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Marg View Profile |
Here’s a new post :o) This is going to be a long post... Please read through Everything!!!! This by no means is set in stone... just the guide lines I have used for the past 4 years, with no problems If you have a Question... Please make a New Post, so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) You can use Glass Tanks, Wood Built, or Rubber-Maid containers... Here’s a Link for some nice containers... very clear looking - like glass - seem a bit expensive, but may be less than glass tanks. Or you can find cheaper ones at a dollar store or wal-mart. Just make sure you have All the right equipment needed! (found at Wal-Mart [Hardware dept - $11.88] - Lowes, Home Depot, etc for less than $15) (Dial and "Stick On" gauges are Crap) the probe from the therm/hydrometer goes IN the Warm Side Hide - the unit goes In the cool side, Inside the tub/tank.
Warm Side: between 90f - 94f (32.22C - 34.44 C) Cool Side:between 80f - 84f (26.67 C - 28.89 C) Humidity: between 50-60% (70% when in shed) *although some prefer to use lower temps, but personally, I would not go too much lower. the Probe goes Inside the Warm hide (dont attach it to the hide - makes for a pain when cleaning) again... The Unit goes on cool side... near the bottom of enclosure In temp = Cool side temp Out temp = Warm side temp Bottom Reading = Humidity Level Controlled by a Thermostat, or a dimmer switch at the least! __________ NO Heat Rocks!!! Snakes do not have the nervous system like we do, and they can not tell if some thing is too hot, until it is too Late. Snakes absorb heat through their belly. However, they do not have the nervous system We do... and do not know when too hot is too hot ...until it is too Late! They will lay on something that is warm, until it is too hot, too late, and they get burned. Belly Burn is Nasty, Unhealthy, and can be Very Costly!!! (to both you and the snake) __________ preferably Identical, so that they do not choose comfort over temps, and no log hides... they do not provide the security a BP needs (too wide open), and will allow heat to escape from inside the hide, where belly heat is provided/needed. to help the snake feel more secure... especially if you Insist on using a Larger Enclosure. Most of us using glass enclosures have some sort of background, mine is a piece of cloth that I found, with greenery pattern on it. Where the head goes, so will the body! (Sand will dry them out, get in their mouths and under scales and cause infection) Many use news paper,some use shelf liner, cypress mulch, etc. - No Contact Paper in the enclosure - Please, please read Care Sheets Link, preferably Before getting Any snake!!! With Proper Care... Most snakes can live 20-30 years :o) and depending on how Small, a 5 gallon would work as well. giving it more space, but not too much. Some prefer bigger, when they are full grown, but not required. Especially with hatchlings/babies! such as Bad Sheds, Not feeding, etc. When the time comes for a 20 gal Tank... the "long" size may be better, as BPs do not climb. Be sure you have All the equipment needed, and have your enclosure set up at Least 48 hours Prior to getting Any snake. I don’t use tubs or racks, so I can not give a lot of info on that... Here’s a Link, from the Corn forum, but has some basic info on tubs, racks, flexwatt tape, etc. UTH on one side, Thermostat/Dimmer Switch, therm/hydrometer in cool side, 2 hides, etc. and or temp/humidity control and need "Binder Clips", to secure the sides of the lid(s) If some one wants to add info about "Tubbing It" or if anyone want to add anything else, feel free... Quote: Anyone Needing Small/Shoebox tubs
(for babies/hatchlings, or just storing stuff - LoL) I was at "Dollar Tree" (a US - Nationwide Chain), and they have them (6 quart, I think (?), for a buck! I do not remember if they had any bigger than that... Quote: Please keep this bumped for newbies!!!
Quote: And before this goes any further...
This goes for Everyone... If you have a Question... Please make a New Post, so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) Think I covered most of it... Marg |
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| 03/20/09 07:58pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971927 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
Care Sheets |
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| 03/20/09 08:09pm |
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Flameethrower View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
I just could never find it to bump it up. |
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| 03/20/09 11:11pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SOME TUB INFO...
under 400-500grams goes in a 15 qt tub aprox 400/500-1500 grams a 32 qt tub, and 1500 grams and up goes in the 41 qt tub. Some may be bumped up to a bigger tub sooner then others, depends on the snake... |
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| 03/21/09 12:33pm |
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Flameethrower View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1972198 * * SOME TUB INFO...
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| 03/21/09 12:36pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SCALES AND OTHER EQUIPMENT...
Discussion on tank set up, camoflauge, placing Therm/hydrometer probe, etc... For Rats, click on the Home tab, then Rats |
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| 03/21/09 12:54pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971927 * * PROBE INFO...
A: The reason the In and out temps seem backwards is because the unit is intended to be used as so: You would mount the unit next to a door/window (of a house), the probe wire would be threaded through a window/door jam to read Outside temps. Which would be the sensor reading "out" (Outside), and the unit/box reading "in" (inside the home). Make sence? LoL |
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| 03/21/09 12:59pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1972208 * * PROBE PLACEMENT...
old pic, more stuff in them now. Unit goes in cool side (inside enclosure, 2" from bottom) Wire thingy with probe goes in warm side hide. Reads like so: In: cool side temps Out: warm side temps humidity- bottom reading |
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| 03/21/09 01:05pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
Let’s not make this into a debating post!!!... no arguing please... If you have a problem with some thing, or some one’s reply, Please make a New post, or take it to PM :o) I will be adding things as I find more info... so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) Quote: If you have a Question... Please make a New Post... so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) |
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| 03/21/09 01:13pm |
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Flameethrower View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1972217 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
U M P |
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| 03/23/09 12:48am |
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: Flameethrower In reference to Message Id: 1973147 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 03/23/09 09:07am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: VypyrByk In reference to Message Id: 1973222 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
Be sure to make a New post with pics |
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| 03/23/09 05:08pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: VypyrByk In reference to Message Id: 1973222 * * Thermostat...
I have had it for 3 yrs, and only need to adjust it when the weather/season changes. It is a Dial Type Thermostat. Some do not care for these, or even this particular Brand... but it works for me :o) You can plug 2 UTHs/heat sources into the unit, but if you use this type, make sure the wattage is ok for the unit.
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| 03/23/09 05:29pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931
Marg |
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| 03/24/09 06:38am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 03/25/09 07:45pm |
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1974694 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 03/27/09 08:06am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1972217 * * UTH PLACEMENT... and Heat Lamps
help and discuss a few things with Glass Enclosure Set Ups... How to place the UTH
Place the UTH "long ways" from the end, as shown in the pic. The UTH should be no more than Half of the length of the enclosure (1/3 is recommended), and as wide as possible, to the width. "Wide as possible" because you need heat in the warm side, other than In the hide. If you just have a UTH that is only as wide as the Hide, you will have problems heating the Entire Enclosure. I think this is where most people have temp issues! If the UTH is only as wide as the hide, you will only getting heat in the hide. If you have a UTH that is Wider than the hide, you have heat under/in the whole of the enclosure. Kinda like having a "space heater", You have a "space heater" pointing toward you in a cold room... you are warm... but the rest of the room is cold. Make sence? My tanks are larger than recommended, but they work for Me... does Not mean large enclosures will work for Everyone. My enclosures are 36" x 18" x 18" (40 gal "Critter Cages"). The UTH I use is 11" x 17" ( Ultratherm UTHs ) I have a UTH that covers about half the enclosure floor (1/3 - 1/2 is recommended), Controlled by a Thermostat. Water bowls over a UTH tend to aid in build up of bacteria. You can place the water dish over the UTH area, but It is not recommend. If you wash the bowl Daily, which you should anyway, that would be ok... but that slimey film that builds up in the bottom of the bowl... well... yuk.! I wouldn’t drink from a slimey glass... nor give it to my cat :o) Same goes for Heat Lamps... They will also cause bacteria build up, and slimey film. Heat lamps should only be used If yo can Not reach desired temps, with using only a UTH. I do on occassion use a heat lamp, but I only turn on, to less than half (with a dimmer switch), when it is extremely cold out side (have only had to use the it 3 times the whole winter). Quote: If you have a Question... Please make a New Post... so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) |
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| 03/28/09 02:48pm |
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ReptiGal94 View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1976092 * * UTH PLACEMENT... and Heat Lamps
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| 03/29/09 11:16am |
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: ReptiGal94 In reference to Message Id: 1976516
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| 03/30/09 09:07pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1974694 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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Edf View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971927 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1979185 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: VypyrByk In reference to Message Id: 1979355 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 04/05/09 09:57pm |
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: VypyrByk In reference to Message Id: 1980785 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 04/07/09 06:50pm |
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VypyrByk View Profile |
Message To: VypyrByk In reference to Message Id: 1981899 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 04/10/09 04:20pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1971931 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 04/11/09 03:07pm |
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Lpdjstitch View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1984137 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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| 04/11/09 09:29pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Lpdjstitch In reference to Message Id: 1984352 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
(if you scroll Up, there is a section on UTH’s, and placement) Heat lamps tend to dry out humidity. As I said... Quote: * * UTH PLACEMENT... and Heat Lamps If you just have a UTH that is only as wide as the Hide, you will have problems heating the Entire Enclosure. I think this is where most people have temp issues! If the UTH is only as wide as the hide, you will only getting heat in the hide. If you have a UTH that is Wider than the hide, you have heat under/in the whole enclosure. Kinda like having a "space heater", You have a "space heater" pointing toward you in a cold room... you are warm... but the rest of the room is cold. Make sence? As a Reminder... Quote: If you have a Question... Please make a New Post... so that it does not get over looked as some one bumping the thread :o) Luckily... Some of read before bumping :o) |
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Vypyrz View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1984734 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Vypyrz In reference to Message Id: 1984985 * * SETTING UP YOUR ENCLOSURE...
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