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 #2189068


Pat R.
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 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

$250.00 for a pastel that they call "a fancy ball python" lol http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3893728
11/22/10  09:42pm

 #2189083


Serpentshideaway
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   Message To: Pat R.   In reference to Message Id: 2189068


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Wow i dont see why theyre selling morphs in the first place they call most of their corn snakes as fancy corn snakes most look like normals to me but any how that is dumb to me
11/22/10  11:41pm

 #2189104


Edf
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   Message To: Pat R.   In reference to Message Id: 2189068


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

you are gonna start seeing morphs in petstmart, i have yet to see pastels in my petsmart. Yeah, high price tag, but that common forpet stores
11/23/10  07:43am

 #2189129


Rick247
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2189104


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

250 is not bad for a nice big bright female. I would not buy from pet smart anyways. I think it is a shame pastels go for what they do. I paid 650 (this probally pisses others off too) for my first male pastel. It is hard to move a male pastel becase people have devauled these anmials. Now none wants to waste time buying a male pastel when you can’t get anything outta of the babies. I am glad they have the high price tag.



11/23/10  11:34am

 #2189131


Rick247
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   Message To: Rick247   In reference to Message Id: 2189129


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Also if somone comes in and buys the snake then who is dumb the person buying it or the one selling it. Anyone going to breed needs to look at both sides of the markets. Someday it will be you trying to sell that pastel.
11/23/10  11:36am

 #2189144


ColdBlooded666
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   Message To: Pat R.   In reference to Message Id: 2189068


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

I have yet to even see a Ball Python in the Petsmart near me. Now Petco, they’re the ones with the snakes. It’s pretty bad that they are selling a little normal Columbian Red Tail boa for $175 when you can get one from a breeder or expo for like $50. Of course, my petco near me does take good care of their animals, prices are a bit steep but at least they’re taken care of.

Gonna be calling them today actually about my job app.
11/23/10  12:31pm

 #2189150


Brodeur4life30
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   Message To: ColdBlooded666   In reference to Message Id: 2189144


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

The PetCo here had a pastel they were selling for $300. Poor thing basically sat in a tank for 5 months and looked awful. No one who goes to a place like that for a "pet" is going to want to spend $300. At least not where I live. Last time I went in there, it was gone. I hope to God someone bought him/her and they didn’t die. :(
If I’d have had the room, or the money, I’d have taken them home in a heartbeat.
11/23/10  01:29pm

 #2189171


BoaDude
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   Message To: Brodeur4life30   In reference to Message Id: 2189150


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

I dislike the large chain pet shops. We cant begin to count how many rescues our family got from ignorant buyers who listen to the "pet people" at these places. People who tell them heat rocks are great for a snake, then wonder why the snake has burns all over. It wouldnt be so bad if theyd teach there staff to give the correct info.

Another issue I have with any pet shop is they push to SELL and dont care for the animal while its there. They over charge,under care for and send you home with all the wrong info. {just my experiance}
11/23/10  03:21pm

 #2189204


JessiM
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   Message To: BoaDude   In reference to Message Id: 2189171


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

i agree that these pet stores are completely idiotic... i got a parrot from there... over priced of course

i got him as a "fancy green cheeked conure" but he wasnt even a green cheek conure.. he was a totally different species!! a uncommon brown throat conure and he was soo emaciated and sick that we almost lost him twice!

ive seen "fancy boas" and "fancy turtles" and all that at these petstores... sigh



11/23/10  06:24pm

 #2189207


Reflex
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   Message To: Rick247   In reference to Message Id: 2189129


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Chances are, they are not high quality animals. Why would a breeder sell their animals to pet stores if they could sell it directly to someone for a lot more money? Because nobody wants their low quality animal, perhaps. Plus, no guarantees they will even let you pop the animal to see if it is female... the stress of pet store display cage life... being underfed and probably mistreated....

Yeah, not worth it.
11/23/10  06:58pm

 #2189210


RichsBallPythons
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   Message To: Reflex   In reference to Message Id: 2189207


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

OVER HEAD.

Pet store prices is to cover, food, employee care and paychecks. You go to a breeder as their over head is no where near a pet stores that has employees and such.

Id have no problem paying a higher price for a clean pastel. Cheaper means nothing but hurting the hobby your entering.
11/23/10  07:18pm

 #2189214


Reflex
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   Message To: RichsBallPythons   In reference to Message Id: 2189210


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

I’m not talking about the price of the animal, I’m talking about the quality of the morph and the "care" many pet stores give their animals that makes it not worth buying from them (not because it’s $250). IF the animal is actually taken care of and is a clean looking animal, I’d say it’s absolutely worth it. But I have seen many dead and dying animals in pet shops (ball pythons included) due to mistreatment, and I absolutely believe in avoiding buying anything from pet stores at all costs. And no, I’m not talking about animals who LOOK dead in cages, I have personally asked to look at the animals and handled snakes that had been dead for so long they were rock solid and stiff.
11/23/10  07:36pm

 #2189246


Nate304
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   Message To: Reflex   In reference to Message Id: 2189214


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

its true in california petsmart does sell pastells"fancy" for a huge gross price. normals are also insane priced
11/23/10  11:41pm

 #2189257


BoaDude
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   Message To: Nate304   In reference to Message Id: 2189246


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

I can understand the price issues {higher price pays the store to stay open} BUT I dont understand how you pay and employee to know 0 about the pets {AT a pet store} Or why you would trust a person to sell you a pet when its visible they know squat about it. If I were these chain stores Id at least give these people a book {wich if Im correct they sell IN store?} and have them know the basics...or at the very least hand the book to the customer.


There are good mom and pop pet stores around. I think the chain stores ahve lost whats important, the well being of the animals they sell. For me theres to many that need homes to buy one {as much as Id love to have the morphs, Id rather save a life}
11/24/10  02:37am

 #2189258


Edf
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   Message To: Rick247   In reference to Message Id: 2189129


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Quote:

250 is not bad for a nice big bright female.



I am not argueing with ya- I can see where I may have been mistaken as saying pastels are cheap and deserve to be cheap. I agree with you that the nice bright and clean ones ( well, add tons of blushing IMO) are worth much more. Its sad that pastels prices have dropped, but some, the ones that look practically like normals, really arent worth that much. Heck, I had bought a male pastel for 150 last year, and he was worth it, when i am seeing them this year for 50-75 dollars. I would still pay a higher price for a quality pastel. But I agree, cheap quality pastels are indeed, cheap. High quality ones, and more expensive.

Sorry if my first initial postmade it seem I thought all pastels should be cheap. It was more along the lines you can get them cheaper from breeders- and as others have sytated, with a guarentee, and propably in better health.
11/24/10  02:39am

 #2189621


Bbbx18boyyy
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2189258


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

i went to petco today to get a ball python normal but when i got there they had a black friday sale for 50 percent off so i got for 40 and its realy active i have yet to feed him yet . my other ball pythons that are adult i feed small birds and chipmunks and mice that i shoot with my pellet gun
11/26/10  09:47pm

 #2189625


Serpentshideaway
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   Message To: Bbbx18boyyy   In reference to Message Id: 2189621


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

You really shouldnt feed them wild animals nor should you feed them animals shot with a pellet gun



11/26/10  11:02pm

 #2189632


RichsBallPythons
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   Message To: Serpentshideaway   In reference to Message Id: 2189625


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Ignore him hes a Troll
11/27/10  12:19am

 #2189740


Tarkah
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   Message To: RichsBallPythons   In reference to Message Id: 2189632


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

on a breeder’s/genetics perspective why are pastel males not as useful?

here in Canada we still only have normals for really high prices.

personally i think it’s not a bad thing that the petstore prices are that high.
At least this will stop impulse buyers from walking in seeing a cheap snake and buying it. $300 pastel versus say $150 at a breeders.

impulse buyers will not buy it just cause its pretty and cheap. If they are going to buy from a breeder they have most likely researched and took the time to find the breeder in the first place.



11/27/10  08:59pm

 #2189843


Bbbx18boyyy
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   Message To: Tarkah   In reference to Message Id: 2189740


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

your a troll you a-hole


it shoots steel pellets so they are non toxic and why shoudent i feed them wild animals thats what they eat in the wild and thousands of people eat wild deer and its actualy better for you the wild animals eat all natural food or frozen mice ewwww they are feed dog food
11/28/10  05:55pm

 #2189865


Serpentshideaway
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   Message To: Bbbx18boyyy   In reference to Message Id: 2189843


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

Lets see wild rodents are diseased and may have poisens on them that could kill your snakes thats why i mean if you wanna risk that or expensive vet bills by all means continue to feed them that but from a health stand point it aint worth the risk and if you dont want to feed rodents that have been fed dog food raise them yourself and feed them rodent food sheesh
11/28/10  07:13pm

 #2189871


RichsBallPythons
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   Message To: Serpentshideaway   In reference to Message Id: 2189865


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

If you keep responding ot him you will continue his quest to irritate you guys. He is a troll who just registered and has 2 posts.

IGNORE HIM
11/28/10  07:28pm

 #2190029


Bbbx18boyyy
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   Message To: RichsBallPythons   In reference to Message Id: 2189871


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

thanks i think ill start to breed mice i did before and had sucess


i registerd back in 08 when i had my corn snake and leopard gekos then got into dirt bikeing but know im starting to get back into reptiles and i lost my pass and forgot my email know i started a new one because i gave away my corn snake and got a ball python and im deciding on what to get for christmas a bearded dragon or warter dragon or some other mediem sized lizard because i just picked up a used 75 gallon tank for 100 but looks brand new
11/29/10  04:14pm

 #2190735


IguanaRama
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   Message To: Bbbx18boyyy   In reference to Message Id: 2190029


 A new reason to call Petsmart dumb

lol I hope you realize if you get a water dragon their cage requirements when they become an adult surpass a 75 gallon tank you’re better off with a bearded dragon unless your willing to dump the money into building a big enough enclosure for a WD.
12/03/10  09:56am


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