Your Reptile and Amphibian Resource and Information Site

Back to Ball Python Forum   Forums   Home   Members Area  

Ball Python Forum

JupiterBP   GA_Ball_Pythons   JupiterBP   GA_Ball_Pythons   Rabernet   GA_Ball_Pythons   JupiterBP   Rabernet   GA_Ball_Pythons   JupiterBP   JupiterBP   SatanicIntention   LoftLizard  
 Member  Message

 #1728105


JupiterBP
View Profile

 Pastave?

Ok, I was doing a little searching online for different morphs, and I saw a mix between a Pastel and a Mojave that they were calling a Pastave. Is that the technical or real term or just one they made up? Also, is this mix often done, and if so, can you point me towards a reputable website so I can read more about it, and also is it very sought after? Lots of questions. I can house a snake, its the breeding that always gets me.
05/07/08  01:54pm

 #1728110


GA_Ball_Pythons
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728105


 Pastave?

I hate the name but this is the one used.

Not sure if it is a thought for combo? Personally I would rather have a Lesser Pastel than a Pastave, just like I would rather have a lesser than a mojave.

Link
05/07/08  02:00pm

 #1728114


JupiterBP
View Profile



   Message To: GA_Ball_Pythons   In reference to Message Id: 1728110


 Pastave?

OK, GA, time to explain yourself. 1. why do you like the lesser better than a mojave? 2. what do you mean by lesser... lesser platinum? 3. what’s a lesser pastel look like?
05/07/08  02:09pm

 #1728125


GA_Ball_Pythons
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728114


 Pastave?

On their own I like the lesser better, just a question of personal taste, I have came across 1 or 2 Mojave that I really like though but in the long run Lesser does it for me, just like I like Black Pastel more than I do Cinnamon.

When it comes to Supers: BEL (Blue Eye Leucistic) there is no comparison, the Super Lesser is much cleaner than the Super Mojave.

I also like the Kingpin better than I do the Jigsaw (Now I know I am confusing you!)

Kingpin = Pinstripe X Lesser
Jigsaw = Pinstripe X Mojave

And here is the Lesser Pastel Link
05/07/08  02:18pm

 #1728132


Rabernet
View Profile



   Message To: GA_Ball_Pythons   In reference to Message Id: 1728125


 Pastave?

Why can’t you just have both GA? A lesser AND a mojave? I personally love the pastel/mojave!



05/07/08  02:26pm

 #1728138


GA_Ball_Pythons
View Profile



   Message To: Rabernet   In reference to Message Id: 1728132


 Pastave?

Quote:

Why can’t you just have both GA?

Because I am trying to stay focus on my projects, so now don’t come distract and tempt me!!!



05/07/08  02:32pm

 #1728139


JupiterBP
View Profile



   Message To: GA_Ball_Pythons   In reference to Message Id: 1728125


 Pastave?

Aren’t you just a dissension starter? Confusing you, eh? When my wife and I went to the Daytona show last year, my wife loved lesser platinums, of course I look at the price and say, wow, Mojaves are so much prettier, lol. From what I’ve seen, lessers are about, what you say, twice that of mojaves? Ouch. not ready for that. I understand their appeal though...
The name Pastave is so cool (if you say it right,) it reminds me of some Italian food. Not that I’d turn a snake into an Italian dish or anything.
05/07/08  02:33pm

 #1728143


Rabernet
View Profile



   Message To: GA_Ball_Pythons   In reference to Message Id: 1728138


 Pastave?

Quote:

Because I am trying to stay focus on my projects, so now don’t come distract and tempt me!!!



You don’t need ME to distract you! SIXTEEN DAYS!!!!!!!
05/07/08  02:40pm

 #1728144


GA_Ball_Pythons
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728139


 Pastave?

The bottome line is to get what YOU like and what you can afford, I pick my snakes according to what I like or the coombos I want to achieve and Majave don’t fit my projects as of now, but you know what they say never say never



05/07/08  02:41pm

 #1728147


JupiterBP
View Profile



   Message To: GA_Ball_Pythons   In reference to Message Id: 1728144


 Pastave?

Well, maybe the way things work out, in about 4 years you might be coming to me wondering if for old times sake you can get a Pastave.



05/07/08  02:47pm

 #1728192


JupiterBP
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728147


 Pastave?

Ok, let me get this straight oh gene gurus... A pastel can affect a dominant gene because it is a co-dominate. But yet it still reacts to a codom the same way. That makes no sense to me. I understand codoms working together, but not codoms working with doms. I guess I’m just slow concerning genes. I really don’t like not knowing, and I love learning...
05/07/08  03:24pm

 #1728225


SatanicIntention
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728192


 Pastave?

I want Lesser Platinums because they make much cleaner Blue-Eyed Leucistics than Mojaves do. A male Lesser can be had for $900-1200 right now, so why not..



05/07/08  03:45pm

 #1728253


LoftLizard
View Profile



   Message To: JupiterBP   In reference to Message Id: 1728192


 Pastave?

Quote:

The name Pastave is so cool



I like Pastave, but I also really like the snake produced... and I never understood why people hate the name so much? In all honestly I think the world would be a simpler place if people just used the name of the combo.

Especailly when you have several breeders producing the same snake, calling them by different name, and none of the names actually tell you what the snake is. :)

I have also heard them called Motels MO(jave)(pas)TEL.

But another name, rarely used for pastels, in an Opel... so I prefer to call them MOOPs. MO(jave)OP(el)... not sure it will ever catch on though.

As far as codoms and doms working together... with one of each... they are both going to be expressed. So any different dom and codom combination there will be an expression of each. *usually* with both being expressed equaly so that you can imagine what the combo will look like if you know how the individual genes are expressed.

I.e. Yellow belly or pastel combos tend to be predictable.

The tricky ones are the combos that make the Lucies... those will actually mix and match.. and different combos will create the same effect as the super version. I think GA mentioned the combos that make a Blue-EL above.

bruce



05/07/08  04:02pm


Back to Ball Python Forum   Forums   Home   Members Area