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#1722587
Mtorks
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Another MBD? 
okay so yesterday i noticed that my little guy was twitching from his toes and from his fingers constantly and sometimes his whole body would shake. i am pretty sure its mbd because now he cant walk and i cant get him to eat. i made an appointment with the vet but its until monday so i was wondering if anybody knew how to get him to eat? i read somewhere about mixing baby food with calcium and feeding through a syringe but i dont know how much i should give him.
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05/01/08 07:20pm
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#1722660
Dragon Lover
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Message To: Mtorks In reference to Message Id: 1722587
Another MBD?
Hey,
Was it his legs that were shaking or his arms? Do you have a UVB for him? What is your substrate and what are you feeding him? What are his temps?
Edel
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05/01/08 08:48pm
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#1722871
Mtorks
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Message To: Dragon Lover In reference to Message Id: 1722660
Another MBD?
his arms and legs shake constantly and his whole body once in awhile. for uvb i have a reptisun 10.0 its not that old like 3mo. i have him on repticarpet and i feed him crix,silks, and sometimes phoenix worms. his temps are coolside 87 and basking spot 108.
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05/02/08 12:10am
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#1723092
Frog_lady15
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Message To: Mtorks In reference to Message Id: 1722871
Another MBD?
Awe! I hope he will be ok!
If you want lots of info on MBD, talk to Reflex. He rescued a dragon in a very advenced stage of MBD. He’s had her for a few years now. So he could probably give you some awesome advice.
Good luck with your dragon! I hope he’ll he ok!
R
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05/02/08 10:27am
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#1723143
Dragon Lover
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Message To: Frog_lady15 In reference to Message Id: 1723092
Another MBD?
Hey,
Are you dusting with calcium? Does it have D3 or no De. Sometimes too much D3 will make them shake as well. It is very toxic if you give too much. These guys make the d3 within their skin with the help of the sun, in our case, the uvb. If you are giving too much d3 and he has a uvb, this could be the cause as well.
Edel
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05/02/08 11:44am
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#1723483
Yoshi55
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Message To: Dragon Lover In reference to Message Id: 1723143
Another MBD?
Even so he could be impacted, try to give him a warm bath and see if his belly is hard or has hard knots in it..if he cant walk and or is dragging his legs he might be impacted. Try that, but please answer the question Edel (Dragon Lover) asked you! :) Good luck!
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05/02/08 06:41pm
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#1723579
Mtorks
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Message To: Dragon Lover In reference to Message Id: 1723143
Another MBD?
I sometimes dust the crix with repcal calcium without d3 and once a week wtih herptivite multivitamins. i dont think he is impacted because he has pooped and his belly doesnt seem hard. rigth now i just want to get him to eat but he is not interested in anything. Thanx for the help
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05/02/08 08:23pm
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#1723770
Reflex
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Message To: Mtorks In reference to Message Id: 1722587
Another MBD?
Generally, with impaction, the back legs tend to just twitch. The fist signs of MBD is when they tend to do full body trembles. Mtorks, your dragon seems to have MBD. Edel could also be right, too much D3 tends to do that, too. You NEED to make sure you have a REPTISUN 10.0 UVB in there, or a REPTIGLO 8.0 other ones have been known to cause serious problems. And also make sure that you are dusting the food with calcium dust and feeding foods with low oxalates. Also make sure they can get close enough to the UVB source. I personally don’t use calci with D3 powder, maybe once a month max. With proper husbandry, you can reverse this before his bones start becoming soft and bend.
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05/03/08 02:10am
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#1723774
Mtorks
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Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 1723770
Another MBD?
Do you know how i can get him to feed? whenever i try to feed him he just moves his head and closes his eyes. i heard of baby food mixed with calcium feeding through a syringe. do you know if this works? and if so how much do i give him and what kind of baby food? THANX
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05/03/08 02:22am
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#1723777
Reflex
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Message To: Mtorks In reference to Message Id: 1723774
Another MBD?
Does he take any interest whatsoever in live food? Can he move at all? Anyway, yes, baby food works wonders on very sickly dragons. I usually use squash and chicken/veal baby food (don’t need to be mixed ogether) and put a bit at a time on his nose so he can lap it up. Just do a teaspoon to a few teaspoons at a time, depending on how much of it he will accept. Keep trying to feed solid foods at the same time, though, because you don’t want him on baby food for long, it can cause diarrhea. When my girl was really sick, I would use the soft beardie bites (in place of the meat baby foods) from the pet store. This ended up getting her VERY interested in live foods.
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05/03/08 02:48am
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#1723778
Reflex
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Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 1723777
Another MBD?
Oh and frog_lady... just for reference.. I am a girl 
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05/03/08 02:50am
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#1723987
Sairhead21
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Message To: Reflex In reference to Message Id: 1723778
Another MBD?
Quote: I sometimes dust the crix with repcal calcium without d3
Can you clarify what you mean by "sometimes"? If you’re only dusting with calcium every once in awhile, this could be your problem.
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05/03/08 11:22am
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#1724047
Mtorks
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Message To: Sairhead21 In reference to Message Id: 1723987
Another MBD?
No he is not interested in live food at all. he does move around but only about twice in a day dragging himself. what i meant by sometimes dusting is that in a full week i would give him calcium like three times throughout the week. I did go on vacation for two weeks and came back this past Sunday. i left my brother in charge of him but i don’t think he gave him calcium or vitamins. I did notice that when i took him outside to get some sunlight he did get a little bit more active so maybe I’ll try feeding him outside and see if that works. I’ll keep you guys posted on his condition and see what the vet says. Thanks for all your help
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05/03/08 12:42pm
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