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 #1871044


Mrs istre
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 Handling new young BP’s

"Hi everyone. I just bought a BP about 4 days ago. Its a male, very beautiful patterns. Anyway when I bought him, I also bought his tank and accesories. Most people say snakes dont like to be handled, well he loves to be hand held, everytime I get close to his tank he comes to the side closer to me. over these 4 days we’ve become very close, he has never tried to bite me or hiss at me. Did I just get luckey???
09/29/08  08:47pm

 #1871052


LoftLizard
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   Message To: Mrs istre   In reference to Message Id: 1871044


 Handling new young BP’s

You know he *loves* this after 4 days... you’ll have to teach me that trick someday.

Bruce
09/29/08  08:55pm

 #1871063


LoftLizard
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   Message To: Mrs istre   In reference to Message Id: 1871044


 Handling new young BP’s

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"Hi everyone. I just bought a BP about 4 days ago. Its a male, very beautiful patterns. Anyway when I bought him, I also bought his tank and accesories. Most people say snakes dont like to be handled, well he loves to be hand held, everytime I get close to his tank he comes to the side closer to me. over these 4 days we’ve become very close, he has never tried to bite me or hiss at me. Did I just get luckey???



First I figured I would give you a glib response and walk away. Based on your previous posts I assume you will ask for advice and when NO ONE agrees with you, you’ll likely get all bent out of shape and vehemently state that your BP is the exception and that it loves you and loves to be handled.

But then I figured, you may learn something, or someone reading this thread may learn something. So I will offer an opinion.

Take the advice or don’t. Disagree or agree. It’s your choice...

You can think your snake loves to be handled, but it doesn’t. Snakes tolerate handling.

You have had it for 4 days, and it should not be touched for a MINIMUM of 7 days and not till after at least one successful feeding. I do not handle any new additions till after 4 feeds.

You have a baby snake, if it is busy and active and travelling around... it is not trying to get to you, it is a stressed out baby snake that has been through a lot of changes and is trying to get away from you.

Stress in BPs is cumulative, and if you continue to handle it before it is feeding and has had an appropriate acclimation, you may very well be "loving it to death".

If you want it feeding and healthy, then put it down and walk away for at least a week and when it has had several successful feeds then start with small handling sessions and build up.

I will be very surprised if this snake feeds for you with vigour.

Bruce
09/29/08  09:12pm

 #1871246


Mrs istre
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   Message To: LoftLizard   In reference to Message Id: 1871063


 Handling new young BP’s

"I think i know my own snake, how can it want to get away from me when he’s always coming towards me? lol Are you saying his direction is off? Maybe you wait a week after they are born, maybe it just takes that long to warm up to you, who knows? But mine is pretty cool and I think I reconize when somethings trying to get away from me, and btw Im not all bent out of shape, and the only person who disagrees with me is you. No one else has said anything and by the way you jumped on my post and judged it to death that youve been here awhile and have said something rude to everyone newbie who doesent talk the right talk about their BP. lol its funny because you think because youve handled a couple Bps that youre some sort of python expert. I guess you know them all right? I guess that little boy in Africa thinks that his anaconda is special & sweet enough not to eat him whole or attack him, but he’s wrong right??? He should back off and wait about 7 days? Right? LOL He lays on that huge anaconda, plays with him, pokes him in the eye, ect... But to an expert like you, thats not possible. Anyway Im not saying my BP wants to walk with me down the street, go to the store, take a ride with me or braid my hair. ALL i said is he dont mind me holding him and I let him loose on me and he never tries to hide or get away, Im no expert that I think that qualifies as him liking me...lol doesent take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. And if it does, you’re not a rocket scientist..."
09/30/08  05:06am

 #1871247


Mrs istre
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   Message To: Mrs istre   In reference to Message Id: 1871246


 Handling new young BP’s

"not a week after he’s born, I meant a week after getting him, let me correct myself before snake boy Bruce(expert) gets excited... I bet he’s waiting to jump on that one..."
09/30/08  05:08am

 #1871251


LoftLizard
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   Message To: Mrs istre   In reference to Message Id: 1871247


 Handling new young BP’s

I am not getting that excited, I really do not care what you do to your snake.

But after 4 days you do not know that snake and he is not bonded to you. You may be bonded to him, but he does not give you a second thought. He is not a puppy or kitten.

He is displaying classic signs of stress and you will interpret that as *love*... hopefully you will be able to read things about BPs and rather than look for the opposite in yours you will learn how to read it as when he gets sick you will need to be able to spot signs of illness in him.

Perhaps you’ll just release him and some domestic rodents into the shed if he gets to be a concern?

Bruce
09/30/08  05:33am

 #1871256


Mrs istre
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   Message To: LoftLizard   In reference to Message Id: 1871251


 Handling new young BP’s

"first of all, I wasent talking to you, and the rat snake was wild already, but he hadnt eaten in a long time, so we bought him food and got him healthy, if you have a problem with that then dont respond to what I tell other people, keep your whiney opinions to yourself. It sickens me that Ive come across a snake owner who doesent beleive in helping wild snakes. What? they arent important enough cause they are wild????????? Get off my screen, and go rethink you’re prioritys."
09/30/08  05:50am

 #1871280


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   Message To: Mrs istre   In reference to Message Id: 1871256


 Handling new young BP’s

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But after 4 days you do not know that snake and he is not bonded to you. You may be bonded to him, but he does not give you a second thought. He is not a puppy or kitten.



Reptiles don’t love they tolerate and Bruce was just trying to state the facts. You shouldn’t handle your snake for 7 days after purchase. Well that outta the way congrats on your new ball :D
09/30/08  07:11am

 #1871350


Isabela
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   Message To: Bishop   In reference to Message Id: 1871280


 Handling new young BP’s

Why ask for help and then attack anyone that tries giving it?
If you have done any research whatsoever on ball pythons you’d see that Loftlizard was only trying to help you and that the info that he gave you was indeed, true.

After owning a ball python for 4 days how can you possibly denounce the people that have been in the hobby for years and years claiming that you know more about snakes then them? Maybe your snake isn’t running away from you because its terrified and has taken to freezing up instead? After four days can one really get to know anything that well? But maybe you’re right that your snake doesn’t mind being handled but why even come on here to post when you can’t take the advice from people that know MUCH MUCH more than you?

Well I guess it doesn’t matter anymore because you’ve already managed to get on the bad side of all the "experts" on the forum so you can just keep on believing whatever you want to believe! Because that’s what you want and what you’re going to do anyway, right?



09/30/08  10:09am

 #1871368


Eves Ball Pythons
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   Message To: Isabela   In reference to Message Id: 1871350


 Handling new young BP’s

Good luck to you-& especially your BP. With your attitude, it will need it.
09/30/08  10:34am

 #1871370


WorkoutMachine
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   Message To: Isabela   In reference to Message Id: 1871350


 Handling new young BP’s

This was very comical and entertaining to read....

Mrs istre, I feel sorry for you in that you come on here and ask for advice, but then you can’t take any constructive criticism....



09/30/08  10:35am

 #1871466


Mrs istre
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   Message To: WorkoutMachine   In reference to Message Id: 1871370


 Handling new young BP’s

"glad I can entertain, if you took the time to notice, it was an insult. Did you read the 1st part or did u just jump into this convo blinde like you usually do? I can take advice, but I will not take somebody trying to make a fool of me, and the next thing youll say, is your making a fool of yourself, I guess cause saying that makes you feel better cause you have a point to prove to your fellow expert friends. DOES OWNING MORE THAN ONE bp MAKE YOU AN EXPERT, if so Im about to buy another one so maybe now I can join your group and tell other people in a very rude way that they are wrong and try to make them look stupid because they’re not in my little group! Its pathetic..."
09/30/08  12:56pm


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