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 #1708004


CosmoWanda
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 In the Laybox

Ok. So I am back with Wanda ready to lay her next clutch, or I think she’s ready. I did soooooo much wrong last time that now I am terrified she’s gonna struggle again.

Today is the first day she started digging. I think I’ve done everything right by her as far as her food, calcium, vitamins, baths, substrate this time and her belly is big like a sack of marbles. I just got home and found her digging so I put her in the laybox right away.

The laybox has the dirt sand mix that Krusty recommended. It’s a rubbermaid, the dirt is sloping and there is a lot of it in there so she can dig all she wants. I have a floodlight aimed at the slope and I put a screen over the top so she wouldn’t climb out. I put her in and she’s just sitting there.

How long do I leave her in there if she’s not digging around? I don’t want to cause her to hold the eggs again, so I’m afraid to keep her in her tank, but she’s looking at me like ok why did you put me in here?

Any advice would be much appreciated again!!!

Barbara
04/18/08  02:59pm

 #1708028


Tony23
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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1708004


 In the Laybox

good luck with her this time i normally just pour all my dirt in her own envirment in the corner in a big mound and pat it down cos i tryed putting her in another lay box and stuff but mine sat there so i just pour it in her tank it makes a mess yer ull have to buy some more sand or wot ever u use but its worth it not having her holding eggs in
tony
04/18/08  03:17pm

 #1708031


Bama Beardies
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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1708004


 In the Laybox

Babs
We put ours in when they dig in the cage for more then a few minutes at a time. Some seem to really like it if we make a starter hole for them, others wont touch it if we have done anything but pack it down. Make sure it is damp enough to pack down some but not wet. If you oack the mix down before she starts digging it helps not only prevent cave ins on the dragon but it really makes it easier to dig up the eggs. You know your close when you hit the soft fill the female packed onto the eggs. If shes not digging after an hour or 2 we put them back in the cage until they start digging again and so on until she digs for real and lays. !st time usually the hardest so just dont panic from what you have said your doing right by her, so now its time to let her do her thing. When shes been in the hole head pointed out for more then 4 hours hours then its time to get a little worried about binding. but if she dig a little and stops or dosent dig at all in the lay box just keep an eye and put her back when she digs again. -Jay
04/18/08  03:19pm

 #1708034


Bama Beardies
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   Message To: Bama Beardies   In reference to Message Id: 1708031


 In the Laybox

lol sorry cosmo got two diff pages open replying to both put wrong names d’oh
04/18/08  03:21pm

 #1708054


BabsB
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   Message To: Bama Beardies   In reference to Message Id: 1708034


 In the Laybox

No Jay your not gone mad you put the right name ,just sorry to tell you theres 2 Barbara,Last time wanda was laying for Barbara we pestered Heartmountain for infomation and I think we confused him to,but thats why God put us on earth for,Barbars
04/18/08  03:37pm

 #1708067


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   Message To: BabsB   In reference to Message Id: 1708054


 In the Laybox

Keep us posted Barbara,hope things work out better this time,you had a bad experience last time.Barbara
04/18/08  03:47pm

 #1708111


CosmoWanda
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   Message To: BabsB   In reference to Message Id: 1708067


 In the Laybox

Not to worry.....I answer to Babs too!

I am putting her back in her tank now. She’s been in the lay box for over an hour and is trying to climb out. I think she’s not quite ready.

I will keep you all posted.......keep your fingers and toes crossed for Wanda!

Barb
04/18/08  04:33pm

 #1708126


BabsB
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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1708111


 In the Laybox

Barbara you could try covering her tank with a blanket for privacy.I put her in for an hour or two everyday for a few days and when she was ready she lay,good luck again,Barbara
04/18/08  04:47pm

 #1708221


Bama Beardies
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   Message To: BabsB   In reference to Message Id: 1708126


 In the Laybox

LOL go and confuse me like that maybe im just tired between work and dragon work as ya can tell i dont sleep much. -Jay
04/18/08  06:01pm

 #1708735


XXxBlaze420xXx
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   Message To: Bama Beardies   In reference to Message Id: 1708221


 In the Laybox

Honestly, do you know what I did for my female that started digging to lay her first clutch, I started a hole for her, and she continued with that hole, and eventually it kept caving in on her, so she started to give up I think, and so what I did, was I took a plastic box, and put it upside down, and cut the front and the back of the off, width wise so it just had the bottom of the box upwards, and left the long sides of the box on, and I put it upside down in her laybox, and put all of her vermiculite inside it, and ontop of it so it was completely covered, and then I started a hole for her inside the box, and put her in the hole to show it to her, and she continued the hole as usual. I also put a thin towel over her lay box for privacy. But the whole point of the box, was to prevent all of her substrate from caving in on her and stressing her out, and it worked so awesome, eventually, she dug all the way to the back of the box, and she layed her eggs. I think it was the smartest thing I’ve ever thought of. So maybe try that if all else fails.
04/19/08  03:53am

 #1709080


CosmoWanda
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   Message To: XXxBlaze420xXx   In reference to Message Id: 1708735


 In the Laybox

She’s back in there and I started a hole for her. She is actually digging in there now. I think she might actually figure out what she’s supposed to do this time! I added a towel for privacy, that seemed to help her out.

Thanks to all....I’ll keep you posted!!

Oh......once she starts actually laying eggs, how do I know when she is done and when to take her out of the laybox?

Barb
04/19/08  02:24pm

 #1709103


BabsB
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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1709080


 In the Laybox

Hi Barbara,when she is done she will bury them and pack them down with her nose,You can take her out then and after looking after your eggs,give her a nice bath.Good luck .Barbara
04/19/08  02:47pm

 #1710522


CosmoWanda
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   Message To: BabsB   In reference to Message Id: 1709103


 In the Laybox

We are sooo proud of Wanda! She went back in the laybox this morning, dug a deep tunnel, backed into it, and then buried the eggs just like she is supposed to. I can’t believe how well they cover them up and pack them down. Took me forever to dig them out!! We now have 21 more eggs in the incubator.

Looks like only six of the twenty five in the first clutch are good, but we are keeping them in the incubator just in case. Considering what she went through and that we almost lost her, we will take the six little miracles.

Now she is skinny, happy, and pigging out!

I know I have said it before, but thank you to everyone on RZ that has helped me with Wanda. She didn’t suffer a bit with this clutch THANKS TO YOU GUYS!

Barb



04/20/08  08:14pm

 #1710799


Bama Beardies
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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1710522


 In the Laybox

good job!! Copper laid an infertile clutch last night 22 mal formed eggs.. good for the savannah tho lol if it took our male vodka with his broke jaw may have gotten her yesterday too late for this clutch but we will see -Jay
04/20/08  10:55pm

 #1710903


BabsB
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   Message To: Bama Beardies   In reference to Message Id: 1710799


 In the Laybox

Well done Wanda.thank god she was ok this time and congrates barbara.Keep cooking those eggs Barbara,I was going to dump 6 of my first clutch but I was told to keep cooking them and I,m glad I did because last Wednesday they were the first of my eggs to hatch,so you can never tell.Take care Barbara
04/21/08  02:57am

 #1710962


CosmoWanda
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   Message To: BabsB   In reference to Message Id: 1710903


 In the Laybox

I’m glad you said that because I was going to freeze them today. I will wait now......just in case!

Those are some cute babies!!! Congrats!
04/21/08  07:44am

 #1710968


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   Message To: CosmoWanda   In reference to Message Id: 1710962


 In the Laybox

DON.T FREEZE THEM UNLESS THEY MOLD OVER Barbara .The 6 eggs that hatched were almost completely collapsed but they never molded.They collapsed at 35 day,I think it might have been a humidity problem.Take care Barbara
04/21/08  07:58am


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