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 #2111345


Bri1993
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 Swollen Leg

Ok so for the past 2 days my BD’s right hind leg has been swollen or just bigger then the other. She is still eating fine and chasing the crickets. When i touched it she didn’t seem in pain or anything. I was wondering if anyone had any idea what it could be. Thanks for any help.



01/06/10  07:03pm

 #2111379


Dragon Lover
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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2111345


 Swollen Leg

She’s probably just shedding.....starting at the leg. Usually when they shed the legs and arms look like they’re swollen. Is the coloring any lighter than normal? Can you post a pic?

Edel



01/06/10  08:34pm

 #2111398


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  Message To: Dragon Lover   In reference to Message Id: 2111379


 Swollen Leg

Here’s a pic



and closer



01/06/10  08:57pm

 #2111401


Monkeyeatzyou
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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2111398


 Swollen Leg

That leg is huge... but it looks normal the other just looks really small. Sorry I am not being of any help. Good luck



01/06/10  09:00pm

 #2111418


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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2111398


 Swollen Leg

it almost looks like it might be broken. my friend had a bearded dragon and its leg looked just like that and when she would touch it her beardie wouldnt move or anything to the touch. has it been like this for awhile? or have you just noticed it? he could also just have some joint swelling. hope this helps

Amber



01/06/10  09:29pm

 #2111420


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  Message To: Alicardsmommy   In reference to Message Id: 2111418


 Swollen Leg

maybe its just a deformity that u never noticed before and gotten bigger over time?



01/06/10  09:32pm

 #2111492


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  Message To: Reptile_FREAK   In reference to Message Id: 2111420


 Swollen Leg

Hey I would get it checked out. Beardies wont ever give you a sign that they are in pain but that does look swollen to me.

About 10 months ago my beardie’s leg seemed numb and he did not hold onto me so well. He use to go everywhere on my shoulder. It was really weird so I took him in and the vet gave him an Xray. The Xray turned out perfect and the vet seemed bewildered but put him on a calcium suppliment. Weeks went by and no real improvement and it started to look swollen. The vet told me to keep up with the supplement for a few more weeks, as they heal slowly. Then his leg got hard at the joint, like a marble! I decided that the vet sucked, so I found a really good vet who immediately gave him a blood test. We found out he had some how hurt his leg and it got infected very very badly. The marble thing was and it takes a long time to break it down. Plus the infection actually traveled into his nervous system affecting his spine and movement. I am still giving him medicine to take care of the infection ten months later. He has a weirdo strut and shouldn’t even be alive but improving everyday.

I dont want to freak you out, but just know my experience. Keep his temps warm as that help with his immune system and dont let him brumate. I think it would be smart to get him checked out. If he still seems to be moving his legs fine, get a blood test first. It is not as expensive as an Xray and you would know from there if there is something terribly wrong. And just as it takes them a long time to heal(their immune system works slower) it also takes them awhile to get really sick. So its better to just get it checked now before it gets worse.

I hope all well with your little beardie!



01/07/10  03:43am

 #2111495


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  Message To: Snarlface   In reference to Message Id: 2111492


 Swollen Leg

Wow, that is huge. I agree to get her to a vet, snarlface is correct, when and if beardies are in pain you may never know it. Best to have that looked at...Best of luck, I hope she is ok.

Nancy



01/07/10  05:24am

 #2111552


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 2111495


 Swollen Leg

Showing pain is showing weakness, showing weakness is showing that you are easy prey. Most small animals will never show pain because in the wild it gets them eaten.

I don’t go to the vet often, but I would take mine if he looked like that. And like snarlface said, a lot of vets are inexperienced, so it’s good if you know what to ask for, IE a blood test. It looks like an infection to me, and it definitely looks like it’s spreading, the way the entire leg is swollen like that. I would get him to the vet ASAP.

If the vet gives him oral meds, see if he’ll lick them off his nose before you go prying his mouth open. To my surprise, my dragon loved his medicine, and would get feisty when it was gone.



01/07/10  12:17pm

 #2111554


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  Message To: SkumBoss   In reference to Message Id: 2111552


 Swollen Leg

The right one is definitely not normal. Look at the way it pushes on his stomach.



01/07/10  12:19pm

 #2111561


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  Message To: SkumBoss   In reference to Message Id: 2111554


 Swollen Leg

To share along with Skumboss, my guy also loves his medicine. They will lick it right out of the syringe dropper. I believe there is a sweetness to it that they like, so it is not that hard to give to them.



01/07/10  12:42pm

 #2111592


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  Message To: Snarlface   In reference to Message Id: 2111561


 Swollen Leg

Mine hate meds :( I wish i was lucky like Snarlface.



01/07/10  03:00pm

 #2111597


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  Message To: Monkeyeatzyou   In reference to Message Id: 2111592


 Swollen Leg

This is gonna sound gross, but my cats anus got swollen like that and it was an abscess. It could just need to be drained, but you’ll have to bring her to the vet to determine if that is what it is. Don’t go worrying right away, just stay calm and know what to ask for, like has already been stated.

Brittany



01/07/10  03:49pm

 #2111944


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  Message To: BambiRabbit   In reference to Message Id: 2111597


 Swollen Leg

If you don’t have one already,,,Try to call around or ask other herper’s in your area who a good reptile vet is. It makes a huge difference. Just because they say they are a reptile vet doesn’t mean they have a clue! pet stores also don’t nec. have a clue ! In any case ditto on some of the other posts get the liz. to the vet asap. What ever that is may have been working a while before you got to see it. But its either a break /sprain and/ or an infection.. It doesn’t look like the bone calcium deficiency stuff I’ve seen before , but suppose anything is possible. so gotta go! Good Luck and let us know what happens!
My Female Beardy eats everything in site, including liquid things. So she’s ’so far’ been easy to give what ever I want. She hasn’t needed much in the way of meds. Except when I first got her and she had parasites etc.. But oh boy mix it in something yummy and its gone. I use "coconut yogurt ’ for stuff like that -for the lizards and the rats. I get away with putting tons of vitamins and supplements in that for all the critters.



01/08/10  06:59pm

 #2111947


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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2111398


 Swollen Leg

If you don’t already have what you know to be a good "Reptile" vet, Check with other herpers in your area. Just because a vet says they do reptiles doesn’t mean they have a clue! We found that out thru trial and error. Pet stores also don’t nec... know or even use a good vet! But I think- Ditto -to several posts here, to get Beardy to the vet asap! What ever that is may have been working for a while before you got to see it. It looks like a break,sprain,OR infection ,which could be secondary to a break or sprain. It doesn’t look like most of the bone metab. stuff I’ve seen ,but suppose anything is possible. In any case the giz needs a vet. I don’t think BD’s are the most graceful critters! But if yours is anything like mine they don’t always make good choices as to where is a good or safe place to crawl or try to jump to or fro....
I have 6 Beardy’s among other things. ( long story!) Mostly they eat what ever I give them. My female particularly will eat everything in site, maybe your hand if you don’t get it out of the way in time! But I’ve usually been able to give her what ever I want by mixing it something yummy. I use mashed up bananas sometimes, but mostly "coconut yogurt" in fruity flavors. They haven’t really needed meds for anything except when I first got ’her’ she had parasites. She took the med from a syringe easily with a bit of yummy juice mixed with it. She’ll lick the yogurt mixture up out of her dish though. I never use DAIRY yogurt as the dairy causes too many mucus and inflammatory issues etc..especially in my rats who are naturally prone to respiratory issues!
Anyway good luck! Let us know what the doc says!



01/08/10  07:21pm

 #2112051


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  Message To: Bullfrogg   In reference to Message Id: 2111947


 Swollen Leg

She could have broken or dislocated her hip...your really should get an xray done....Does she move it at all???

Annie..>^..^<



01/09/10  06:16am

 #2112094


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  Message To: Pocochu   In reference to Message Id: 2112051


 Swollen Leg

She moves it fine and she acts normal. She is eating and pooping good too. I took her to the place where i got her and they said it looks fine but the other one looks like it is small i think he called it athropy?? don’t remember tho. He said it could be from a childhood injury.



01/09/10  11:23am

 #2112098


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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2112094


 Swollen Leg

But you wouldn’t have just noticed it. Where did you get your BD the pet store/Breeder? They aren’t always the best people. A good herp vet would be your best bet. Plus don’t you want to be on the safe side just incase it is something serious.



01/09/10  11:27am

 #2112111


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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2112094


 Swollen Leg

I thought it might’ve looked normal and the other was just small at first. Then I saw the way it pushed on his stomach. There is definitely something wrong that needs attention by a qualified vet. You can’t always believe someone selling something. Their reputation is what helps them sell more, so they will lie to make you think nothing is wrong.



01/09/10  12:27pm

 #2112143


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  Message To: SkumBoss   In reference to Message Id: 2112111


 Swollen Leg

I looked at some older pics i have (only had him since november) and that leg has always been a bit bigger



01/09/10  02:55pm

 #2112151


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  Message To: Bri1993   In reference to Message Id: 2112143


 Swollen Leg

Well, if you have only had him a short time and it was like that when you got him, he should never have been sold unless you knew what it is and if it could be treated. Better to be safe than sorry, he needs to be looked at by a vet. If it turns out to be serious and you don’t take him to and just let it go...well, what more can I say right? If it turns out to be nothing serious than thats great to, at least you will know...

Nancy



01/09/10  03:23pm

 #2112695


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 2112151


 Swollen Leg

I really want you to know how important it is to get your little guy to a vet. Again, with my experience, which had some similar circumstances, getting my guy to the vet was crucial. He seemed totally fine, and then suddenly seemed weird. A blood text will tell you many things. To reiterate our concern, I am attaching a photo spread focusing on the leg problems with my beardie, and it was never as swollen as yours.

1. His normal leg before any infection (way back when i tried feeding him beardie pellets which he never even tried)


2. A close up on the swollen arm after the vet visit. The swelling goes all the way down to the toes. At this point he is on antibiotics, which he is still taking 10 months later


3. This is an early shot very early after taking the meds. You can see his swollen arm but also note how his legs are still healthy looking, although he is having a hard time using them.


**A quick note, reptile dummy is not water soluble like mammal dummy. That is why it takes them a long time to heal. It is more like a very thick toothpaste texture, that can harden and because if its density really infect the nervous system. That is what happened to my lizard and the infection got into his spinal chord and he lost a lot of the strength in his hind legs. My vet thought he may actually die within a month or two due to the severity of the infection. It was so severe because he did not show any signs before it was almost too late.
4. After Karl has been on meds for more then 3 months. The leg swelling goes down but there is still a marble of dummy around his joint.


5. Karl cant stand up and stretch on the glass like he use to but he does do this on his rock. Notice his weak hind legs and lack of muscle there. The infected leg is very strong now, with only a small bit of dummy left.



Karl still has a wobbly walk, with floppy awkward feet, but he is much stronger now then 6 months ago.

I hope this encourages you to take your guy in. If he is sick, you can take care of the problem before it gets as bad as mine. Plus I will say in caring for my beardie while he was sick, a very solid bond formed that was unlike the bond we already had. Almost like they revert back to being a baby.



01/11/10  05:25am

 #2112750


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  Message To: Snarlface   In reference to Message Id: 2112695


 Swollen Leg

aww poor little guy. glad he’s doing better



01/11/10  10:10am

 #2112834


Snarlface
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  Message To: Monkeyeatzyou   In reference to Message Id: 2112750


 Swollen Leg

for some reason this forum changed the words I typed in my last post to "dummy". I guess it thinks i was using a swear word?

Quote:

**A quick note, reptile dummy is not water soluble like mammal dummy. That is why it takes them a long time to heal. It is more like a very thick toothpaste texture, that can harden and because if its density really infect the nervous system. That is what happened to my lizard and the infection got into his spinal chord and he lost a lot of the strength in his hind legs.



that word ’dummy’ is supposed to be ’pus’



01/11/10  02:32pm

 #2112981


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  Message To: Snarlface   In reference to Message Id: 2112834


 Swollen Leg

wow, karl’s a trooper--i’m so glad he’s improving. i was trying to figure out what the heck "dummy" was!

i vote along with everyone else: get the baby to a vet.

jesse



01/12/10  01:07am

 #2113118


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  Message To: Tempestborn   In reference to Message Id: 2112981


 Swollen Leg

I was looking after my friends beardie for a while, He had the exact same problem. But two or three days after the vet, he was on the antibiotocs but he died, we simply got there too late.

Please take her to a vet, with dragons, and most other animals fo that matter, it’s survuval of the fittest, which means in the wild that if they showed any physical sing of weakness, other animals of the species would try to kill it, so your beardie would seem perfectly fine to you for that exact reason.

I hope all works out well, really do. It’s heart breaking to see a pet in distress.
Best of luck,
Jayde.



01/12/10  03:32pm


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