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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Rescued Dragons- HELP!
What do I need and need to know? They are both on tile bottom in the tanks. Mine needs a lot of attention but loves being held it seems! here are a couple pics of what the set up as of now, and maybe someone can tell me what mine is? he needs a name too... hmm... The list sent home says: Food: *No Ramain or Ice burg Lettice* * Kale , Spinach, "Spring Mix" from Giant Eagle *Crickets every other day, can’t over feed * Meal worms every few days, wax worms aren’t healthy *If you feed super worms cut off the head *Dandilions for snack (flower and leaves) *Carrot peels, grapes cut in 1/4, small apple and pear chunks are healthy snacks * Baby food is okay every now and then *Pinkies are also good (And fun to watch) Water: *They love to swim *Need baths every other day, that’s also when they drink *No water in cage at night or they will try to sleep in it Heat: *No Heat Rocks* * One lamp with 100 wat basking light for heat *One lamp for UVB for sunlight, will die with out *leave both lights on ALL day and turn off at nigh (They sleep when you sleep) Here is Narnia the Nimpho
Her is My male... and I am not sure what he is:
Okay... can anyone add to this? Help me make these habitats ’better’ I have tomorrow off so I will be out getting stuff for them, so please help!! |
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| 04/20/08 08:36pm |
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Scruffy~n~sage View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1710552 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
And a better form of heat- IT looks cold and barren in that cage. |
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| 04/20/08 09:02pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1710552 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Good that they are on tile.. dont use sand or any loose substrate. Dont mix them ever...they will breed and he could breed her to death. If they have been together she could be pregnant and if not she can hold sperm in her for a long time..so watch out for that. No to the spinach, no to the carrots, no to the mealworms, and no pinkies. Some people choose to do the pinkies but they are high in fat and protein and since your dragons are older, they shouldnt be eating them anymore period. Alo, the mealworms they cant digest their shells, too hard.. the super worms are ok for treats... baby food should only be used for when they are lethargic or sick... carrots can be given some but very rarely as they are bad for their eyes... Dandelion greens, collards, musturd greens, a lot of types of squash are good. Go to beautiful dragons.com (one word) and look at their list. The ones colored in green are their main foods.. then the reds and yellows dont ever fed them!! You will see. As beardies mature they need less protein (insects) and more greens..so depending on their age they should e on a green "salad" what I described up there. Their livers and kidneys will fail if you feed them too much protien. 2 times a week is good for insects. They can eat horn worms, silk worms, roaches..all bought from online. One more thing, there is no such thing as over feeding a beardie... just dont feed them anything bigger than the space between their eyes. And the water yeah, they like to swim and should have a dish in their tank..just not too mcuh to where they can drown. Baths are good for hydration. No heat rocks very true, heat lamp is good, make sure thei heat gets up to 105 all day 12 hours on 12 hours off for both heat and the uvb light bulb. You need to get a digital thermometer that has awire probe coming out of it to put directly on thier basking spot... also the uvb bulb should onlybe a reptisun 10 or a reptiglo 8 long tubes... no coils. All the others are bad for them, they permit too much uvc and other toxic things. Your beardies look like a normal morph to me... I couldnt really see but they look pretty healthy and good! Keep us informed! Good luck! Lauren~  |
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| 04/20/08 09:22pm |
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PitsnSnakes View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1710639 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/20/08 09:44pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1710639 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
What is a good calcium dust for their food? I saw ’Bearded Dragon Food’ in the pet store when I was getting crickets, it is little colorful pellets, do you recommend this? http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2754052 that’s one of them. They had a few actually. Also mine really needs a name- it was ’Faith’ as she thought it was a girl. The pet store was literally going to throw him away!!! It’s kinda funny right now- I have rats in my room (on a higher shelf above the dragon) and the beardie and the rat are kinda... looking at each other it’s humorous. As far as keeping them apart- they are in 2 different rooms so no worries there! How would you recommend bathing them? (I bath pets for a living soo I know how to bath cats and dogs, and my rats a few times a year or after playing in the dig box) In the tub with a bit of warm water to swim in? I know I have more questions... but can’t remember Oh! Mine is eating right now! I think that is a good sign! |
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| 04/20/08 09:45pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1710694 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
The dust you should get to dust the crickets is a white powder... like jurassical without the vitd3. Then get another dust that has the vitd3 in it. Feed the dust without vitd3 about twice a week and the vitd3 not much being you have the uvb (and are getting the right one) then they are getting the vitd3. I would get some alfalfa too, to give them multi-vitamins. Make sure it is crushed. You can get it at an organic store. Bathing them, just put them in warm water... and let them have a good time. Not too hard. Just make sure the water doesnt exceed their shoulders. No, dont get the pellets they arent good in nutrition. They need collards daily and along with other greens. Go to beautiful dragons.com... like I told you! And that will explain it also go to the care sheet. Very helpful! Make usre the rats dont get to him or anything...they will hurt him and he just might eat them, not a good mix!!! ANymore questions.. we are here! |
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| 04/20/08 10:58pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1710801 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Don’t worry I never have any more than one species out at a time! Everyone gets a turn! My pets are my kids and I do honestly have common sense unlike some. What are some cleaners I can use safelt around my dragons? Or is hat water the best for their tanks? |
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| 04/20/08 11:26pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1710818 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Yeah, get like a fake log or something to help shed or some bricks.. just make sure you sanitize with hot water and bleach and then bake them for 20 or 30 minutes at 300 degrees in your oven. When your cleaning your tank just clean it with hot water or use a tad of bleach and make sure you air it out..before placing the dragon back in the tank. A thourough cleaning once a week is good. Just keep the poop out, for the crickets will eat the poop and transmit diesese. Get your bulbs lower than what they are..they need to be almost on the screen..or get the temps to 105 like I said. Get a digital thermometer for sure! You have to have them! They need this temp for the digestion! The 10 gallon uvb will not be enough and it has to be the length of the tank or well close to it. And since you have a 55 gallon and a 35 gallon you need at least a 36" uvb tube and fixture! No, the tubes wont fit in the clamps. Plus, you can just lay the fixture on the tank lid... go to walmart and get a "under cabinet" fixture and make sure the lens can come off so you can put your uvb bulb in there. They are about 10 bucks..so plus the 20 bucks for the uvb bulb..is 30! THats a good deal I promise! Just make sure you order the uvb bulbs at LLLreptile like I said... |
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| 04/20/08 11:52pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1710834 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/20/08 11:58pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1710841 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/21/08 12:13am |
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Bama Beardies View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1710801 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/21/08 03:07am |
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Sairhead21 View Profile |
Message To: Bama Beardies In reference to Message Id: 1710905 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Quote: We could really use some stickies... who here is in tight with an Admin?
Sticky’s have been suggested before but, unfortunately, Doug either doesn’t want to use them or he’s too busy and hasn’t been able to get to that yet. Great advice everyone! |
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| 04/21/08 06:10pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Sairhead21 In reference to Message Id: 1711559 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Thanks everyone for all the help! |
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| 04/21/08 09:09pm |
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Drache613 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1711817 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Definitely do get that reptisun coil bulb out of there it is extremely harmful to your dragons. What type of basking light are you using? Remember to place any basking light directly beside any UVB tube bulb that end up getting. Steer away from any ESU or Zilla lights or the Reptiglo 10, ok? Get either the Reptisun 10 flourescent tube or the Reptiglo 8 flourescent, or you can also get the Aradia D3 flourescent as well. Also, carrots are not necessarily bad. They should not be fed daily, but ocassionally is fine. They are not bad for their eyes. They contain beta carotene instead of Vitamin A which is the precursor & their body converts the necessary nutrient into the correct amount of Vitamin A in their body. I hope your dragons are doing well. Tracie |
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| 04/21/08 10:05pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Drache613 In reference to Message Id: 1711895 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
This is Narnia we were told she was a ’Nimpho’ which I find amusing with the name she was given.
She is a bit more yellow than that, my camera takes dark pictures. And this is Drake, my pet shop throw away. I am not sure what morph he is... but I love him no matter what he is already ^.^ he is so fun.
You can probably see the definate size difference! They are both full grown, but with Drake’s malnutrition I doubt he’ll get bigger at all. I am not sure the last time either shed, but how often do they shed? I am feeding them Collard greens, Mustard greens, Turnip greens broken up into small pieces. I grated a couple baby carrots and acorn squash for them too. |
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| 04/21/08 11:00pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1711939 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/21/08 11:16pm |
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Pissant View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1711954 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/22/08 12:04am |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Pissant In reference to Message Id: 1711990 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
I ordered a book, being my thought that if it’s published as a care guide it must be darn close to truth. I do thank you all for help, but I have found a few people really pushy as fare as care goes and it is irritating! I am not incompetent like many people with these pets. I will learn, trust me. I will post a picture of his habitat when it is finished, and go along the care guide that he is used to for now. I am getting repi-cal (both of them) for them to help with his calcium. It seems the care they were getting was fine, the girl just couldn’t take care of them anymore, they were both rescued by her a year or so ago. I can’t make my brother change his habitat as far as lighting goes, as he is -very- reluctant to change anything in case they are sensitive to it. But he is sprucing up Narnia’s cage as he gets time. For now I am cleaning thier cages, feeding them and taking care of them... I can’t be around bleach and I have cleaner that is a gentle disinfectant I use at my grooming shops and around my rats, rabbit and hamster. Oh yeah, don’t worry I am not so blonde that I am going to let everyone ’play’ together thinking it would be ’fun’ haha... though my ham may be lunch one of these days for Narnia ((haha j/k)) Sorry if this almost seemed like a rant, it kinda was actually... but I really do appreciate all the help!! |
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| 04/22/08 11:31am |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1712308 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Just so everyone knows- Drake now has a long bulb on him and is eating very well... how can I fatten him up? |
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| 04/23/08 09:35pm |
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Fire4life View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1714130 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
my beardies are much younger, we feed crickets, greens and worms. make sure you dust the food with the supplements. calcium is very neccessary for them |
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| 04/23/08 11:29pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Fire4life In reference to Message Id: 1714311 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
I have them on Repi-cal too, I just got it yesterday and started them on it. I think it’s a good price for how much is in there! Is this okay for any lizards? If it is I’ll stick with it since it is such a trusted brand! But if anyone knows about those lights then please tell me! Since we may already have one my brother will be more willing to change *nods* he doesn’t ’waste’ money but if it’s needed and proof that it is needed then he’ll buy it. But he wont buy a lamp for 120$ especially since his lizard is really healthy, and active eyes always bright and open (except when she sleeps of course) |
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| 04/24/08 10:00am |
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Fire4life View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1714563 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/24/08 11:12am |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Fire4life In reference to Message Id: 1714623 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/24/08 04:19pm |
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Yoshi55 View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1714915 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Plus, even if you bought a fixture at the pet store, they are no where NEAR 120 bucks! The fixture is about 40 bucks AT the MOST! So... I dont know which one your looking at. You need to tell him that those coils are PROVEN bad for his beardie!!! It will cause much problems for him and he will develop what that person said, Metabolic Bone Deisese (MBD) which is horrible. Your dragon looks very weak and he could have it too, so I would make sure you dust daily for now with the regular calcium WITHOUT the vitd3, being you have the proper UVB on him now. Then about once or twice a week dust with the vitd3. I hope you understand this..and please get some pics up soon with the dragons and your enclosures! Thanks, Lauren~ |
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| 04/24/08 06:38pm |
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Sairhead21 View Profile |
Message To: Yoshi55 In reference to Message Id: 1715139 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/24/08 06:50pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Sairhead21 In reference to Message Id: 1715161 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/25/08 09:20pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1716467 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
Ohh! I have them both eating out of my hands too! |
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| 04/30/08 09:19pm |
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Smurfzilla View Profile |
Message To: Broken Lioness In reference to Message Id: 1721578 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/30/08 09:40pm |
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Broken Lioness View Profile |
Message To: Smurfzilla In reference to Message Id: 1721604 Rescued Dragons- HELP!
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| 04/30/08 10:40pm |
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