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#199260
Roxmysox99
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 20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
What lenght should a BP be when i switch it to something bigger that a 20 gallon long??Also i have aspen bedding and with a Rubbermaid (6in high by 12 inches in circumference) and its a circle and see through (close to see through) and its upside down with a hole in it for a hide so i was wondering if i should paint the hide black so the snake feels more secure and so the snake knows that its a hide?? and can i just paint the Rubbermaid or will it be bad for the snake (smell, texture, ect.)?? Maleeh
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12/14/04 10:01pm
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#199449
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Roxmysox99 In reference to Message Id: 199260
 20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
personaly i think the bp should be able to strech fully out plus some. And for the hide hole you can go to the pet store and get rock(hollow in side) with a entrance so the bp can peek out . i hope you no what i meen the rock is made for reptiles and its only $20.00.
see ya!
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12/15/04 3:31am
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#199452
Pelota
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Message To: Roxmysox99 In reference to Message Id: 199260
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
3 feet by 2 feet is enough space for a full grown ball python. As for hides, just go to walmart or a garden store place, and get some clay flower pot bases and knock an entrance hole in the side with a hammer. They’re perfect for ball pythons, since they like low, snug fitting hides. The hides you can get from pet stores are junk.Go HERE to read up on correct hide spots for snakes. And I’d advise you not paint a rubbermaid container. Too many complications can arise. I’d just get the clay pot bottoms. They’re probably the best hides you could use, and are cheap. I picked up 4 of them(different sizes) for a dollar each at Walmart. Just pick some that look just big enough for your snake to coil up into tightly.
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12/15/04 4:56am
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#199454
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 199452
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
tell me why the rocks from pet stores are junk? 
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12/15/04 5:16am
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#199498
Roxmysox99
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 199454
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
so use a flower base as a hide... i get it... but whats the maximun for it to live in a 20 gallon long???Maleeh
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12/15/04 9:16am
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#199513
Munkyboy
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Message To: Roxmysox99 In reference to Message Id: 199498
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Opinions will vary on this one, however I would say 42in. would be the maximum size that should be kept in a 20ga. If you can find a 40ga. breeder tank, that should be sufficient for the rest of it’s life. 
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12/15/04 9:49am
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#199573
U1sickboy
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Message To: Munkyboy In reference to Message Id: 199513
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
I believe a 40 gal breeder and a 30 gal breeder have the same floor space, The 40 gal is just a little taller.......I keep some of my Ball pythons in 30 gal breeders.
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12/15/04 1:28pm
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#199906
Milkkid
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 199454
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Pet store rocks are junk because you can get something just as good or better for like less than a dollar.
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12/15/04 11:57pm
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#199981
Pelota
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Message To: Milkkid In reference to Message Id: 199906
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Not to mention those pet store hides are usually too tall or big for a snake. Most snakes(atleast BP’s) like low, snug fitting hiding spots. That’s why I, and others, will recommend the clay flower pot bases. I know if I had a growing snake, I’d rather buy a bunch of different sized flower pot bases for 6 dollars, rather than dropping 10-20 dollars for one hide because it’s fancy looking. 
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12/16/04 5:52am
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#200204
Roxmysox99
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 199981
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
So should i keep a Adult BP in a 30 gallon breeder or a 40 gallon breeder??Maleeh
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12/16/04 7:04pm
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#200248
Roachey56
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Message To: Roxmysox99 In reference to Message Id: 200204
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
30 breedercheaper
lighter
no need for extra height
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12/16/04 8:21pm
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#200310
Roxmysox99
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Message To: Roachey56 In reference to Message Id: 200248
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
about how much do 30 gallon breeders run with out shipping??Maleeh
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12/16/04 10:29pm
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#200410
Pelota
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Message To: Roxmysox99 In reference to Message Id: 200310
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
I have no clue. I’d just get a rubbermaid container of equal size. It’s just easier and cheaper.
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12/17/04 4:30am
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#200740
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 199981
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Thats funny my BPs love the rock infact they never come out,Except for night.
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12/17/04 7:39pm
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#200930
Pelota
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 200740
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Well of course they’ll use it. A hide is a hide, right? But I’m just saying they might be less stressed out with the small low tight fitting hides.
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12/18/04 2:55am
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#200933
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200930
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
HEY! MY SNAKES ARE NOT STRESSED OUT, EVERY BODY FOLLOWS EVERY THING BY THE BOOK AND IT’S BULL MY SNAKES LOVE THE ROCK, THERE HOME, THERE LIVE MICE. (THATS PROBLEY WHY MY SNAKES ARE NOT PUSSYS)
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12/18/04 3:07am
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#200942
Pelota
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 200933
Ball Python
Removed By System
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12/18/04 3:21am
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#200944
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200942
Ball Python
Removed By System
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12/18/04 3:30am
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#200946
Pelota
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 200944
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Almost 20 years old, but I can handle myself as a much more mature person. Which is more than I can say for you.Where did I say you’re doing "everything" wrong? All I said was I prefer to use the clay pot bottoms, as they are low and snug, which is what ball pythons like. I didn’t say you’re horrible and are doing everything wrong. I don’t know where you got that from. All I’m saying is I’d rather pay 6 bucks for a bunch of different sized clay pot hides and be set for a long time, rather than dish out 10-20 dollars for ONE hide, and have to buy multiples down the road. It’s a lot of money, and they’re not exactly built for a ball pythons security needs. Use what you wish. I don’t care. I was simply stating my opinion. I’m sorry you had to take what I said way out of context and start a heated argument for no reason. Have a good weekend.
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12/18/04 3:40am
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#200950
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200946
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
I’m working all weekend.
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12/18/04 3:54am
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#200953
Pelota
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Message To: SNAKE In reference to Message Id: 200950
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Have fun earning that money then.
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12/18/04 3:59am
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#200954
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200953
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Thats the only thing i’m here for. 
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12/18/04 4:09am
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#200955
SNAKE EYES
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200953
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
Thats the only thing i’m here for.
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12/18/04 4:10am
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#201097
Roachey56
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 200953
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
WOAH.....
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12/18/04 1:40pm
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#201244
Pelota
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Message To: Roachey56 In reference to Message Id: 201097
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
lol...WHAT!?
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12/18/04 5:30pm
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#201660
Roachey56
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Message To: Pelota In reference to Message Id: 201244
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
how did all that happen....wow
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12/19/04 12:33pm
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#202160
Pelota
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Message To: Roachey56 In reference to Message Id: 201660
20 Gallon For A Ball Python??
People hate me.  That’s how.
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12/20/04 5:39am
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