a conda. Anacondas can be fairly agressive, where as jungle carpet pythons are docile, but do have cage aggression, meaning you will get used to having to get a mad snake out of an enclosure. But once there out they are just dolls. They also eat a lot.

In general a carpet python is a lot better for a large begginner snake than an anaconda. have a full grown carpet for about 2 years, then get a conda.

And no matter what big snake you get, start with a baby! Nobody can be ready to take on an 8 foot, 50 pound snake in one day.
11/20/07  09:02pm

 #1522508


Leoman23
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   Message To: King of sSNAKESs   In reference to Message Id: 1521452


 Good or bad idea?

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11/21/07  09:07pm

 #1525246


King of sSNAKESs
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   Message To: Leoman23   In reference to Message Id: 1522508


 Good or bad idea?

thought about it. a boa might be better than a carpet python. more docile. start with a baby hogg island boa. male.
11/24/07  09:23pm

 #1528072


Chris8920
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   Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 1469562


 Good or bad idea?

Also keep in mind that you are young, and Anaconda’s are a snake that have been proven to look at humans as a food source. Once the snake gets larger, it will take a lot more than just you and your brother to handle it.



11/27/07  06:48pm

 #1528636


GoodNPlenty
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   Message To: Chris8920   In reference to Message Id: 1528072


 Good or bad idea?

Chris, can you find me a link to that study? Or clarify some of the speciics of this "proof"?

In order to consume a full grown, avg sized adult man, a snake would need to be at least 14-15 feet I believe (I’ll find the sources for this when I’ve got more time).

Would a snake like an anaconda have any issues consuming an infant? Goodness no, but this is hardly something specific to anaccondas or even something shocking at all. Face it, humans arent exactly natues best killing machines as far as natural defenses go!

A large enough anaconda recognizing people CAN be food? I dont doubt it. Snakes actively killing infants or young children, sure I can see it happening of course. But to actively look to humans as a food source might be overstating a bit?

I admit, I can be fully wrong, but if you could provide a link to the proof I’d greatly appreciate it!

**There is a considerable difference between having the *Capability* to kill/eat a human and the *Drive/Motive* to do it**
11/28/07  09:58am

 #1529694


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   Message To: GoodNPlenty   In reference to Message Id: 1528636


 Good or bad idea?

hello

well i will put my 2 cents in again well lets spice it up and call it my 3 cents lol

if you want a male yellow anaconda then get a male yellow anaconda . one of my male yellow anacondas is 3 1/2 years old and just barely 6 foot long and about 4 inches in girth.

pay the extra money and get a established captive borned male yellow anaconda baby from a known breeder and work with it everyday , dont over feed it . if you are not comfortable with it in a year then get rid of it and give it a try again later when you are older . i just cant express my self enough if you want a male yellow anaconda then just get one . dont waste your time with other boas because i have seen many nasty boas in my days and the old saying really goes a long way "you get what you pay for"
i currently have a 3 to 4 foot male yellow anaconda that is nasty mean , if i m lucky i can usually just reach in and pick him up quick enough to put him in his holding cage while i clean his cage without getting bit , i use to wear gloves but one time i didnt think about it and reached in there and he tagged me and it doesnt really even hurt so i dont even bother with gloves...

you have to keep in mind that a male yellow will not get that big i think the biggest one that i have heard of was 9 foot long and about 6 inches in girth which is a big male....

so if you want one just get one....i think some people have the movie anaconda in there mind when they post sometimes...lol

here is a few pics


bite from my large 6 foot male yellow (he usually is hand tame)


two of my males to show color comparison the high yellow one is my pride and joy (sorry about the dirty cage)


and my mean male yellow .... he means well..lol

all i m saying if you want a yellow then get one dont waste your time with another snake if you truly want a yellow anaconda , they arent that bad

lmk

thanks
11/29/07  02:30am

 #1530151


Txsnakeguy
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   Message To: Anaconda_seeker   In reference to Message Id: 1529694


 Good or bad idea?

Just to put in my two cents worth. There have been two stories in the news that I can think of right off the top of my head, about lage snakes killing people. maybe not eatting them but the people are dead just the same. It may not count for much but , I do love large snakes and have a great deal of respect for them. As for a 13 year old, stay clear of anything but a baby. Anything that can get to the size of a full grown conda or even a brum can kill a full grown male. When any snake goes into feed stage unless you know what you are doing around something that big is going to get you hurt to say the least.
11/29/07  05:31pm

 #1530169


Txsnakeguy
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   Message To: Txsnakeguy   In reference to Message Id: 1530151


 Good or bad idea?

And before anyone says anything YES most of the stories i have heard about are from brums. The fact is that the size is there and for someone to tell a 13 year old it is ok to have something like that should also tell them what could happen if you dont know what you are doing. Just know this there are no tame snakes, only a snake that over time is to the point it will let you handle it. They can be as wild as if you pick it up off the road. I do not own a conda at this time, but I have raised 2 brums and I have had going on 15 years of working with snakes of all kinds. I also will note that if you know how to handle a large snake condas are nice to have, I have worked with a couple . I would never sell or turn a 13 year old lose with one. Until you get some hands on time with large snakes stay away from the condas. Get a few years of dealing with large herps and then you will be better off, then you will be able to provide the best care for your conda as well as care for yourself when dealing with it.
11/29/07  05:48pm

 #1530355


GoodNPlenty
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   Message To: Txsnakeguy   In reference to Message Id: 1530169


 Good or bad idea?

It also depends on the growth rate of the snake though. I a neonate burm wont be hitting that 10ft+ mark over night. While snakes can show remarkable growth acceleration, its not something that goes from 2’ neonate to 10’+ over night.

When you buy the neonate at 15-16ish you’ll be hitting peak physical growth around the same time as your snake

*This can go for Condas too. And yes, I know snake growth rate varies with feeding and such, so it is possible to "make em big" just as much as it is to dwarf a snake w/ correctly managed feeding.

~GNP
11/29/07  08:23pm

 #1592317


The_sandboa
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   Message To: GoodNPlenty   In reference to Message Id: 1530355


 Good or bad idea?

if your gona listen to anyone id listen to anaconda_seeker hes seems to know alot about them and hope soon ill be buy a conda from him. although ive a bit of exp with snakes ive had bp,emeralds,rtbs ive been around boelens,burms and retics as im ready for a conda
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