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Prettykttkat View Profile |
READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
What is HR 669? H.R. 669 stands for House Resolution 669 and is titled "The Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act". It is a bill currently before Congress that if passed will change the way that the US Government classifies animal species that are not native to the United States. H.R. 669 will make it illegal to breed and sell many animals that are very common in the pet trade. Why should you care about HR 669? Anyone with pet fish, birds, reptiles, or small mammals will be affected by this bill. Any company selling product or services for pet fish, birds, reptiles or small mammals will be affected by this bill. Would you be impacted by "The Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act"? Virtually all fish in an aquarium are not native to the United States Most pet birds are species not native to the US Most reptiles kept as pets are not native to the US Hamsters, gerbils, guinea pigs and ferrets are not native to the US Don’t let H.R. 669 pass! If you go to this link you can send a letter/email to your state representative telling them how you feel and asking them to not let H.R. 669 pass. They even have a pre written letter to send if you are unsure of what to write and you can add to it if you want. They also have the phone number of your representative so you may follow up with a phone call if you desire. Me and my husband already sent 2 emails voicing our opinion. One for the state I live in and one for my husband’s home state of record(he’s military). http://www.nohr669.com./dosomething.htm |
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| 04/10/09 12:38pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Prettykttkat In reference to Message Id: 1983522 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
HR 669 IH 111th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 669 To prevent the introduction and establishment of nonnative wildlife species that negatively impact the economy, environment, or other animal species’ or human health, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 26, 2009 Ms. BORDALLO (for herself, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. ABERCROMBIE, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Mr. KIND, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mrs. NAPOLITANO, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. KLEIN of Florida, and Mr. KILDEE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Natural Resources -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To prevent the introduction and establishment of nonnative wildlife species that negatively impact the economy, environment, or other animal species’ or human health, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ‘Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act’. SEC. 2. PURPOSE. The purpose of this Act is to establish a risk assessment process to prevent the introduction into, and establishment in, the United States of nonnative wildlife species that will cause or are likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to other animal species’ health or human health. SEC. 3. RISK ASSESSMENT PROCESS FOR IMPORTATION OF NONNATIVE WILDLIFE SPECIES. (a) In General- The Secretary of the Interior, acting through the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, shall promulgate regulations that establish a process for assessing the risk of all nonnative wildlife species proposed for importation into the United States, other than nonnative wildlife species that are included in the list of approved species issued under section 4. (b) Factors To Be Considered- The regulations promulgated under subsection (a) shall include consideration of-- (1) the identity of the organism to the species level, including to the extent possible specific information on its subspecies and genetic identity; (2) the native range of the species; (3) whether the species has established or spread, or caused harm to the economy, the environment, or other animal species or human health in ecosystems in or ecosystems that are similar to those in the United States; (4) the likelihood that environmental conditions suitable for the establishment or spread of the species exist in the United States; (5) the likelihood of establishment of the species in the United States; (6) the likelihood of spread of the species in the United States; (7) the likelihood that the species would harm wildlife resources in the United States; (8) the likelihood that the species would harm native species that are rare or native species that have been listed as threatened species or endangered species in the United States under the Endangered Species Act of 1973 (16 U.S.C. 1531 et seq.); (9) the likelihood that the species would harm habitats or ecosystems in the United States; (10) the likelihood that pathogenic species or parasitic species may accompany the species proposed for importation; and (11) other factors important to assessing the risks associated with the species, consistent with the purpose under section 2. (c) Notice- In promulgating the regulations under subsection (a), the Secretary shall provide notice to States, Indian tribes, other stakeholders concerned with environmental, humane, public health, economic, trade, and other relevant issues, the Aquatic Nuisance Species Task Force, the National Invasive Species Council, the Department of Agriculture, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (d) Transparency- The Secretary shall ensure that the risk assessment process established by the regulations under subsection (a) is based on sound science and is consistent with sections 4 and 5. (e) Deadlines- The Secretary shall-- (1) publish in the Federal Register proposed regulations under subsection (a) and a proposed preliminary list of approved species under section 4(b), by not later than 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act; (2) publish in the Federal Register final regulations under subsection (a), a final preliminary list of approved species under section 4(b), and a notice of the prohibitions under this Act, by not later than 30 days before the date on which the Secretary begins assessing risk under the regulations; and (3) begin assessing risk with respect to nonnative wildlife species under the final regulations promulgated under subsection (a), and publish notice thereof, by not later than 37 months after the date of the enactment of this Act. (f) Animals Owned Lawfully Prior to Prohibition of Importation- This Act and regulations issued under this Act shall not interfere with the ability of any person to possess an individual animal of any species if such individual animal was legally owned by the person before the risk assessment is begun pursuant to subsection (e)(3), even if such species is later prohibited from being imported under the regulations issued under this Act. SEC. 4. LIST OF APPROVED SPECIES. (a) Requirement To Issue List of Approved Species- (1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 36 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register a list of nonnative wildlife species approved for importation into the United States. (2) EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN SPECIES- The Secretary shall not include in the list-- (A) any species included in the list of prohibited species under section 5; or (B) any species, the importation of which is prohibited by any other Federal law or regulation of the United States due to the likelihood of causing harm to the economy, the environment, or other animal species or human health. (3) REVISION- The Secretary may revise the list issued under this section based on available scientific and commercial information. (b) Preliminary List- (1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall include in the preliminary list under this section nonnative wildlife species that the Secretary finds, consistent with the factors described in section 3(b) and based on scientific and commercial information that is provided in a proposal under paragraph (2) or otherwise available to the Secretary-- (A) are not harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health; or (B) may be harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health, but already are so widespread in the United States that it is clear to the Secretary that any import prohibitions or restrictions would have no practical utility for the United States. (2) PROPOSALS FOR INCLUSION IN PRELIMINARY LIST- The Secretary-- (A) shall, by not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this Act, publish in the Federal Register, and make available on a publically available Federal Internet site, a request for submission, by any interested persons (including persons that import or that intend to import nonnative wildlife species), of proposals of nonnative wildlife species to be included in the preliminary list under this subsection and supporting documentation for such proposals; (B) shall accept such proposals for 10 months after the date the Secretary publishes the request for submissions; and (C) may propose a nonnative wildlife species for inclusion in the preliminary list. (3) PUBLIC NOTICE AND COMMENT- Before issuing the final preliminary list of approved species under this subsection, the Secretary shall-- (A) publish in the Federal Register and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site, the proposed preliminary list; and (B) provide for, a period of not less than 60 days, an opportunity to submit public comments on the proposed preliminary list. (4) PUBLICATION OF LIST- The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site, the final preliminary list under this subsection. (c) Proposal for Inclusion on the Approved List- (1) SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS- (A) IN GENERAL- After publication of the final preliminary list under subsection (b)-- (i) any interested person may submit to the Secretary in accordance with subparagraph (B) a proposal to include a nonnative wildlife species in the approved list under this section (including a request to import such a species that is not in the list published under this section and section 5, respectively); and (ii) upon receipt of a complete proposal under clause (i), the Secretary shall publish notice of the proposal in the Federal Register and provide an opportunity for 30 days of public comment on the proposal. (B) INFORMATION REQUIRED- Any proposal under this paragraph must include sufficient scientific and commercial information to allow the Secretary to evaluate whether the proposed nonnative wildlife species is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to other animal species’ or human health. (2) DETERMINATION- Based on scientific and commercial information provided in a proposal under paragraph (1) or otherwise available to the Secretary, the Secretary shall make one of the following determinations regarding such a proposal in a reasonable period of time and in accordance with the regulations issued under section 3: (A) The nonnative wildlife species is approved for importation, and is added to the list of approved species under this section. (B) The nonnative wildlife species is not approved for importation, unless permitted under section 7. (C) The Secretary has insufficient scientific and commercial information to make a determination under subparagraph (A) or (B). (3) TREATMENT OF UNAPPROVED SPECIES- If the Secretary makes a determination under paragraph (2)(B) that a nonnative wildlife species is not approved for importation, the Secretary shall include the nonnative wildlife species in the list of unapproved species under section 5. (4) NOTICE OF DETERMINATION- The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register notice of the determination made under paragraph (2) and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site or through other appropriate means, the basis for the determination. SEC. 5. LIST OF UNAPPROVED SPECIES. (a) Requirement To Issue List of Unapproved Species- (1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register a list of nonnative wildlife species that are prohibited from importation into the United States except as provided in section 7. (2) INCLUDED SPECIES- The list under this subsection shall include-- (A) those species listed as injurious wildlife under section 42 of title 18, United States Code, or under regulations under that section, as of the date of enactment of this Act; and (B) any other species the Secretary determines under section 4(c)(2)(B) is not approved for importation. (b) Proposal for Inclusion on the List of Unapproved Species- (1) PROPOSAL- (A) IN GENERAL- Any person may submit to the Secretary a proposal to add to the list under this section any nonnative wildlife species. (B) INFORMATION REQUIRED- Any proposal under this subsection must include sufficient scientific and commercial information to allow the Secretary to evaluate whether the proposed nonnative wildlife species is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to other animal species’ or human health. (2) NOTICE- The Secretary shall publish notice of a complete proposal in the Federal Register and provide an opportunity for 30 days of public comment on the proposal. (3) DETERMINATION- Based on scientific and commercial information provided in a proposal under paragraph (1) or otherwise available to the Secretary, the Secretary shall make one of the following determinations regarding such a proposal in a reasonable period of time and in accordance with regulations issued under section 3: (A) The nonnative wildlife species is not approved for importation except as provided in section 7, and is added to the list of unapproved species under this section. (B) The nonnative wildlife species is approved for importation. (C) The Secretary has insufficient scientific and commercial information to make a determination under subparagraph (A) or (B). (4) TREATMENT OF APPROVED SPECIES- If the Secretary makes a determination under paragraph (3)(B) that a nonnative wildlife species is approved for importation, the Secretary shall include the nonnative wildlife species in the list of approved species under section 4. (5) NOTICE OF DETERMINATION- The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register notice of the determination made under paragraph (3) and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site or through other appropriate means the basis for the determination. (c) Revision- The Secretary may revise the list issued under this section based on any scientific and commercial information available to the Secretary. (d) Emergency Authority and Temporary Prohibition- (1) IN GENERAL- If the Secretary determines that an emergency exists because a nonnative wildlife species poses an imminent threat of harm to the United States economy, the environment, or human or animal species’ health, the Secretary may temporarily include the nonnative wildlife species in the list of unapproved species under this section and, as appropriate, remove the species from the list of approved species under section 4. (2) NOTICE OF TEMPORARY LISTING- The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register notice of each temporary listing under this subsection and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site or through other appropriate means the basis for the temporary listing. (3) DETERMINATION- Within 180 days after temporarily including a nonnative wildlife species in the unapproved species list under this section, the Secretary shall make a final determination under subsection (b)(3) regarding the species, publish in the Federal Register notice of the final determination, and make available on a publicly available Federal Internet site or through other appropriate means the basis for the final determination. (4) LIMITATION ON PROCEDURES- The procedures under section 4(c)(1)(A)(ii), subsection (b)(2) of this section, and section 553 of title 5, United States Code, shall not apply to determinations under this subsection. SEC. 6. PROHIBITIONS AND PENALTIES. (a) Prohibitions- Except as provided in this section or in section 7, it is unlawful for any person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to-- (1) import into or export from the United States any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4; (2) transport between any State by any means whatsoever any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4; (3) violate any term or condition of a permit issued under section 7; (4) possess (except as provided in section 3(f)), sell or offer to sell, purchase or offer to purchase, or barter for or offer to barter for, any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1); (5) release into the wild any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1); or (6) breed any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1), or provide any such species to another person for breeding purposes. (b) Penalties and Enforcement- Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to the civil penalties and criminal penalties described in section 4 of the Lacey Act Amendments of 1981 (16 U.S.C. 3373). Sections 4(b), 4(e), 5, and 6 of that Act shall apply to such a violation in the same manner as they apply to a violation of that Act. (c) Limitation on Application- (1) IN GENERAL- The prohibitions in subsection (a) shall not apply to-- (A) any action by Federal, State, tribal, or local law enforcement personnel to enforce this section; and (B) any action by Federal or State officials to prevent the introduction or establishment of nonnative wildlife species. (2) IMPORTATION AND TRANSPORTATION BY FEDERAL AGENCIES- Nothing in this Act shall restrict the import or transportation between any States of nonnative wildlife species by a Federal agency for its own use, if the nonnative wildlife species remains in the possession of a Federal agency. (d) Effective Date- This section shall take effect upon the publication of notice under section 3(e)(3). SEC. 7. PERMITS. (a) In General- The Secretary may issue a permit authorizing importation otherwise prohibited under section 6(a)(1), for scientific research, medical, accredited zoological or aquarium display purposes, or for educational purposes that are specifically reviewed, approved, and verified by the Secretary, if the Secretary finds that there has been a proper showing by the permittee of responsibility for the specimen and continued protection of the public interest and health with respect to the specimen. (b) Terms and Conditions- The Secretary may include in a permit under subsection (a) terms and conditions to minimize the risk of introduction or establishment of the nonnative wildlife species in the United States. SEC. 8. FEES. (a) Fee for Proposal To Include Species in List- (1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall establish in the regulations under section 3, and collect, a fee from any person that after publication of the final preliminary list under section 4(b) submits to the Secretary-- (A) a proposal under section 4(c) to include a nonnative wildlife species to the list of approved species under section 4; or (B) a proposal under section 5(b) to include a nonnative wildlife species to the list of unapproved species under section 5. (2) PURPOSE- The fee shall be to recover costs of assessing risk of nonnative wildlife species under the regulations issued under section 3. (b) Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Fund- (1) ESTABLISHMENT- There is established in the Treasury a separate account, which shall be known as the Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Fund. (2) CONTENTS- There shall be deposited into the account all amounts received by the United States as fees under this section or as fines for violations of this Act and its implementing regulations. (3) USE- Amounts in the account shall be available to the Secretary, subject to the availability of appropriations, for the purposes of implementing this Act. SEC. 9. TREATMENT OF NONNATIVE WILDLIFE SPECIES AS NONMAILABLE MATTER. Nonnative wildlife species included in the list of approved species issued under section 4 shall be considered and treated as nonmailable matter under section 3015 of title 39, United States Code. SEC. 10. RELATIONSHIP TO STATE LAW. (a) In General- Nothing in this Act preempts or otherwise affects the application of any State law that establishes stricter requirements for importation, transportation, possession, sale, purchase, release, or breeding of, or bartering for, any nonnative wildlife species. (b) Limitation on Application of Prohibitions and Penalties To Prevent Release- The Secretary may limit the application of any provision of section 6 to facilitate implementation of any State program that encourages voluntary surrender to a State of nonnative wildlife species, if the Secretary determines that such limitation will prevent release of such species. SEC. 11. REQUIREMENT TO ISSUE REGULATIONS. The Secretary shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary and appropriate to carry out the purposes of this Act. SEC. 12. RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER FEDERAL LAWS. Except as provided in section 13, nothing in this Act shall be construed-- (1) as repealing, superseding, or modifying any provision of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 201 et seq.) or the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 301 et seq.); or (2) as authorizing any action with respect to the importation of any plant pest as defined in the Federal Plant Pest Act (7 U.S.C. 150aa et seq.), insofar as such importation is subject to regulation under that Act. SEC. 13. REDESIGNATION OF INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL AS NATIONAL INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL. (a) Redesignation- The Invasive Species Council established by Executive Order 13112 on February 8, 1999 (64 Fed. Reg. 6183) is redesignated as the National Invasive Species Council. (b) References- Any reference in a law, map, regulation, document, paper, or other record of the United States to the council referred to in subsection (a) is deemed to be a reference to the National Invasive Species Council. SEC. 14. DEFINITIONS. For the purposes of this Act: (1) AQUATIC NUISANCE SPECIES TASK FORCE- The term ‘Aquatic Nuisance Species Task Force’ means the Aquatic Nuisance Species Task Force established under section 1201 of the Nonindigenous Aquatic Nuisance Prevention and Control Act of 1990 (16 U.S.C. 4702). (2) IMPORT- The term ‘import’ means to land on, bring into, or introduce into, or attempt to land on, bring into, or introduce into, any place subject to the jurisdiction of the Government of the United States, whether or not such landing, bringing into, or introduction constitutes an importation within the meaning of the customs laws of the Government of the United States. (3) NATIONAL INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL- The term ‘National Invasive Species Council’ means the National Invasive Species Council established by Executive Order 13112 on February 8, 1999 (64 Fed. Reg. 6183), as redesignated by section 13. (4) NATIVE SPECIES- The term ‘native species’ means a species that historically occurred or currently occurs in the United States, other than as a result of an intentional or unintentional introduction by humans. (5) NONNATIVE WILDLIFE SPECIES- The term ‘nonnative wildlife species’-- (A) except as provided in subparagraph (C), means any live species or subspecies of animal that is not a native species or subspecies, whether or not born or raised in captivity; (B) except as provided in subparagraph (C), includes-- (i) any such live, wild species or subspecies of mammal, bird, fish, reptile, amphibian, insect, mollusk, crustacean, arthropod, coelenterate, or other invertebrate, and (ii) any viable egg, sperm, gamete, or other reproductive material or offspring thereof; (C) does not include any species that is-- (i) specifically defined or regulated as a plant pest or approved for biological control purposes under the Plant Protection Act (7 U.S.C. 7701 et seq.); or (ii) defined or regulated as a threat to livestock or poultry under the Animal Health Protection Act (7 U.S.C. 8301 et seq.); and (D) does not include any cat (Felis catus), cattle or oxen (Bos taurus), chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus), dog (Canis lupus familiaris), donkey or smarty pants (Equus asinus), domesticated members of the family Anatidae (geese), duck (domesticated Anas spp.), goat (Capra aegagrus hircus), goldfish (Carassius auratus auratus), horse (Equus caballus), llama (Lama glama), mule or hinny (Equus caballus x E. asinus), pig or hog (Sus scrofa domestica), domesticated varieties of rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus), or sheep (Ovis aries), or any other species or variety of species that is determined by the Secretary to be common and clearly domesticated. (6) PERSON- The term ‘person’ means-- (A) an individual, corporation, partnership, trust, association, or any other private entity; (B) any officer, employee, agent, department, or instrumentality of the Federal Government, or of any State, municipality, or political subdivision of a State, or of any foreign government; and (C) any other entity subject to the jurisdiction of the Government of the United States. (7) SECRETARY- The term ‘Secretary’ means the Secretary of the Interior. (8) STATE- The term ‘State’ includes the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands, and any other territory or possession of the United States. (9) UNITED STATES- The term ‘United States’ means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, any possession of the United States, and any waters, including the territorial sea and the Exclusive Economic Zone, within the jurisdiction or sovereignty of the Government of the United States. . |
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| 04/10/09 03:33pm |
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JENOVA View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1983599 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/11/09 01:10am |
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Reptileguy1498 View Profile |
Message To: JENOVA In reference to Message Id: 1983875 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
Have you guys heard about the Dirt Bike ban? It prevents the selling or buying of dirt bikes or parts designed for children under the age of 12 (80cc or less). Can you gess why? The lead content is too high in some of the parts of the dirt bike. My favorite snack has always been a cluch lever with a side of prake pads. Pretty funny what some people will do. In this economy stores and tracks are now will probabley have 1/2 of their normal buisness due to this bill. Is this bill really helping out people in the U.S. at all?  |
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| 04/12/09 12:12pm |
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TwilightRealm View Profile |
Message To: Reptileguy1498 In reference to Message Id: 1984614 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/12/09 05:34pm |
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Lizardman07 View Profile |
Message To: TwilightRealm In reference to Message Id: 1984790
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| 04/12/09 11:55pm |
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Reptileguy1498 View Profile |
Message To: TwilightRealm In reference to Message Id: 1984790 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
Sorry about hijacking the thread, just trying to give an example of some of the pointless laws that have been created. Did you know that in Arkansas it is illegal to call the state "Our Kansas" Just proves how many pointless laws there are. :]  |
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| 04/13/09 04:13pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Reptileguy1498 In reference to Message Id: 1985284 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
(B) may be harmful to the United States’ economy, the environment, or other animal species’ or human health, but already are so widespread in the United States that it is clear to the Secretary that any import prohibitions or restrictions would have no practical utility for the United States. f) Animals Owned Lawfully Prior to Prohibition of Importation- This Act and regulations issued under this Act shall not interfere with the ability of any person to possess an individual animal of any species if such individual animal was legally owned by the person before the risk assessment is begun pursuant to subsection (e)(3), even if such species is later prohibited from being imported under the regulations issued under this Act. |
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| 04/13/09 06:29pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1985373 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Mar 7, 2009 11:06AM] |
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| 04/13/09 06:31pm |
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Prettykttkat View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1985374 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
This bill will also make people go underground and create a black market for non native species. Not good:( It will put petstore chains and small mom and pop stores out of business. I don’t see how that will help the economy at all. Then of course there is my biggest fear, the crazy unknowledgable people. Since it will state that animals will not be approved if they are harmful to humans and/or their health, this leaves the door open for some wack job to say all reptiles are harmful because they carry salmonella. This kind of craziness could lead to the mass euthanasia of animals. I’ve have actually heard of this before happening. It was at a turtle farm in Georgia. One turtle was tested and of course it came back positive for salmonella and so it was ordered that all the turtles at the turtle farm be euthanized. I was outraged when I heard about it. How can people be so crazy/stupid. |
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| 04/14/09 12:00pm |
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Prettykttkat View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1985374 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
So far the only animals that are definitely approved are: Horses,mules,asses,cows,goats,sheep,pigs,ducks,geese,chickens,goldfish,cats,dogs,llamas,domesticated rabbits. I might have left out one or two but you get the idea. Everything else is subject to approval. Scary:( |
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| 04/14/09 12:17pm |
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Da Lizard 25 View Profile |
Message To: Prettykttkat In reference to Message Id: 1985736 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/14/09 03:30pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Da Lizard 25 In reference to Message Id: 1985826 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/14/09 05:01pm |
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TwilightRealm View Profile |
Message To: Reptileguy1498 In reference to Message Id: 1985284 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
Quote: Someone was riding a dirt bike on the side walk?
No, a regular bike, which was to prove my point. Regular bikes are less dangerous than dirt bikes, yet I almost got run over. I know one of my friends, when he was 7, was run over by someone on a regular bike. He was lucky he came out of it all right. Thing is, dirt bikes are even more dangerous, and I for one wouldn’t want them anywhere near where children play. Quote: I don’t know why dirt bikes would be included though, what kid would like to chew on their dirt bike?
Are we talking about the same dirt bikes? I’m talking about big, fast, dirt bikes. Are you referring to children’s big wheels? Anyway, at the subject of hand, I hope the bill passes. First off, folks, if your pet is on the list, nobody is going to come and give you a fine, and take away your pet and kill it like some of these protesters are saying. That’s just ridiculous, not to mention that the bill mentions that people already owning the pets are grandfathered in. This bill addresses a real problem: Invasive species taking over ecosystems and endangering the native animals. There have been countless cases, and as a result, there are several species of creatures we will never see again. Examples of invasions: - Various species of imported anoles wiping out the green anoles in Florida. - The flathead catfish, introduced as sportfish, flourished in a dozen states in the USA at the expense of native fish. - Tree frogs called coqui were accidentally imported into Hawaii via potted plants. There’s now about 8,000 coqui per acre in some places, eating about 50,000 insects a night--insects that other native insects and birds rely on for food. - The Citrus Longhorn Beetle came as stowaways to North America from China. Unlike insects that attack dead trees, these beetle threaten healthy ones. - In the 1890s, a man thought the USA should have every bird mentioned in Shakespeare. He released 100 starlings in New York. Today there are an estimated 200 million of these birds in the U.S. The government is just trying to do what it can to preserve our ecosystems. |
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| 04/16/09 04:04pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: TwilightRealm In reference to Message Id: 1987103 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
"Virtually all fish in an aquarium are not native to the United States Most pet birds are species not native to the US Most reptiles kept as pets are not native to the US Hamsters, gerbils, guinea pigs and ferrets are not native to the US" All of the above mentioned are so pervasive in the pet community, with domestic populations in the millions, that they would be exempted by the fact that they are so wide spread that a ban on the importation would be impractical (as stated in the bill itself). The second list of reptiles mentioned have established breeding populations in the US (a link provided to Florida) and again a ban would be impractical and they would be exempted. I think you will find, that if you examine the Wildlife Laws of your home state, that most are more restrictive than the proposed bill. |
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| 04/16/09 07:05pm |
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Prettykttkat View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1987205 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/16/09 10:58pm |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Prettykttkat In reference to Message Id: 1987374 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
Also, in cases where Federal and State law are different, the most restrictive law takes precedence. This whole debate has been perpetuated by a bunch of idiots screaming about how the Federal Government is going to "take our pets away" which is simply not the case. They remind me of Chicken Little running around yelling "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". The fact is, those that protest the loudest are likely in violation of their own state laws even now. Most states require a veterinarian’s certificate of health and (if wild cauught) a certificate attesting that the specimen was collected in accordance with the laws of the state of origin for any animal brought into the state. Most are shipped without regard to either requirement. You will also find that a large portion of the problem is irresponsible pet owners deciding that they don’t want to care for their charges any longer and simply release them into the wild. Despite what you may think, many of them do survive and establish viable wild populations. Why do you think laws have been made prohibiting the release of non-native animals in most states? Also, because of the warming climate (whether you believe it is man-made or natural), some species are expanding their ranges. For example, Green Anoles are expanding northward in North Carolina at the rate of several miles per year. Though once found well south of here, I expect them to be in the I-40 corridor within the next 5-10 years, They have expanded to within 20 miles of that point as of last fall when my son collected one where he lives. |
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Concos Herp View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1987525
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Concos Herp In reference to Message Id: 1987876 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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Prettykttkat View Profile |
Message To: Atrax27407 In reference to Message Id: 1987921 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 04/18/09 06:50pm |
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Lizard lady 1011 View Profile |
Message To: Prettykttkat In reference to Message Id: 1983522
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TwilightRealm View Profile |
Message To: Lizard lady 1011 In reference to Message Id: 2017229 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 06/06/09 04:00pm |
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Bryce91 View Profile |
Message To: TwilightRealm In reference to Message Id: 2017354 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 11/07/09 05:19am |
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Atrax27407 View Profile |
Message To: Bryce91 In reference to Message Id: 2092909 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 11/07/09 07:48am |
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TwilightRealm View Profile |
Message To: Bryce91 In reference to Message Id: 2092909 READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
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| 11/07/09 08:47pm |
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READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!
READ THIS AND STOP H.R.669!