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 #2218120


Froeni
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 Spider ball

hey, I was just wondering what this whole spider gene thing is all about, I mean I know what it looks nice and its nice and all but what is up with this wobble thing in the head and flipping over and all that stuff.... I’d like to read you guy’s opinions and experiences on it, thanks!!

another reason why I wanna know about this is because I am looking into buying a bumblebee and well I want to know about it before i get it.
05/09/11  12:57am

 #2218124


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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2218120


 Spider ball

It is just something they are prone to. Some get it so bad it hinders their ability to eat, while others have it less noticeable. But most, if not all, get it.
05/09/11  02:03am

 #2218125


Froeni
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   Message To: That_dc5   In reference to Message Id: 2218124


 Spider ball

woah that really blows..... now im going to concider not buying a Bumblebee then.... ill prob just stick to a mojave or something with high yellow .... and not too pricy....
05/09/11  02:31am

 #2218158


Rick247
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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2218125


 Spider ball

Hold a spider first. Then make your choice.



05/09/11  10:19am

 #2218613


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   Message To: Rick247   In reference to Message Id: 2218158


 Spider ball

Some are trainwrecks, some arent bad. Some don’t develope it til later in life.... some just have a slight head tilt, or you will only notice it when just about to feed, or its really roaming at night, and still, it may not be that bad.

Just ask whom you are buying from if it is showing anything. I have a spide rthat wobbles minorly. One of his babies did a little head shake, and new owner says he still does it, bu tnot a trainwreck. My bee, havent noticed anything yet, but I bet he could do it very minorly.

If you want to work with th espider morph, it’s something you have to know about and be able to deal with. If any of my spiders turn into trainwrecks, they are done breeding. But anything with the spider gene visible can have some wobbles- be it severe, or minor, who knows.

I seen some vids of trainwrecks, and they look horrible. However, they eat fine. Just ask yourself if your spider gets bad, would you still be satisfied with him?

I love spiders and spider combos, so I am working with them. I just pick ones that sellers say they dont see severe wobbling from ( i bought my bee from an online pal so i know i could trust him) and simply hope for the best in terms of breeding.

There are other morphs that have defects too, so its good to gather info liek this b4 purchasing and being surprised ( thats what happened with my spider)

it just comes down to preference, i hear people wont work with them because of it, but then laugh when I ask if other morphs wobble b/c of stuff I read about them.

good luck!
05/12/11  11:41am

 #2218662


Froeni
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2218613


 Spider ball

good info bro!!!, and well i think ill hold off on the whole spider thing, i really don’t think it’ll bother me if my spidey would wobble, but then again like i said ill hold off on it lol.... for now im thinking of a Lesser Platinum and a mojave, most likely the lesser.... but if possible both!

you guys have any info on these!?..... oh yeah, if i dont find a lesser id just go with a butter since its practicly the same....
05/12/11  04:12pm

 #2218679


Edf
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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2218662


 Spider ball

Lessers and mojos are both very nice. I haven’t heard of anything commonly wrong with them.

While I love mojos, i like lessers just a smidge more, just personal preference. they can have a lot of color! But the same can be said about some mojos.

I am sure one will call out to you more when the time comes, if a spider ball didnt already - or if you can get all 3, but then you better buy me something...LOL ;)
05/12/11  05:54pm

 #2218889


Froeni
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2218679


 Spider ball

lol i dont know bout all 3 lol, 2 maybe, not three... but yeah lets see what catches my eye most!!!... i dont really like spiders much, only the bumbles and so on, but a regular spider, not all there for me lol...
05/13/11  07:21pm

 #2218907


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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2218889


 Spider ball

I love my little spider ! Wobbles and all, wouldn’t trade her for the world :)



05/13/11  08:46pm

 #2218944


Froeni
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 2218907


 Spider ball

oh snap...... its beautiful... lol post more!!!
05/13/11  11:08pm

 #2218980


Camo_pants
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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2218944


 Spider ball

Sure no problem !








She’s super social. If i walk up to the tank she’ll come out of her hide right up to the glass. She’s always checking out the camera too so i’m always having to back up to take pics lol. I’d get a spider anyways !!
She was my dream snake and still is !
05/14/11  09:40am

 #2218988


Starling96
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 2218980


 Spider ball

Thats a pretty snake!
how much do they ussauly run?
05/14/11  10:50am

 #2218991


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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2218988


 Spider ball

Camo I’ll Gve You $10,000 For That Snake???
05/14/11  11:10am

 #2218997


Starling96
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   Message To: Phoenix23   In reference to Message Id: 2218991


 Spider ball

lol
r they thta expensive?
05/14/11  11:39am

 #2219090


Edf
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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2218997


 Spider ball

nice spider camo- but i think mines better, but i may be bias ;)

Spiders arent that pricey. I nice one is worth more tho.



05/14/11  09:14pm

 #2219093


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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2219090


 Spider ball

o sweet lol
like how much do hatchlings usaly run?
05/14/11  09:44pm

 #2219149


Froeni
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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2219093


 Spider ball

Damn Camo.... You sure changed my thoughts about spiders!! Thar one is just gorgeous x10!!!.... For sure I want a lesser... BUT, I don’t know what to pair it with now lol.....
05/15/11  04:19am

 #2219163


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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2219149


 Spider ball

LOL, buy a lesser spider..... or buy the lesser, and pair it with a spider... possibilities are endless!! :D
05/15/11  09:36am

 #2219311


Froeni
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2219163


 Spider ball

OOOOR!!!..... a lesser, mojave AAAND...wait for it... waaait for it.... A SPIDER!!!.... lol jk jk... but sooner or later ill get one... lol
05/16/11  12:32am

 #2219370


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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2219311


 Spider ball

My spider was $500 Canadian.
05/16/11  11:08am

 #2219527


Froeni
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 2219370


 Spider ball

thats about $513 bucks or so lol... not a big difference, although i think the spiders here cost less... you can prob find one around 150-250.. still dont know what to run to though lol.... but spider is going to be on the list!!
05/17/11  12:59am

 #2219567


Starling96
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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2219527


 Spider ball

yea i saw one on kingsnake for 175 and he was a proven breeder
05/17/11  08:52am

 #2219617


Froeni
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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2219567


 Spider ball

Yuup! So did I!!, what does that mean though, proven breeders, not all snakes are capable of breeding!?
05/17/11  03:20pm

 #2219622


Starling96
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   Message To: Froeni   In reference to Message Id: 2219617


 Spider ball

i think it means theyve reproduced
someboby correct me if im wrong ll :)
05/17/11  03:50pm

 #2219739


Edf
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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2219622


 Spider ball

proven breeders does indeed mean they sired a clutched, or produced a clutch.

Are all snakes able to breed? No- some can be sterile for some reason- just like some humans can be sterile/infertile. Some can be poor breeders as well- just not having any interest.

Chances are, a snake will breed, but I would not expect it to always hold true.
05/18/11  08:28am

 #2219749


Starling96
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2219739


 Spider ball

yea i got to hold an infertile pied the other day lol
it was super cool
it had one clen stripe going down its back
the guy tried to breed here the last two years and no babies :(



05/18/11  09:06am

 #2220002


Edf
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   Message To: Starling96   In reference to Message Id: 2219749


 Spider ball

3rd time could be a charm? I bred my cinny, didnt even see any locks. I am not saying he is infertile, he actually is producing sperm plugs. He could end up being an example of a poor breeder, but I didnt try any tricks- or he could have locked and I didnt see.


Did that guy see the pied lock?

( sorry its going a bit OT)



05/19/11  05:28pm

 #2220088


Starling96
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   Message To: Edf   In reference to Message Id: 2220002


 Spider ball

lol im i think so
i dont know personally i was buying some mice and i saw him holding the snake and we started talking he has some het for pieds and some other cool morphs
but i think he did im not sure tho :P lol
05/20/11  11:13am


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