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 #154128


Braondt06x
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 X’s New Setup

here are some pics of a aquarium i found today at a flea market and had to get:





...and here is just a pic i took:







10/03/04  4:56pm
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 #154137


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154128


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

First-You will be going through hell to get the proper temps and humidity with that cage.
what are you using for a heat source?
what are the temps?
what is the humidity?
what kind of digital thermometer are you using?

Second-
That cage is HUGE!!!! most likely your ball python will be going through a lot of stress with a cage of that size (im guessing it is like a 90 or so gallon bow front, way to big for your ball python). If you wont want to give your snake a smaller more appropriately sized cage, i suggest making a cage divider (opaque) to make the cage a more adequate size. Also tape something that is opaque onto all the sides (tape is on the OUTSIDE of the aquarium) and 1/2 of the front to offer more security for your snake, if you can find transluscent contact paper use that for the front.

Third-Get some real hides. The half log thing shouldn’t even be considered a hide, and that black thing is way to big. The snake should be very tightly coiled in its hide (something dark, small, and easily cleanable/disposable is best. Most of the stuff you get at the petstores are crap). I would use flower pot bases (either terra-cotta or plastic) for a snake that size use a base 6-7" in diameter.

Fourth-
Beautiful Snake, love the pattern.



10/03/04  5:08pm
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 #154199


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 154137


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

what are you using for a heat source?-heat lamp and human heat pad
what are the temps?80 in, 71 out
what is the humidity? 52%
what kind of digital thermometer are you using? acurite indoor/outdoor
yea it seems like you REALLY know your poopie head



10/03/04  6:12pm
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 #154233


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154199


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

Where are you placing the thermometer and its probe?

The temps should be 90 hot, 80 cool. What setting did you set your heat pad to?



10/03/04  6:45pm
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 #154397


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 154233


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

should i have the thermometer to the sude of the cage with the lamp and the probe on the opposite?, b/c the probe is out side of the cage right now



10/03/04  9:42pm
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 #154407


JakePRouse
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 154233


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

i would suggest gettin some vines, that you can stick to the glass ... adds lots of cover, and looks good to.

Yes your BP, might get stressed out in that cage... but in your pics it looks happy. Balled up and hiding = stress, out and about = not stressed. And it looks like its out and about looking around.



10/03/04  9:48pm
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 #154411


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154397


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

the probe should be inside the cage, at the other end.



10/03/04  9:49pm
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 #154431


Braondt06x
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 154411


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

the human heating pad should be inder the tank right



10/03/04  10:05pm
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 #154508


Pelota
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154431


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

I’d like to say first, good job on chewing up the poor poster, Roachey. Making them feel like they can’t take care of their snake is the best way to help them, right.

Yes, the cage is currently too big and probably stressful on your snake. Go to a garden center or Walmart(I found mine there) and buy a bunch of clay pot bottoms and lay them out throughout the cage to give the snake a good choice of hiding spots(knock holes in them first, like shown in the link). Also maybe you could buy some fake greenery like plastic vines and leaves you can get at pet shops, or craft shops(cheaper if you can find them) to give more coverage. Basically, crowd the cage so it looks more secure. I’m all for supplying room for your bp to roam and explore at night, but with not much coverage, it might stress out.

Also for the digital thermometer, place the base unit itself on the cool side to measure cool temperatures, and the probe on the warm side under a hide to measure the warm temperatures. Your cool side should be around 80-85 and warm should be 90-95. Humidity seems a bit low. 55-60% humidity would be perfect.



10/04/04  1:53am
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 #154523


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 154508


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

bbbbbbbbbooooooooooo...................



10/04/04  7:56am
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 #154602


Juma
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154128


 X’s New Setup

X is a great looking snake!
The set up is okay, but like the rest said he needs more hiding spots to feel safe.



10/04/04  11:55am
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 #154700


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154397


 

you should put the base unit of the thermometer on the cool side (side without any heat source) and the probe inside the hide that is directly on/under the heat source.



10/04/04  3:49pm
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 #154708


JasonN
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 154508


 Smaller cage....hides......etc........

Greetings,

I have always been curious about the validity of a large enclosure stressing a snake out. If you have a huge open space and nowhere for your snake to hide then I can see it providing a lot of unwanted stress. However, if on the other hand you have a larger enclosure but plenty of hides and good husbandry, then why would your snake get terribly stressed? Afterall, they live in the wild which is... well... HUGE. Otherwise they must get terribly stressed in nature, right?

That said, I’ve never tested this myself and have always kept my hatchling snakes in small enclosures until they were at least a year old.

Opinions?



10/04/04  3:56pm
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 #154712


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 154128


 Is X gonna be his/her name.........

is X its name? or is it just a variable until you decide on a name?


never thought of using letters or numbers to name a snake.



10/04/04  3:58pm
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 #154716


Roachey56
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  Message To: JasonN   In reference to Message Id: 154708


 Larger vs. smaller.........

Reasons for Larger cages:
-more room for the snake
-easier to provide proper temps (in some peoples opinions)
-easier to make it look nicer (MUCH easier)
-dont have to switch the snake to a new cage every few months
-better viewing of the snake
-more like the "wild" (in some peoples minds)
-people like to anthropomorphize with animals

Reasons for smaller cages:
-Snakes are thigmatrophic
-Larger cages instill the idea of the snake having many predators (for a snake, almost 100% of your predators come from above)
-Smaller cages are easier to heat (in some peoples opinions)
-Not as bright as a larger cage (it depends on the type of cage)
-Easier to monitor your snake for health problems
-Many smaller (and skittish) species of snakes tend to do better when kept in small and dark environments



10/04/04  4:07pm
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 #154717


Roachey56
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 154716


 In smaller cages....humidity is easier to adjust...........np

np



10/04/04  4:08pm
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 #155084


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 154717


 Name

yea its a male but i havent come up with a name that i think suited him and that i liked so my friend sort of named him x after a rapper named DMX but im sure if its gonna stick with him....

im open to any suggestions



10/04/04  10:46pm
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 #155241


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 155084


 Name

Mojo (moejoe)
Mosi (moe-zee)
Freeda (free-duh)
King of Hearts
Cupif



10/05/04  7:18am
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 #155594


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 155084


 X......is a great name....has to be a Capital X though.......np

s



10/05/04  6:31pm
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 #155616


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 155594


 X......is a great name....has to be a Capital X though.......np

yup...im hopin this isnt the dumbest question ever but what is np?



10/05/04  7:04pm
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 #155746


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 155616


 Movin back in....

yea i think im going to have to move X back into his smaller tank atleart un i buy another light fixture b/c like roachey said it is difficult to maintain the temps needed...also does anyone run the tinted bulbs at night?



10/05/04  9:57pm
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 #155907


Pelota
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 155746


 Movin back in....

If by tinted you mean those cheap party bulbs, don’t use them. Their glass is just painted with the color, and after a while it wears off. This is no good cuz usually people buy the red bulbs since bp’s cant see the red spectrum so it won’t bother them, but when it’s not true red, and it fades, it’ll be seen by them. If you must use lamps(I try to avoid them...hard to keep humidity up with them drying the tank out so fast), get an infrared bulb...the ones specifically made for reptiles.

And I myself don’t run any lamps at all, since I try to keep the cage heated by just a heat pad and hate how the lamps dry the tank out. But people do keep the lamps on all day and night. That’s when the infrared bulb becomes useful. Cuz it lights up the cage nicely for us to see them, but they can’t see the light.



10/05/04  11:34pm
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 #155916


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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 155907


 Movin back in....

Hey Pelota- i think its awesome you’re on this website. when i first got here, i could have critisized everyone on here for the things they said. you’re the only one so far that i’ve seen that actually knows what he’s talking about. credit to you :)



10/05/04  11:47pm
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 #155919


Pelota
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  Message To: Super_Smash   In reference to Message Id: 155916


 Movin back in....

Thx Super_Smash. ASL? I’m looking for love.



10/05/04  11:50pm
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 #155922


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 155919


 Movin back in....

mmmm only about an hour and a half from you, baby



10/05/04  11:51pm
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 #155924


Pelota
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  Message To: Super_Smash   In reference to Message Id: 155922


 Movin back in....

Cool. PM me with more info to meet up. I don’t care if you’re male or female. As long as you can get the job done.



10/05/04  11:53pm
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 #155926


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 155924


 Movin back in....

ooo cant wait... Roachey will love this. maybe he’ll know all the answers, as usual, and he’ll be able to say if im a male or female.



10/05/04  11:55pm
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 #156031


Braondt06x
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  Message To: Super_Smash   In reference to Message Id: 155926


 Movin back in....

ok..wow....



10/06/04  7:51am
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 #156032


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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 156031


 Movin back in....

ur a girl, cus on ball-pythons.net in your signature it says angela.

.................................................................

you guys are really weird.



10/06/04  7:57am
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 #156225


Braondt06x
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156032


 Movin back in....

yea lol strange....



10/06/04  3:58pm
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 #156250


Roachey56
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 156225


 Np=no post

np=no post



10/06/04  5:08pm
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 #156526


Super_Smash
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156032


 Movin back in....

good job boababe!!! you feel proud?? :) you should. honest.



10/06/04  10:42pm
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 #156527


JakePRouse
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  Message To: Roachey56   In reference to Message Id: 156250


 Np=no post

Super_Smash ... whats up with this??

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"...when i first got here, i could have critisized everyone on here for the things they said. you’re the only one so far that i’ve seen that actually knows what he’s talking about."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

why say something like that? Do you know everything? I highly doubt that. The thing that erks me is that you said "everyone", not "some" or, "most" which still would have been wrong ... but everyone, other then one person, knows nothing ...

hmmm

can you give some examples of everyone not knowing what they are talking about? ... didn’t think so ...



10/06/04  10:43pm
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 #156530


Pelota
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  Message To: JakePRouse   In reference to Message Id: 156527


 Np=no post

I can’t speak for her. But I’m sure she’s referring to boababe and roachey. Both for their own reasons. Such as Roachey trying to push his ways of keeping snakes on everyone. And Boababe trying to give good advice that might not be best for the snakes. Stuff that works for one person might not work for everyone else. That’s why when I give info I usually look at my experiences, the experiences of others, and what care sheets and sites have taught me over time. Then I put in whatever seems to work best.
I have no problems with anyone here personally. So please love me.



10/06/04  10:48pm
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 #156533


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156530


 Np=no post

Haha k. agreed.... definately didnt mean everyone. what "erks" ME are people like roachey and boababe. Pelota pretty much said what i was thinking... roachey needs to realize its not his way or the highway. people have different ways of keeping snakes and different methods of doing things with them. and boababe? hmmm... dont get me started.

i suppose i shouldn’t have been "harsh," if thats what you’re saying. i actually have no problem with anyone on this site. i just think that theres some false information going around.

p.s. i dont think i know everything, thank you. i never said i did. so if you’d kindly NOT say that about me... yeah, that’d be great. K thanks.



10/06/04  10:52pm
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 #156538


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156530


 Np=no post

Thanks alot Pelota. Maybe I’ll try and give better advice, like Tegugirl0, she gave some wonderful advice. Saying its good to keep a snake and lizard in the same cage. I’ll try and be nore like her.

You know what!? I had no problems wiht anyone here either, until you just now said that. I may be young, but that has nothign to do with my intelegence. Could you please tell me where I gave someone false advice? I am not saying everything I say is right, but you make it sound like i dont know what I am talking about, and I just say random things that are not good for snaeks.

I always look at my answers to, from caresheets, other peoples, and
my own experience. I have had no problems with any of my snakes, and they are doing very well.

By the way, that really hurt my feelings. No one else has ever told me I don’t know what im talking about, and that I give advice thats not good for snakes.



10/06/04  10:58pm
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 #156540


Ballzthebest
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  Message To: Braondt06x   In reference to Message Id: 156031


 Movin back in....

AMEN TO THAT



10/06/04  10:59pm
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 #156541


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156538


 Np=no post

and Super Smash? dont get me started.



10/06/04  10:59pm
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 #156543


Super_Smash
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156538


 Hmmm k

i’m not going back and picking out little places, and im not saying you’re always wrong. Did i say that? Nope. can’t find it. Didnt say you didnt know what you’re talking about, either. ALSO didnt say you gave advice that wasnt good for snakes.

:-)



10/06/04  11:02pm
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 #156544


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Super_Smash   In reference to Message Id: 156543


 Hmmm k

HAHAHAHAHA boababe, just try and hurt my feelings, sweetheart. i dare you...



10/06/04  11:03pm
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 #156545


Ballzthebest
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156541


 Np=no post

what is the best way to get rig of mites from ur ball



10/06/04  11:03pm
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 #156548


Pelota
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156538


 Np=no post

Strange, I don’t remember mentioning anything to do with your age.... A bit self-concious are we? All I was trying to say was I’ve seen a few things from you that may not be the best advice. I don’t remember saying anything about you taking someones advice about keeping a lizard and a snake together....wtf? I mean, come on. I didn’t mean anything by what I said. Thanks for putting words in my mouth trying to make me look like an though. I hardly said anything harsh, so I don’t know why I really hurt your feelings. I mean, firstly, this is just the internet, come on. You shouldn’t take anything serious on the internet. Secondly, why would you lay in on me when I didn’t say much of anything. If you have beef with "Angela" then take it up with her, right?

Love,

"Pelota"



10/06/04  11:04pm
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 #156549


Ballzthebest
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  Message To: Ballzthebest   In reference to Message Id: 156545


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ANYONE? MITES? GET RID OF THE,?



10/06/04  11:05pm
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 #156550


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Ballzthebest   In reference to Message Id: 156545


 Np=no post

soakings, and the mite off stuff.


Super Smash, my original post was to Pelota, she said I was giving advice that wasn’t good for snakes.

you are being really mean maybe I can’t hurt your feelings, but you hurt mine.



10/06/04  11:05pm
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 #156552


Pelota
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156548


 Np=no post

Thirdly, that’s lame that they censored out my big bad swear word. (a$$hole was it. luv)



10/06/04  11:06pm
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 #156554


Super_Smash
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156550


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K. Sorry, right??

p.s. Pelota is a boy.



10/06/04  11:07pm
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 #156555


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156552


 Np=no post

what are you talking about?



10/06/04  11:08pm
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 #156556


Pelota
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156550


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Boababe, read what I said about the internet, hun.



10/06/04  11:08pm
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 #156558


Ballzthebest
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156550


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i keep on useing this snake oil by rubing it on his body, but then i got to pick him up and i find a couple of mites on him. suggestions from anybody



10/06/04  11:09pm
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 #156560


Pelota
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  Message To: Ballzthebest   In reference to Message Id: 156558


 Sorry bud

Sorry dude. Try making a new topic about your mite issues. It’ll get replies better, and be easier to follow. Freaking Super_Smash ruined this cool topic, so it’s all over the place. Pfft



10/06/04  11:11pm
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 #156562


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Ballzthebest   In reference to Message Id: 156558


 Np=no post

if you soak him real well and COMPLETELY clean out his cage, it COULD solve your mite problem.

go here: http://www.vpi.com/9VPITipsAndTechs/TheWarAgainstSnakeMites/TheWarAgainstSnakeMites.html

hope it works :)



10/06/04  11:14pm
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 #156563


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Ballzthebest   In reference to Message Id: 156558


 Np=no post

I am saying, if you think I give bad advice, you should of seen the post where Tegu_girl0 said that it;s perfectly fine to keep your snake and lizard together. No, I didn’t take her advice, and Idont even have a lizard.


But seriously, could you tell me when I said something that is not good for a snake?

And I am not self-conscious, alot of people will be like oh shes a kid, don’t listen to her. I have a problem with you, and supersmash.

What the heck is "Boababe? hmmm....dont get me started"? suposed to mean?



10/06/04  11:14pm
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 #156564


Super_Smash
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156560


 Sorry bud

you love me.



10/06/04  11:14pm
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 #156566


Super_Smash
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156563


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you have a problem with me, eh??? that sucks. if you really want, we can take this up some where else. no use wasting threads on it. :) if you wanna IM me, lemme know. we’ll talk there if you’re so interested in what i have to say.



10/06/04  11:16pm
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 #156567


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Super_Smash   In reference to Message Id: 156566


 Np=no post

click veiw profile under my user name on the left, then contact member. tahts how you do PM’s.



10/06/04  11:17pm
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 #156569


Pelota
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156563


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K, I understand you might not like how some people might think "oh she’s a kid don’t listen to her". But I never mentioned or thought anything like that. To me, age doesn’t matter. As long as the person knows what they’re talking about, that’s cool. :)

And as for telling you specifically what advice you’ve given that might be wrong...since I can’t(or don’t know how to) check back on your previous posts, I can’t find them. Nor can I remember them off the top of my head. One thing recent that I remember is on bp.net when you were telling hockeymom that you’re sure her boa is a peruvian bcc, although it clearly looks like an everyday columbian bci. You said it seemed lighter or something. It’s probably lighter and more vibrant because it’s still a baby. That, and boa’s can change their colors a bit during the day. Sometimes they can be light, other times dark. Like mood rings.



10/06/04  11:19pm
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 #156570


Pelota
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156569


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Aimbot717, IM me on AIM so we can straighten things out, and be friends. No use in ruining(even more) this poor topic.

lol...over 50 replies...



10/06/04  11:21pm
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 #156571


Super_Smash
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 156567


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i said IM. i dont want to PM anyone. too much like email. its too slow. sorry, sugar



10/06/04  11:21pm
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  Message To: Pelota   In reference to Message Id: 156569


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I didn’t say I am sure it was a peruvian, I said "that definatly doesn’t look like a columbian" I know they change colors, mine does all the time, but I had gotten my b.c. manual out, and went to the photo section, and the one hers looked most like were peruvian, and suriname.



10/06/04  11:22pm
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