I was wondring how big dos a ball get and can i house it in a 125 gallen tank? and about how munch a mounth do u need to feed one??

Thanks agan Ryoflex36.

Firstly, thank you for bashing my opinions. I’ll be sure not to share them from now on. *rolls eyes*

Secondly, you asked me how I know they’re stressed out easily in large places....well I can ask you the same. How are you sure they’re not stressed out in large areas? If they werent, they wouldn’t cram themselves into the smallest areas possible in the wild.

Thirdly, I don’t understand why you compared a ball python to several things, like me(a human...), an iguana(totally different reptile, therefore totally different care and characteristics), and whatever else you mentioned. That’s like comparing apples to oranges, so your rebuttal holds little ground.

Also...who’s "we" when you say "we’re trying to make the homes of these pets as realistic as can be"? If you choose to do that or feel that way, then by all means do so. I however, try to keep it safe and simple. Some people just use cereal box hides, newspaper substrate, and a dog dish water bowl. Others use fancy branches, bark, and store bought hides. Does the snake care? I doubt it. As long as the snake has nice tight small hides, proper heat and humidity, and food, it’s fine. Anything aestethic is usually more for the keeper. Oh, and if you’re trying to make their enclosures as realistic as possible, then throw in some mites, parasites, birds of prey, and other stuff that they face in the wild.

And lastly....your statements on keeping a snake in a shoebox with shot glasses and whatever other stupid crap was, well, pathetic and nonsensical. All I said is keeping a snake in a large 80 gallon or whatever tank might not be best unless you fill it with hides and branches and stuff to crowd it. Even then, it makes no sense because in the end it’s going to end up crowded like it would with a smaller cage. I recommended a 30 breeder as a good size cage for a 3-4 foot ball. Where you got that shot glass shoe box crap, I have no clue. You sorta rammed some words in my mouth, huh?

Iguanas and Ball pythons are two totally different species. Ball pythons have tons of predators in the wild from the day they are hatched until the day they die. Iguanas however as they age they have fewer and fewer predators. Iguanas are also lizards, which have a very fast metabolism unlike pythons which have slow metabolism. Lizards need to hunt for food everday, pythons however after getting a meal hide for several hours to several days while digesting food.

You can’t compare a ball python to a human. The differences in our brain, size, habitat, and evolution are extremely different.

Stress may be natural, but that does mean you have to have stress. Something that is natural doesn’t mean it is good. AIDS is natural should we just accept it and not fight for the lives of millions?

I dont know why pelota let you off the hook.

I think im gonna paste here some of the quotable quotes from sir dipsh*t Ryoflex.....

-Did you ask them this and they told you?
(Are you talking about an adult asking a snake a question? Where the F did you get your education?)

-Sorry I just don’t like when people think they know best.
(I cant believe YOU actually said that. Have you read your own posts? I would print out and use your posts as toilet paper, but I cant, you know why? THEY ARE ALREADY SO FULL OF Sh1t!)

- I believe they will eventually realize nothing is comming to get them. And if not I feel deeply sad for them.
(HAHAH LMAO, you feel deeply sad for a ball why is still afraid of predators? That is classic. Haha, sounds like something Bush would say. You are either a comic genius or a moron.)

-I’ll kindergarden you this...
(What f*ing language is that in? First off, it is KINDERGARTEN, somebody who has been there would know that. Secondly, kindergarten is not verb.)

-I could care less about your answere to that more so then pam anderson cared about taking shots to the face.
(what planet are you on?)

How many balls have you got? Obviously many cause it seems you know best. If youre gonna say stupid things say them elsewhere. Im amazed you were able to connect to the internet without parental supervision. Dude, we all come here to help, for help, and for an interesting conversation about balls (that last one sounded dirty). If you want to act like a putz, go do it somewhere else, seriously F off if youre gonna act like a moron and piss people off.

Cheers.

I got ticked off at a guy using stupid concepts to a prove a point. What was that idiot thing he said about keeping a balls in a shoebox with a shot glass full of water. What gave him the idea that this is a bad way to keep snakes. Everybody knows that this is the best way to house snakes, OF ANY SIZE.