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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hey Guys,

I really do need some help. And i have a question which i would really appreciate being answered quickly.

OK so firstly i opened up my incubator earlier today, and i found the two of the eggs had a huge amount of sweating on top of the eggs. With out thinking i wiped off the sweat with a cloth. was this a mistake?

I have 9 eggs in total but it was only the two that sweat so excessively.

Their exactly 49 days into incubation.

I have candled all of the eggs and found that all were developing really well, except the two eggs that sweat, the whole network of veins seems to of collapsed and the embryo is in a heap at the bottom.

Another egg i candled is amazing though, i can actually see the baby beardy moving around a lot in the centre of the egg, i am guessing that it’s feeding on the embryo but it seems sort of early..

The eggs themselves look great still though and are the matt white tthey are meant to be except for some with darker patches on them.

The eggs have been incubated at 29oC but have sometime exceeded 33o in the hot days. (i live in AUSTRALIA)

Thanks for all help in advance.

Stephen.

01/21/09 05:22am

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Oftentimes eggs will sweat, look like they have little water droplets on them, before hatching. I bet thats what is going on. What temperature was incubation? Take care beth

01/21/09 06:13pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hey Beth,

I have been icubating the eggs at 29oC (84oF) but sometimes in the hot weather it gets hotter, like 34oc (93oF) but i managed to cool them back to 31oC (87oF).

But i am most worried about what is happening inside the 2 eggs.. the whole vein network isn’t running right through the egg as it normally does (when candled) instead its all in a heap at the bottom of the egg.

Stephen.

01/21/09 06:21pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hey, You will probably think I am terrible but I never candle my eggs...I figure I will know soon enough. If they are plump & white thats all you can hope for. I don’t know what to tell you about the veins, hopefully they will be alright. Take care and let us know, Beth

01/22/09 02:06pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hey again Beth!

The eggs are all begining to dimple and collapse now But none of them are sweating. But the ones sweating aren’t dimpling LOL!! so it’s all very interesting.

Thanks Beth,

Stephen.

01/22/09 04:07pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hmm,

Don’t know if anyone has had this before, but beardie eggs have been collapsing since day 50 and its now day 60 but i can still see the babies moving around? What’s going on? Isn’t it meant to be 24hrs after dimpling? Plz help!

Thanks,

Stephen.

01/27/09 04:24pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

how is your humidity? we had a couple of eggs dimple when the humidity dropped. we dampened the vermiculite and they plumped up again.

do the babies still have tons of room in the egg to move about. when ours were ready to hatch they filled the eggs and couldnt move much.

or it could be that they are about to hatch.

01/28/09 03:34pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Hey Swanny,

One of the eggs look like it is make no room at all for the baby at all, but i cant see the egg moving at all. The rest are dimpled and when i candle them the are definantly moving. The vermiculite is keeping moist but they are becoming plump like they normally would.

But now there is another thing, the eggs now have almost a bubbly apperance to them? like they have small pockets of air in the shell. Anyone else seen this?

There is still one egg that is looking very plump and when i candle that one i can see the babys tail and its hind legs moving around heaps!!

Really confused ATM lol.

I guess i just need to wait and see what happens. I’ll try and post pics soon.

Thankyou Swanny,

Stephen.

01/28/09 05:31pm

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All the eggs on day 62.

Pretty good looking eggs.

Ok looking eggs. (aren’t as white in real)

This is the egg i am worried about because it has dimpled so much and for so long, 10 days.

Sorry the photos were taken on my phone hope they are still good!!

Stephen

01/28/09 06:28pm

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the eggs are way to dimpled!!

double check the water content of your vermiculite asap.

to do this pick up a piece between your finger and thumb, gently press it together and your finger and thumb should be wet. if its dry add water to the tub but don’t get any on the eggs. do this a little at a time because you don’t want it too wet.

do you have the eggs covered in the incubator? by that i mean a loose fitting lid on your tub. if you don’t then add one and if you do you should be able to see condensation on the inside of the tub but only as high as the vermiculite if you know what i mean.

when the eggs are full term they will go grey and sweaty before the dimple and then pip.
i will try to upload a couple of picks of our eggs, both candling and pre pipping through to hatching for you to get an idea.

01/29/09 09:53am

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It’s Hapenning Again.

the first image is candling an egg. i think about half way through gestation, maybe a little further. the egg is still plump and white.

the second image is another egg shot nearer to full term with much less space for the baby to swim

when they are ready to hatch they go greyish in colour and sweat then dimple. approx 24 to 48 hours later the egg will pip and another long wait and the baby will start to appear

it takes a great deal of hard work but eventually the baby opos his head out

some of our eggs were a few days appart in hatching even though they were still in the same tub with identical conditions. you can see how some of the eggs were still plump when the others were hatching. this was last year but i think they were maybe 4 or 5 days appart.
your eggs should not be dimpling this early and the one that is 10 days really must be way to dry. you need to get more water in there but be carefull not to add too much at a time as it will alter the temp too much.

01/29/09 10:14am

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Hey Swanny,

Thanks for your help, but I still have a lot of trouble understanding though because the vermiculite is as wet as you say it should be and i can still see movement in every one of the eggs when i candle them. If you take a look at the second egg in the first photo you will noice an egg which is picture perfect how could some be really badly collapsed and others not nearly as much?

Could it be that i am opening the lid to often?! And letting out all of the humidity? I hope not!

Oh man! I can’t see condensation on the tub!!
why??

Plz help.

Stephen.

01/29/09 04:41pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

you got me stumped then. if you have the correct humidity and the correct temps then i can’t think of an explanation.

if the babies are still all alive then i can only assume that they are trying to hatch but whatever you do don’t help them out the eggs. how many days are they at. lots of people have said hatching occurs at 65 days but i’m sure ours took a bit longer, nearly80 days and i was so impatient i had the eggs out o f the incubator and checked them every day so i can’t see that being the problem.

cath

01/29/09 04:49pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

have you got a hygrometer in the incubator. i’m sure ours was about 60 percent. and what about a tub of water in the incubator to help keep the humidity up as well.

we used chinese takeaway tubs with about an inch of vermiculite with the eggs in with the lid loosly fitted on top. when our humidity was high enough there was condensation on the inside of the tub but only to the height of the vermiculite. when the humidity was too high the moisture was all over the tub and we left the lid off to let the extra moisture escape.

i would be tempted to add a little water to your tub, maybe even a damp piece of kitchen roll over the eggs and see what happens.

cath

01/29/09 04:55pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

Wow,

Thanks Cath you have been a great help!

I will add some watere now and see what happens. Ill put a hydrometer in their n see what it gets to. Thanx so much!!

Stephen.

01/29/09 05:33pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

just be careful not to wet the eggs directly.

hope some extra water helps.
think the humidity should be about 80 percent but it was a long time ago now. my little baby is rather busy trying to be a dad at the moment.lol.
he is quite a character.
keep us posted

cath

01/29/09 05:41pm

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Hey Cath,

I just put some more water into the tub, i didn’t get the eggs wet either. They are now sitting on 85% humidity so i took the lid off and will put it back on a lil later.

It’s good to hear that your babies have grown up to be healthy adults, it’s all i could ask for ATM lol.

Thanx again.

Stephen

01/29/09 05:59pm

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It’s Hapenning Again.

BD eggs can hatch as soon as 55 days. They will not accept water at this point and are preparing to hatch. Just leave them alone and I’d expect some heads poking out any day now. The range can go from as early as 55 days to as long as 85 days. Eggs actually shed water right before they are preparing to pip.

01/29/09 06:27pm

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oh? so they will be alright then? one of the eggs has been dimpling for 11 days now (since day 52) can this also happen??

Thankyou,

Stephen

01/29/09 06:50pm

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hey? should i photograph them being candled or would it be better to just leave ’em?

01/29/09 06:52pm

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this is driving me nuts,lol.
have you and babies yet or are the eggs picking up moisture. can you give us an update please.

cath

01/31/09 02:24pm

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LOL, ok ok.

they still haven’t hatched.

It doesn’t matter hom much water i put in they won’t fill up again.

The humidity sits at about 70-85. I candle them and they are moving around (inside, cant see the eggs moving)

I have been searching everywhere about the eggs collapsing for over 2 weeks now (starting at around day 50) they are now 65 days into incubation. I have touched the eggs and they are hard? except for three. Although every eggs shell is soft underneath..

It really is crazy.

Stephen.

01/31/09 06:11pm

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They will not accept water at this point and are preparing to hatch.

Hello? Did you read my post? At 55 days and collapsing they will not take in water and you messing with them by adding water is doing more harm then good. Eggs shed water before they hatch. Why yours are taking 2+ weeks from denting to hatching I don’t know. But the embryos are alive via you candling them, so just leave them alone.

02/04/09 09:16am