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 #1725228


The_2nd_baseman
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 My bearded dragon

I got a beared dragon about 5 months ago and I want to make sure his tank is good for him.Its 18"W 36"L 18"T is this good for him for the rest of his life?Thanks
05/04/08  08:02pm

 #1725232


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 My bearded dragon

sand is a big no no un less you are feeding him in a seperate tank or something


do you have a uvb tube or a bulb

and what are the temps in there



05/04/08  08:13pm

 #1725292


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 My bearded dragon

No i feed him in a 10gal tank and yes the one on the right is a UVB and the temps are 105 on left and 80-85 on right.



05/04/08  08:59pm

 #1725437


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 My bearded dragon

sounds good to me except what brand of tube are you using like reptisun 10.0 the good kind or reptiglo10.0 one of the bad kinds otherwise it sounds good
05/04/08  10:58pm

 #1725478


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 My bearded dragon

i saw your other post cute dragon!! i dont want to go against your judgement but i would get him off the sand, it also seems like it is getting him stained. =( lol a couple sheds will clear it up, also get a repitsun 10.0 and do you feed veggies? lol cute dragon!!

Bennett

heres some of mine i have a lot and starting to breed, already do geckos.





05/05/08  12:01am

 #1725636


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 My bearded dragon

very cute pictures, and i agree, you should def git rid of the sand. Nice set up though.
05/05/08  06:43am

 #1725730


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 My bearded dragon

Very nice BD they are really nice,and thanks for the info I was told that as long as i feed him in another tank then it was OK but when i get home from work I am going to change the sand out for a military towel.Will that work until I am able to get indoor/outdoor carpet,and i feed him fruits and veggies is that good oh and he drinks his water out of his bowl but I still spray him about 3-4 times a week is that OK.
05/05/08  09:44am

 #1725788


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 My bearded dragon

i personally dont feed fruit i find the sugar not good for them. i only feed collard greens, kale, escoral, dandelion greens, bok choy, and butternut squash as a greens staple dont give fruit,

i never spray the tank since the humidity isnt that good for them it can cause uri. i give them baths once -three times a week. in luke warm water up to there shoulders and le them drinkfrom there i dont have a water dish either since it can add humidity.

the towel is awesome. my adults are on towels, you can keep them on it, paper towels, tiles, as long as its solid substrate he ll do fine!

Bennett
05/05/08  11:26am

 #1725875


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   Message To: NoCalcium   In reference to Message Id: 1725788


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Ya I don’t spray his tank I spray him outside the tank. The humidity in his tank stays around 25-30%. And he only gets fruits as a treat every once in a while. But thanks for the info and the help.



05/05/08  01:47pm

 #1725892


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 My bearded dragon

Hey I just saw your beardie and he is waay to small for 5 months old. He looks to be malnurished. Def start him on the greens, get him off the sand, and the uvb you are using isnt right. You need a tube bulb that goes all the way across the tank. It needs to be either a reptisun 10 or a reptiglo 8. You cant find the reptisun 10’s at the petstore only the reptiglo 10 which is bad. So go online to LLLreptile.com and get a reptisun 10 for 20 bucks..and you can go to walmart and get a fixture for 9 bucks. Its called a under cabinet fixture..make sure the lens can come off so you can out the uvb bulb in it. From what I also see, you need to feed him more. 3x a day as much as he can eat in a 15 minute period. So he should be at 20+ crix a day... also, roaches are really good for him. Crix are ok but not that much nutrition. He needs it!! Dust your crix everyday with a calcium supplement WITHOUT vitd3. Then once a week dust his insects with calcium WITH vitd3...so you need 2 different types of dusts. VERY IMPORTANT you do this every feeding as well!!! His tail looks to be very thin..that could be a sign of parasites.. I would also get a fecal (poop sample) into the vet. Just drop it off and ask them to run a full spectrum on his poop. Make sure it is fresh. You can refridgerate it. IT’s about 15 bucks to do that. He needs to be fat... real fat.. here is a pic of my 2-3 month old now..he is 2wice his size... The first one is a recent pic..and the second is when he was about a month old. Good luck to you..and make sure you bathe him b/c he could have sand in him which will hurt him...so just get these upgrades aboveand you will see a change!! :) L~




05/05/08  02:09pm

 #1725947


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 My bearded dragon

Thank you very much, I had no clue that he was to small. The pics I put on here were when he was only 3 months old if that helps any, he is bigger now. I will try to get some new pics and post them, but in the meantime where can I get roaches to feed him? I have never seen them in the pet stores around where I live. Can I get them on-line or what? Thanks for the help!
05/05/08  03:21pm

 #1725950


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 My bearded dragon

Sure, no problem! I try to come on here and help when I can! Yeah, go to LLLreptile.com and go to the feeder part and look at the roaches. I got the lobster roaches..and they were all different sizes sooo I cant feed them to him. I have to wait till they mate (which they have and have off spring..which they have) that need to grow now. SO, pretty much get the real small dubia roaches at the top of the page..a little more expensive but they are one size. Remember, get the roach size that is the space between your lil girls eyes.



05/05/08  03:27pm

 #1725963


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 My bearded dragon

Thank you so much for the help! So when I buy the roaches how many should I buy, how many should she eat at one time, and what do I keep them in? Sorry for so many questions but this is the first time I have heard to feed her roaches. Thanks for the help.
05/05/08  03:36pm

 #1725971


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And also do I dust the roaches to?
05/05/08  03:42pm

 #1726010


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 My bearded dragon

YEs, you dust everything you feed her. I dont dust the greens though. Just order as many as you want. It depends. I ordered 100. So, that will last a while I guess. But like I said I couldnt feed over half of them so I would get more. Get a big rubbermaid tupperware thing like up to your knees high and smear vaseline on the top brim part so they cant crawl out. And your set.



05/05/08  04:19pm

 #1726023


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 My bearded dragon

So how many do you think she will eat at one time? How many do I put in with her and how long should I leave her in there with them?
05/05/08  04:31pm

 #1726291


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 My bearded dragon

The improved Sam tank,please tell me what you think,oh the vet says he is OK but thanks for the info and your dragons look great.I had his poop checked last week and it came back good but thanks for the info.My wife answered you on my name but she thanks you.
05/05/08  08:06pm

 #1726294


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05/05/08  08:07pm

 #1726406


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Looks good but it needs a lot of changes.

1. get a digital thermometer that has a probe (wire) coming out or get temp gun. That round one is crap and it in the middle of the tank wont do. You can find these anywhere..walgreens, rite aid, walmart.
2. take out that sand!!! Put paper towels for now. They never lived on sand in thw wild..a lot of people think they did..but they didnt. Plus, a captive bred beardie will live 10+ yrs with a good setup..etc.
3. you need a higher basking area. Those rocks are good but if you cant tell, your beardie is leaning up against the glass so she can get higher. They need 110-115 degrees as babies for a constant 12 hours. And only a digital thermometer will tell you this or a temp gun.
4. you need to have the basking spot in one end of the tank and then no lights on the other end..at least that permit heat. Then you need to get the long uvb like I told you to order off of LLLreptile.com. ASAP!

To answer your above questions. You should feed her as many as she will eat in a 15 minute period. During the day you can let the roaches/crickets sit in the tank so if she wants a snack, she can dive down and get one. OR, you can take out the rest and feed again at lunch time and dinner time. They need a consistant feeding. Like if you wake her at 8 am let her sit on her basking spot for a good 2 hours and put some finely chopped greens like collards or dandelion greens... while she is warming up. Then at 10am feed her first feeding...or you can feed her at 12 noon.. as many as she wants. The best way to do it is, just plop one in at a time...let her eat it and then plop another. She will gradually start to dive for them as time goes on. Then let her bask for about 3 hours or so and then feed her around 3 or 5 pm... as many as she eats.. Just make sure that whenever you put her to bed if it is on this schedule..8pm, that she hasnt eatin in a good 2-3 hours for she needs to digest her food before she shuts down for the night. At night, her temps shouldnt get below 65 if they do you can turn your heat on in your house and close the vents to the other rooms..this will bump the heat in her tank up. If not then get a CHE (ceramic heat emitter) and make sure you get the ceramic bulb holder..you will see all this at the pet store. They are pricey..but only needed if you cant keep temps at 70 or so. They need pure darkness at night sothey can get theri rest. And make sure the insects are out of the tank for they can chew at her and cause infection and or amputation!! When she poops, make sure you get that out soon, so the insects dont eat it and then she eats it and then that will cause a parasite issue. Also, it is sanitary! :) I keep a small water bowl in my tank..not enough to make humidity but just enough for him to soak in or to drink if needed. I will show you some pics of my enclosure so you can get a better understanding of what I explained above. Good luck!!!! And I’ll help if needed! Keep us in touch! And keep the pics with a new pic of the dragon please! Thanks, L~

This first pic you can see him basking of course, but if you look behind him, you will see that wire. It needs to be directly on the basking spot...not above him. So when you get one..lay it on the part where the light basking bulb shines hardest.



This is him obviously getting his greens..but you can see the quanity and the size they need daily. In the cage not out like he is.. I was perparing it for my iguana and my beardie and had Scooter out so thought I’d take some pics!



This is him sleeping..they need to be able to just spead out and be comfy! :)



Ok, this pic shows his basking area and see how it is high up there it is slate tile and it is siliconed on the glass. The wire is on it as well. Then he has a log to climb down on when he gets warm..so he can maintain his heat but not over heat...



This pic shows the "coolside" which has no lights above the tank and that needs to stay around 80’s and I have a hammock and a little rock..they like to climb a little and run a lot..so have ampile space.



This pic is when I didnt have the slate baskng area...and the wire wasplaced on the log but his temps did get to 107 at least!! Thats the least they need. B/c babies need 102 to digest their food.



This pic is just the coolside again... I change it up sometimes.





05/05/08  09:19pm

 #1726478


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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1726406


 My bearded dragon

Quote:

2. take out that sand!!! Put paper towels for now. They never lived on sand in thw wild..a lot of people think they did..but they didnt. Plus, a captive bred beardie will live 10+ yrs with a good setup..etc.



Thats a towel he has him on.
05/05/08  09:47pm

 #1726490


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 My bearded dragon

ohh hehe, I swear that looks like sand! Sorry but everything else do! :)
05/05/08  09:54pm

 #1726535


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 My bearded dragon

Thanks for all your help. I am going to get digital thermometers as soon as I can. The one in the middle is actually a humidity indicator that is why I put it in the middle. And I stacked the rocks so she is closer to the heat now. The hot side is at 105F and the cool side is 80F. Thanks to everyone for all the help! I will continue posting pics as she gets bigger.



05/05/08  10:21pm

 #1726603


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 My bearded dragon

Here are some pics of Sam’s new wood its up high but the highest side is not close to the heat lamp and he seems to like it.Please tell me if this will work.If you see its on the other side of the tank about 18" is were he is.
05/05/08  11:05pm

 #1726674


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BIG IMPROVEMENT!! lol that towel looks awesome, keep us posted definately!!

Bennett
05/06/08  12:33am

 #1726743


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Yeah, looks better but the red bulb def is not needed. Also, see how the red bulb is there..just take that completely out and take that regular one and put it a little closer to the top of the branch part. This is why you now need your temp gun or digital thermometer! :) So, you know your beardie isnt too hot and he is getting enough heat. I had a hard time at first trying to find the right temp. I’d get to 130 sometimes. I thought of "man I’m burning him"..but the temp jumped high fast, it didnt stay that way..so just keep an eye out for the temp being that way when you get your temp measuring thing. Just stay there and figure out
1.) how high the basking spot needs to be and
2.) where the bulb needs to be positioned for the right amount of heat.
It’s trial and error really. Just make sure you get these things done now b/c beardies dont like change...but I’m sure your lil girl/guy will, b/c she already looks happy with the log there! If I could take a pic of the way my guy is positioned now, I would but its 6 am and I’m not tryin to wake the hubby! eekk!
I have plenty already though! Everything is looking better though. I love the towel too, but hopefully its not a terry cloth type cuz when your beardie poops you’ll know why I said this..its gonna soak in bad and stink and just be a mess.
I would be soaking her in the evening after her second feeding about and hour after for about 10-15 minutes with warm water about 95 degrees (measured with a human thermometer) and the water should be about shoulder height. The sink is just fine. Just make sure you clean the sink good before and after bath time. This will help the sand move through her body..if there is any. A good way to tell is if when she poops, you take your fingers and pick it up and grind it to see if you feel grains of sand. Gross I know, but its well worth it. And if you want to help her keep hydrated more, when you give her her baths, poor a lil bit of pedialyte in there and it will help keep her hydrated! :) Not every time but for now at least. She looks pretty frail but its ok though! She will bulk up with these added things on your list! Thanks for being so aware and considerate too of your beardie! That really helps to have a great parent that has the time and money to take the actions needed!!



05/06/08  05:19am

 #1727132


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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1726743


 My bearded dragon

Thanks again for all the info I am going to get the reptile combo light and do a long UVB light,and the digital therometer on the 9th or 10th,so thanks again for your help and if you have eney other info for me please let me know
05/06/08  04:07pm

 #1727165


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 My bearded dragon

What do you need the reptile combo light for? All you need is one clamp light like you have with the regular basking bulb that you buy at the pet store for 9 bucks or less a 75 -100 watt would do. Then get a totally seperate holder a long fixture from walmart that like I said the lens comes off of so you can put the uvb bulbin it. Then go to LLLreptile.com, oreder the long tube reptisun..I’m guessing 36" bulb for 20 bucks. This is important. You really need to get the thermometer soon, cuz if her temps arent correct she could be very sick and not be digesting well. So I would really try to get these items soon. Its about 40-50 bucks for those important items. Good luck!
05/06/08  04:35pm

 #1727376


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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1727165


 My bearded dragon

I just want the reptil combo light becouse it looks better then 2 or 3 lights on top of his tank,and i am getting it all on the 9th-10th.Thanks for you help



05/06/08  07:31pm

 #1727637


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 My bearded dragon

Ok, well let me tell you this. If you get a basking light and a coil in this compact then..it will not be enough..
The coils are VERY bad for beardies....they cause eye problems and blindness. Also, the basking spot wont be enough for him to thrive. I hope you understand. Plus, it’s not about the "looks" u should be worried about. You should be worried about what is right for them. You need the long tube that goes all the way across the tank. I hope you dont think I’m pushing this but.. I really hope you get these things which I’m sure you will on the 10th but they need to be the right ones..not what looks better. Plus, the two bulbs in the seperate holders arent bad looking! :)



05/06/08  10:13pm

 #1727649


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 My bearded dragon

OK the combo light has 4 lights 1 is a UVB,1 is a heat light,1 is a day light, and 1 is a night glow. I don’t plan to use the night glow, but having one fixture for all my bulbs is what I feel is the best thing. Plus the fixture is set up on timers so it will be perfect for her. The UVB bulb is a tube one and I plan on getting it from LLLreptile.com. Once I get it all I will post more pics. Thank you for all your help.
05/06/08  10:21pm
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