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 #1727751


Tibok
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 I’m in desperate need of help.

My bearded dragon is quite young. He suffered from impaction not too long ago and I thought I got him nice and healthy, but now he’s not eating. His right eye is infected and like crusted over, and his left eye is shut all the time. He obviously can’t see the crickets, so the only time he eats is when I hand feed him fruits and veggies. The last couple of days he’s been so weak and hardly moves. His coloration has been very dark. I have no idea what to do. Somebody, please, help me.
05/07/08  02:06am

 #1727757


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Tibok   In reference to Message Id: 1727751


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Ok first off what kind of UVB do you have on him?? Coil or long tube? What is the brand and strength??
What are his temps?
What is his substrate?
How old is he?
What exactly do you feed him and how often?
What was he impacted from last time?
How long has he been acting this way?
Can u post pics of him (in the morning not now)?
Do you have a night light or heat source on him at night?

Thanks... L~
05/07/08  02:18am

 #1727836


Ed the Head
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1727757


 I’m in desperate need of help.

I would suggest taking him to a Vet asap. Poor guy must be suffering.
05/07/08  07:15am

 #1727985


Fire4life
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   Message To: Ed the Head   In reference to Message Id: 1727836


 I’m in desperate need of help.

i agree with yoshi, sounds like eye conjunctivitis. what kind of bulb do you have?? i would get him to a vet right away! icky!! legend just pooped on my leg!!!



05/07/08  11:08am

 #1728109


Tibok
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1727757


 I’m in desperate need of help.

This morning I woke up to find him running around and looking happy. But now all of a sudden he’s just limp again. It’s his eyes that really have me worried.

I have an 18" tube. It’s a reptisun 5.0. How far away should that be from the tank?

Basking temp is 101 and his cool spot is 86.

I have him on paper towels.

He’s only a few months old. I’m not exactly sure. Probably about 5 months.

He eats crickets everday and zuchinni/mango/collard greens/watermelon things like that about 2 or 3 times a day.

When I first got him the stupid pet shop people told me to get this ingestible/digestible calcium sand, so it was either that, or a large cricket that he tried to eat.

He’s been this way for about a week.

I was told to turn all the lights off at night. A lot of the things the pet store told me, though, are being argued by many.

I just attempted to take pics of him, but i couldn’t get a clear shot. Theyre all blurry. But good news, I just made an appointment with a vet for this afternoon.



05/07/08  01:58pm

 #1728181


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Tibok   In reference to Message Id: 1728109


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Ok, that is good you got an appointment. There are some issues you have though that I can help you with.
Go get a reptisun 10 the reptisun 5 actually isnt enough uvb for him. If the pet store only has reptiglo products, dont get the reptiglo 10..get the reptiglo 8. I know it sounds weird but a lot of uvb’s have been causing eye infections and blindness. If you cant find these brands and the certain strength, go to LLLreptile.com and get a reptisun 10 (whatever length you need..length of the tank) and those are 20 bucks! You cant beat that price. The uvb needs to be no more than 12 inches away from him for 12 hours on and 12 hours off. If the vet doesnt give you some eye drops of some kind..go get some regular eye drops and put one or so in his eyes for a lil while to help with the infection and keep his eyes clean. Also, ask the vet for some eye drops for reptiles.

The basking spot isnt enough for him. He needs a basking spot of AT LEAST 107...but usually 110-115 degrees. They need a basking area of 102 for them to digest their food. So that is another problem u need to fix.

I would get him in a bath every day for about 10 minutes at about 95 degrees up to his shoulders. Add pedialyte to keep him hydrated. I hope they tun blood work, x-ray him and get a fecal. The x-ray can see if he is impacted or has any hard substanc in him, the blood work can see if his calcium levels are correct and see if he has any infections and the fecal will do a full spectrum on his poop to see if he has any parasites.

I would just try to stay wisth the greens more so than the fruits. Too much acid isnt good for them. That should be given about 2 times a month or so..or as treats. Not daily. He needs collards and dandelion greens everyday as well as a mix of things..mix it up every week or so.

How long ago was he on sand and did he eat a large cricket?? Is he limp like in the legs or he just looks worn out? Cuz when they bask..they go limp usually in the back legs. Thats normal. A picture would be really good so please keep trying. How long is he from nose to tail??

And yes, you want no lights at night nor any heat source. They can get down to 65 but no lower. Their bodies need to shut down.

I hope your vet is reptile trained and has seen beardies before. Let us know what the vet did exactly and how everything went please. But, like I typed above, those need to be changed reguardless if you get a vets assistance! :)

Take care.. L~
05/07/08  03:14pm

 #1728446


Sairhead21
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1728181


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Quote:

The uvb needs to be no more than 12 inches away from him


But no less then 6". How long have you had him?



05/07/08  06:13pm

 #1728951


Tibok
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1728181


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Alright guys, here’s the update on Bix. I took him to the vet today, and yes, I used all of my best resources to find the best herp vet around. The doc looked at him and right away noticed that he was even smaller than a hatchling. Even though he’s atleast 6 months old by now. He told me that the eyes were damaged by the sand, which would make sense for the right eye, but not so much for the left. That one is just starting to turn bad. It’s been about 3 weeks since I’ve had him on sand. All he told me to do for his eyes right now is clean them daily with a wet Q-tip. He also gave me antibiotics to give him twice daily. He said he’s severely dehydrated, so at this point I need to give him water with a syringe, and feed him only 1cc of this protien dog and cat food stuff twice daily. It’s difficult for me to do that, only because he’s so teeny. I have to try so hard to get his mouth open and I fear I’m going to hurt him. The doc also said he THINKS Bix has some metobolic bone disease, which I would have preferred him to tell me certainly that he does or does not have that. Doc only looked at him, he didn’t x-ray him or anything. He said the major problem is that with Bix being blind and being so young, he’s obviously not been able to adapt. I asked about eye drops, but he said for cold-blooded reptiles, eyedrops wouldn’t do much good. I don’t know, but this has all got me pretty upset. I really need to get Bix healthy again.

It’s been about 3 weeks since the large cricket incident and the sand. I just got him that cage carpet stuff today and a digital thermometer to make sure I get these temps right. Now, someone mentioned something about humitidy. How do I make sure that’s where it should be?



05/08/08  02:53am

 #1729182


Fire4life
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   Message To: Tibok   In reference to Message Id: 1728951


 I’m in desperate need of help.

try using a rubber spatula like they use for baking, it’s easier to open their mouths that way. less stress on everyone. no humidity to worry about with these guys, they are desert reptiles. give him a bath with water about 95 degrees with pedialyte in it (like you would give a sick child) the water shouldn’t be any higher than his shoulders. you may want to find a small container instead of your bath tub as small as he is. good luck and keep us posted. if you have any questions, just ask
05/08/08  10:46am

 #1729227


Yoshi55
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   Message To: Fire4life   In reference to Message Id: 1729182


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Ok, this is what you really need to do though. Go out and get some baby food. Chicken and veggies kind. You can also get some different kinds like squash..just some veggie stuff. Then grab a bottle of pedialyte and get home. If you have a little syringe thats good. Needless of course!!

Now, everyday.. depending on if you work and what your hours are... if you work long hours..then give him a bath at lunch time and bedtime. The bath like I said and Fire4life said, mix the water with the pedialyte half and half.. 95 degrees, up to his shoulders. In the sink works just fine. Wash the sink before and after with some dish soap and hot water though. Then keep him warm by putting him back on his basking area right after.

With the baby food, you have to feed him 3x a day with no neglect!!! This is a big must! He needs a lot of nutrition if he is 1, looks like a hatchling and 2, dehydrated. You need to put some calcium in with the baby food as well. Not a heavy amount but enough. Suck up the baby food, and where his mouth ends towards the back of his "smile" just use your fingers to move the skin and you will see the teeth. Slightly use your finger to open sometimes you have to put the syringe in that opening and kind of pry just a tad though! He should open his mouth. When you put the food in his mouth do not fource it down his throat. Make sure he licks it and can handle it. Dont just guess and kinda push a lot...just take your time. You can even try to put some on his nose ( not covering his holes of course) and see if he licks it.
You say he is pretty active which is a great sign he is fightning!! If he has MBD, then you need to keep a lot of calcium in him and get that right uvb I told you about. If you didnt read my post earlier..go re-read it or read it and see what I’m talking about.

You really need to be consistant with this sick beardie b.c when they are dehydrated and malnurished it is very hard to get them back on track.. you have to be on time and with it! So, pleasse keep us informed and get the right lights, uvb, and temps going. Thanks, L~ ANd good luck!!!
05/08/08  12:08pm

 #1731180


Tibok
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   Message To: Yoshi55   In reference to Message Id: 1729227


 I’m in desperate need of help.

Well, here’s the update on Bix. I’ve been feeding, giving antibiotics and water with syringes, and he seems to be doing much better. his color seems to be bright and beautiful when before he was always a very dark almost black color. im pretty confident that hes going to get well, im just worried about his eyes. they don’t seem to be getting better. anyway if anyone has any suggestions, please, share with me. Thanks.
05/10/08  03:31pm

 #1731243


Dalton.ivins
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   Message To: Tibok   In reference to Message Id: 1727751


 I’m in desperate need of help.

it sucks to hear about your bearded dragon he is in very ba condition mine died today from ingestion but i recomend a vet for your pore little guy/girl
05/10/08  05:23pm


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