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#297247
Misty G
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Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:( 
As adviced I took out the dirk from her enclosure and put it in a rubber made ben and waited for signs that she was ready to lay, but this morning when I went to turn on her lights she had layed 3 eggs one i could tell was no good because it did not have that much shell on it and i could see a lot of yellow the other two were starting to dry out and dent,
and then as I was standing there she lay ed two more, I took those two out and put them in warm dirt in a container and at a loss for what to do I placed the container in my pack man frogs enclosure, it was about 82 in there and the humidity was up. my incubator is due to arrive today or tomorrow, I will take the eggs to my reptile shop as soon as they open at 10:00am. should I place her in her lay bin as soon as the dirt heats up? will she lay more eggs? do they lay them hour apart?
I feel bad, I’m sure she started laying them so early because I must not have drop the heat during the night, we had a loss in the family ( a real person not a animal) so I have been kind of out of it over the weekend. She did not show big signs that she was going to lay she ate yesterday and spent a lot of time laying up on a log and not digging, is that normal? Please advise, Misty
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04/04/05 11:25am
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#297349
Breann
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 297247
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Hello, ummm did your dragon only lay like 5 eggs? That’s the smallest batch I’ve ever heard of. How old is she? Did you move her while she was trying to lay them? I’m not a pro by any means and still learning but we have had about 10 batches now and they are always between 18 and 22 eggs per batch. We use tuperwear containers with vermiculite in them once the female has laid all her eggs and then burried them. We don’t bother her durring the process at all. Then we take mom in to give her a really big meal of crickets and other goodies she likes. Durring that one of us takes the eggs out one by one making sure to keep them the way they came out of mom. Like not rotating the egg and trying not to let it roll. We put them in the vermiculite which is damp. We then place the eggs in the incubator and ta da... about two months later we have babies.
If you don’t have an incubator do you have a small tank? We managed to keep a batch alive for 3 weeks waiting for an incubator by using a small tank and we put an under the tank warmer under the tank. We then put water in the tank and put the containers of eggs raised out of the water on a pot holder thing. We then put a lid on the tank but left it open a tad. I taped paper towel to the lid so that the condensation would not drip on the eggs.
Now I wouldn’t recomend that method for very long. We were deperate because our incubator that we orderd long before our eggs came, was shipped GENERAL DELIVERY to Whitehorse. Now if any of you know what that is, it’s when someone is so stupid that they think there is only 5 people in the town and we will get it because we are 1 of those 5. There is 30 000 people where we live. Anyway I’m still bitter over how dumb the company was. Why would you ship anything general delivery if you have there name and address.
I hope I have helped you at all. Like I said I’m not a pro but we have managed to have healthy babies.
Bre
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04/04/05 01:09pm
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#297450
Misty G
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Message To: Breann In reference to Message Id: 297349
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Thanks, Bre for your reply,
I only bought the female on March the 6th, to mate with my three yr. old male I have had scence a little baby, the store told me she was 2yr. old, the day I brought her home they got right to it, twice that I saw. then I put her in a home of her own.So far she has layed 7 eggs about 2 per hour, she will just lay them anywhere and walks away, it was a good thing I was there to get them. so far I think the frog terrarium is working the heat seems to be staying at 84. to 85.5 of coarse I have been checking on them every 1/2 hr. she still looks like she has more in there, I did move her after the first three but I didn’t seem to bother her. When my incubator get here should I move them into the vermiculite or just keep them in the dirt that they are in? I had my incubator sent USPS Priority Mail, wish now I had done overnight. I didn’t think she was going to lay until the 16th. my bad
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04/04/05 03:17pm
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#297478
Heartmountain
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 297450
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
When your incubator gets in you need to balance it first then move the eggs into the vermic containers and put them in. It’s probably going to take a day or 2 to get it balanced. The frog terrarium is probably your best bet for keeping them alive at this point. Do you have her in the lay box yet, she really needs one. She should dig a hole and drop them all at once, it can take a few hours but they usually do it all at one time not spread out, and leave her alone while she does it until she’s finished and burried them. Now a couple of major concerns and venting. You bred a fresh female without quarentine or getting to know her or a health check immediately upon recieving her, BIG BIG BAD. You also didn’t do adequate research into breeding before hand or you would have known that gestation is 20-30 days and she’s right on schedule, that you should have your incubator in and calibrated at least a full week before her due date, or how the laying process proceeds and what to do with the eggs. I’m usually a pretty laid back guy but this is one subject where irresponsibility really gets me going. Research, research, research, then ask what you don’t understand. If they make it you’ve got 60 days to figure out how to take care of hatchlings, getting the eggs is the easy part.Sean
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04/04/05 03:54pm
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#297492
Venefic
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Message To: Heartmountain In reference to Message Id: 297478
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
wow Heartmountain
but i have to agree. mine hasn’t laid eggs yet and i.m already ready, and this is the first time
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04/04/05 04:03pm
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#297535
Misty G
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Message To: Venefic In reference to Message Id: 297492
 Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Thanks Guys, you really know how to make someone feel bad & sad, as if I didn’t feel bad already.
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04/04/05 04:31pm
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#297701
Misty G
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 297535
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
I no longer feel sad, now I feel mad, I would like to defend myself,
#1 I do know how to raise hatching, I have had my male for 3yr. from a hatching as I said before.
#2 My male did meet the female on at least 3 occasions at the store where she was quarantined for me. I trust the store where I bought the male 3 yr. ago and have been in there every week for three years now so I felt she was check-out.
#3 I did do research, and from more than one source, I was told gestation is from 4 weeks to 6 weeks. 4 weeks is 28 day 6 weeks is 42 days, I was told most time it is closer to the 6 week date than the 4 week date. I do know that the incubator need to be up and running for a week, I am at fault for that and do regret not using overnight delivery, as I said before I just wanted help from sympathetic people.
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04/04/05 06:22pm
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#297857
Blue eyes
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 297701
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
I agree with Heartmountain. The things that were overlooked such as quarantine and gestation period are the very basics you find just about anywhere when doing research. Sympathy is not something you are going to find anywhere when it comes to irresponsibility. This forum is VERY nice compared to most. Any other place would have been rude with no advice at all. Do keep us posted on how things go though.
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04/04/05 08:24pm
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#297983
Heartmountain
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 297701
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Gee, I’m sorry if you don’t like what i said, it’s not my job to make you feel good about doing something wrong though. Other people read these and if they learn something from it then it was worth any sad/mad feelings you may have. Also, don’t be mad at me, you’re the one that screwed up I just pointed it out. I am harder on breeders or people that want to enter the breeder level compared to your average joe blow pet owner. When you want to enter that level you are expected/demanded to know at least the basics inside and out, forward and backwards. What will happen after you sell these babies and you start getting emails from people expecting that you know the answers and you don’t or even worse give out the wrong info. This wasn’t an accident, you intentionally and willingly entered into this ’breeder’ level and these weren’t little mistakes. I don’t care who you get a beardie from, if it’s been out of your house at all it needs a minimum 90 day quarentine and a vet check with a fecal. I guess with some people it takes that first time you have to battle widespread parasites or disease before they get it. As for the other things, those are basic husbandry things that you can find in numerous places. Sean
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04/04/05 09:37pm
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#298345
Shancock
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Message To: Heartmountain In reference to Message Id: 297983
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Didnt you say you put them together when you brought her home and they "got right at it"? So you did breed them intentionaly knowing you didnt have the right equipment. I am a little disturbed about that. One thing I will agree with is that before I bred mine I did lots of research and I saw a lot of care sheets that said 4-6 weeks. So I understand when you say that. But I also saw the 20-30 care sheets so I knew there could be anywhere from 20-40 days or so, so you should have been prepared incase they came. Also, if you did your research then you would know that laying 3 eggs here and 2 eggs there and dropping eggs where ever is not a good sign. My female is laying eggs right now as we speak (or type..lol) and what I have used for her last 3 clutches is a 10 gallon tank and I fill it about 1/2 way with moist vermiculite and then I make it into a slope about 11inches high on one side. I make a little hole for her to start digging in. I put a screen lid on the top and I attach a heat lamp to it so that it is pointed at the dirt. I stick her in and she digs her hole and lays right away. Maybe my girl likes it that way because I have heard others wont do it right away but Gigi does. Maybe you can try that so she will get the rest of them out of her before she gets egg binding and dies. And then of course when you get your incubator and get it steady, transfer them over. I hope they survive, and I hope next time you will know better. Good luck. P.S. Why did you say you were going to take the eggs to a reptile shop? Sara
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04/05/05 12:57am
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#298361
Reptigirl
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Message To: Shancock In reference to Message Id: 298345
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
can any of you help Nile Man on the water dragon forum he needs help his basilisks is laying eggs and he does not know what to do Thanks
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04/05/05 01:08am
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#298490
BoaBabe448
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Message To: Reptigirl In reference to Message Id: 298361
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
nobearded dragons are totally different than water dragons. someone will eventually help him..
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04/05/05 08:15am
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#301230
Misty G
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Message To: BoaBabe448 In reference to Message Id: 298490
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
I took all 14 eggs to the reptile shop they have an incubator up and running and are more then happy to incubate them.
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04/07/05 01:46pm
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#303799
BurmeseMD
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 301230
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Ok before I end up being the next person to come here and say, help I have eggs and don’t know what to do with them, I have a few questions. I just bought 2 Bearded Drags today, 1 male and 1 female. The male is about 8 months and the female is approx. same age, plus or minus a month. Is it possible for them to start mating now and her lay eggs? Or are they still too young?
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04/09/05 12:51pm
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#303826
Heartmountain
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Message To: BurmeseMD In reference to Message Id: 303799
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Physically they are old enough but you shouldn’t breed her until she is at least 18 months old and at least inthe 300 gram range. Sean
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04/09/05 01:24pm
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#304732
J & B
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Message To: Heartmountain In reference to Message Id: 303826
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Are you sure they are not siblings?????
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04/10/05 01:50am
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#314543
BIGS75
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Message To: J In reference to Message Id: 304732
 Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
I think that you are all being jerks toward Misty G. She was obviously worried about what is going on and trying to do the best she can. you all act like she doesn’t care, If she didn’t care she would not have asked for your advice in the first place. She is just looking for help, and you guys make her feel like crap. You people are going to make people afraid to ask questions in fear that they might get yelled out by all of you.
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04/18/05 05:10pm
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#314607
Blue eyes
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Message To: BIGS75 In reference to Message Id: 314543
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
I think I said it well the first time, but this is one of the friendliest forums out there and people need to learn how to do research BEFORE they do things. Any other forum wouldn’t have given any advice at all, they would have just yelled at her.
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04/18/05 06:00pm
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#314953
BIGS75
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Message To: Blue In reference to Message Id: 314607
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
She came here to ask and do some research and guys were jerks, You all say it is all about the animals if that is the case why would some one not have aided her, all i am saying is that you guys can try and be a little nicer and use your knowledge to help people and advise them, but you shuld not use it to make them feel like crap.
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04/18/05 10:09pm
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#315075
Heartmountain
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Message To: BIGS75 In reference to Message Id: 314953
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
She came here to do research after it was already too late. I’m assuming I’m the biggest jerk so I’ll say this. If you are going to intentionally breed you better know at leas the basics first... I’m more than happy to help anyone and everyone with the research but they need to do it before they totally screw up. Sean
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04/18/05 11:01pm
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#315164
BIGS75
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Message To: Heartmountain In reference to Message Id: 315075
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
well I think that she was new at this and wasn’t sure. She was given bad information about how soon the eggs were going to be due, There fore the incubater was in the mail. I think that she did the best she could and tried not to According to you screw it up. All i am saying is that she came to ask questions on how to make the situation better, not get yelled at by a bunch of over confident jerks.
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04/19/05 12:20am
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#315168
Blue eyes
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Message To: BIGS75 In reference to Message Id: 315164
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
If you can find a friendlier forum then go for it. No one is forcing you to come in here.
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04/19/05 12:23am
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#315267
J & B
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Message To: Blue In reference to Message Id: 315168
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Ok, i never really got in on this as I just asked one question , which she never answered. But i have to ask you this...... do you know her because you just joined today and i find it odd that you havent posted in the other beardy forums???Also... i dont see you giving her any advice. Misty if you are out there, have you gone to the pet store and checked on the eggs? Just curious..... as bad as this thread turned out i do wish you luck with your babies!
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04/19/05 03:34am
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#315500
Misty G
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Message To: J In reference to Message Id: 315267
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
Yes, I have been to the pet store several time to check on our eggs . I did not come back to the sight because I was loosing sleep over how bad thing had become, so I turned to the pet store for help. I agree I should have done a lot more checking before I bread my dragons.
I am not trying to inbreed I bought our male Buddy three years ago and I bought our female two months ago. The store I have been going to for over three years told me she was in perfect health and the right age, They sold me a book and told me I was good to go, I guess maybe I’m to trusting of a person. Maybe the pet store was just trying to make a buck. I want healthy baby’s, I have 4 boys over the age of 10 and we want to keep the baby’s.
I do know BIGS75 he is my 21year old son who dose not live at home but was just trying to protect he’s mother. He was learning about inbreeding or should I say about not inbreeding so we can make sure not to let our baby’s do so.
I am trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can. (Yes I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FIRST)
Thank you for wishing me luck.
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04/19/05 01:27pm
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#315508
Blue eyes
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Message To: Misty In reference to Message Id: 315500
Help! Eggs HERE, not ready:(
If you are wanting to continue to breed then I would suggest you sell most of the babies, keep some and buy some other bloodlines to add to the mix. If time, money and space are not an issue these guys are a lot of fun but also a lot of work. We currently have 39 of them and will be adding more not to mention babies on the way! Please do keep us posted on everything. This is a great site, there are some things that just get everyone going. This is one of the friendliest, if not the friendliest site out there.
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04/19/05 01:33pm
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