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ARENEPEZ
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 New to baby beardies need help

i just got four new baby beardies and need help and a few questions answered. im not used to babies only adults that i have rescued in the past. i have the two larger babies in a forty gal tank and the two smaller ones in a twenty gal. they have the 10.0 coil uvb bulbs and heats lamps and cage carpet in their tanks. i moniter their temps with a accu chek thermometer they crickets just fine and wax worms but nothing else. i cant for the life of me figure out how to get them to eat veggies or the bearded dragon pellet food i was told to feed them. i got them from a friend who works at petsmart and he told me to get the calcium with d3 and sprinkle it on their food everyday which i am the two larger ones are growing pretty fast but the small ones not so much. i have been giving them ten crickets everyday as i was told to do i haven handled them yet or given them baths and i have owned them for a few weeks now. i will be ordering them the retisun 10.0 tube from my drs fosrter and smith catclog soon they have a basking area but sleep a lot and sometimes run away from the crickets. i would like to know if any of my setups and feeding methods are wrong and how to fix them and any and all other informa
tion would be greatly helpful to a baby newbe such as myself. any info on how to get the to eat their freens would help also. i was feeding them chopped up broccli slaw with romaine and mango but they never touched it. they poop everyday and it looks normal and are active for the most part. so please help also is it ok to handle them and bathe them now? they are about 6" and under from their haed to tail tip. it may take me a few days to get back to your replys as i dont have ready access to wifi so sorry in advance for my delayed response by the way im 25 years old just so everyone knows. thanks in advance
Amanda



05/26/12  09:36pm

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Lizard girl 4
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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2267790


 New to baby beardies need help

I think you are supposed to use use calcium powder without D3.



05/26/12  11:03pm

 #2267813


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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2267790


 New to baby beardies need help

Hello Amanda,

Welcome!!!!

Baby beardies are fun...basically small copies of adult beardies. The care is basically the same but for a couple differences.

The Reptisun 10.0 is the best. Get the rod and not the coil.

Start thinking about separating each to his/her own enclosure. They can breed as early as five months old...not a good thing for a baby girl, since she would take the calcium intended for her little body and place it in the eggs to shell them. Not a social critter, a lot of accidents can happen when housing two or more together. Although some people have been successful at it, I feel why take the chance.

They need to be fed all the crickets they can eat in a 15 minute period two to three times a day. Once they are eight to ten months old, they will start slowing themselves down on the protein. At 18 months, once they are adult, they will need to be changed to eating veggies daily with bugs once or twice a week. Most of my dragons, at age six to eight months, were eating 60+ crickets twice a day each. Some a lot more than that and some not as many. Depends on the dragon...watch them carefully and they will let you know how many times and how much they can eat.

Offer the good nutritional greens daily. Although they may not eat them right now, they will start eating them eventually. You can throw a few pieces from above so the veggie bounces and rolls...the movement will entice the beardie.
Staple every day vegetables.....Mustard Greens, Collard Greens, Escarole, Endive, Dandelion Greens, Beet Greens, banana squash, butternut squash, cactus pad (thorns pulled out) and cactus pear, mango, green beans. Everything else you can feed as a treat. Stay away from onions, potatoes, rhubarb, avocados and mushrooms for they are toxic to the dragons.

Staple every day bugs.....Crickets, Silk worms and or Roaches. For treats you can offer horn worms, super worms, butter worms, wax worms and phoenix worms.

Don’t even bother with the dragon pellet food. As many years as I have had dragons, none of them have ever liked the pellets. They just look at me with this look on their face and proceed to run through them. LOL

Dust their pray with Calcium with NO D3. With the help of the UVB the dragons make their own D3 by absorbing the rays through their skin. Too much can cause problems.

Here’s a dusting schedule:

Between the ages of 2-4 months:
Dust their prey with plain calcium powder twice a day.
Dust their prey with vitamin powder twice a week.

Between the ages of 4-8 months:
Dust their prey with plain calcium powder once a day.
Dust their prey with vitamin powder once a week.

Between the ages of 8 months on:
Dust their prey with plain calcium powder two times a week.
Dust their prey with vitamin powder once a week.

Heat (Basking spot) should be between 105 to 110F degrees with gradients down to about 85F for the cool side. A little bit cooler on the cool side is OK. No lights or heat at night at all, unless the tanks get below 60 degrees. Otherwise the dragons will be fine. They are diurnal, so they are awake during the day and sleep during the night.

Yes, it’s OK to start handling them now and start the baths. I feel, the sooner you start handling them, the sooner they get used to you.....and they get used to everything new all at once. Unless the dragons have been totally abused, then go ahead and handle them.

At six inches, with the proper care, they are probably about about a six weeks old or so. Of course, without truly knowing their hatch day then it’s just a guess.

Post pics of their bums and we can help you sex them. Facing away from you, place the dragon on the counter. Lift the tail towards it’s back at a 90 degree angle...placing your thumb on the lower back so legs stay on the counter. Snap the shot. One bump or no bump in the middle of the base of the tail means female. Two bumps on each side of the base of the tail means male.

Hope this helps

Edel









05/26/12  11:16pm

 #2268854


ARENEPEZ
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  Message To: Dragon Lover   In reference to Message Id: 2267813


 New to baby beardies need help

hi guys im sorry its been so long since my first post. i have some bad news i lost two of the beardies i dont know why they died. so now the other two are in their own tanks i have not got paid yet but when i do i will get the reptisun tube light for them. the bigger one according to petsmart is three months old and is in shed and eating good but still wont touch the greens. the smaller one is supposedly a month old anr eats bugs ok but no greens so far either. ive tried droping them in and everything no luck so far. i can try to post pics but i dont think i can. i was told i could feed them bugs from outside and i have been but i stopped because i dont think that was a good idea. by the way i was researching dubia roaches and was wondering if qnyone here has ever raised and breed them and if you guys could give me the step by step instructions so i could do it myself please. thanks for the great replies. i was told to only feed a certain number of bugs a day. i give them ten crickets each in the morning and they dont even eat them all. cause the next morning theres still alot left in tbe tank walking around so i try to free feed them but it doesnt seem to work. so i dont know what im doing wrong if you need anymore info please let me know and ill get back to you soon.
thankx Amanda



06/04/12  11:55pm

 #2268992


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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2268854


 New to baby beardies need help

They will eventually eat the greens......just keep offering them. It doesn’t have to be a large amount. Once they start eating them, then add more.

No bugs from the outside. You never know what type of parasite they could have. Also, if the bug has been on some plant or grass that has been sprayed, that could be deadly to your dragon.

Roaches are really easy and beardies seem to like them quite a bit. I’m at work, but when I get home I will post on here how to keep the roaches. We raise Discoids, which are pretty much the same as Dubias but a bit larger.

Let the dragons eat all they can eat in a 15 minute period and offer two to three times a day. If you feed in the enclosure, make sure you take the cricket out every night, every cricket. Crickets can chew on your beardie and leave some ugly injuries. During the day it’s ok to leave them in there, just make sure you have some sort of veggie so the crickets eat on the veggie and not the dragon, so good idea for the greens either way.

Feeding in a different container sometimes work and sometimes doesn’t. Depends on the dragon. We have some that will eat no matter where they are, and some will not touch the bug no matter how many times he/she goes into the feeding tub. So feeding int he enclosure is ok if the dragon will only eat inthe enclosrue. But make sure to take the crickets out.

Edel



06/06/12  10:22am

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  Message To: Dragon Lover   In reference to Message Id: 2268992


 New to baby beardies need help

their eating the crickets and meal worms just fine ill try the greens more i hope someone can advise me on the roaches soon. i can only get collared greens this time of year the rest of the time its romaine lettuce. the big orange one shed in pieces just fine so i think they will be ok thanks for all the advice i still can’t find plain calcium with out d3 so i don’t know what to do about that a friend told me to go to Walmart and buy plain calcium in the vitamin isle and grind it with a pill crusher and give that to them because its the same calcium that the petstore sells just without the d3 i find that hard to believe. does anyone know if that’s true? if it is the same then i will buy it and make it into powder and give that to them. thanks Edel for all your help and advice. sorry i have so many questions but i didn’t know i was raising my beardies wrong all tis time. anymore advice and answers to the above questions would be great. thanks Amanda



06/11/12  01:10am

 #2270839


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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2269533


 New to baby beardies need help

hi all im just posting this to say i don’t understand why im being ignored i mean ninety six views but only three responses wow i understand people are busy and all but i really needed answers to my roach question and its been over a week with no response so now i have no choice but to seek help elsewhere despite the fact that all other posts after mine have been answered this past week multiple times and by many members yet no one replied to mine im not upset just confused btw to everybody that lost their beardies this last week im sorry for your loss so now i will go try to Google the information on breeding dubia roaches because crickets cost too much and smell some got loose in my house and they die to easy and now all i have to feed my beardies is mealworms and i don’t have many of those left i hope i can get more food for them soon but don’t get paid for two more weeks so we’ll see what happens hopefully i can find a place that sells start up breeders and the information i desperately need on how to breed and keep them so from now on i don’t think i will post questions on here any time soon seeing as how they probably won’t get answered
Amanda



06/22/12  02:19am

 #2270845


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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2270839


 New to baby beardies need help

Hi Amanda

Im 25 and new to this 2 i have a baby Beardie which i have had for 2 weeks. seems happy i was feeding him grasshopppers (3rds as told by the shop) at first and he only ate around 8 a day i listened to a number of people on this form and hanged him to 2nd instar crickets he now eats like 30 a day. your setup sounds about right. this website is fantastic regardign nutrition/ Weight / length etc. http://www.beautifuldragons.com/ . i know none of this is probaly any help but all the best with your Baby Beardies :)



06/22/12  06:26am

 #2270958


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  Message To: Randall0780   In reference to Message Id: 2270845


 New to baby beardies need help

It’s not that you are getting ignored, it’s that it’s so slow lately. A lot of the people that viewd this may not know anything about roaches. People do have lives and crazy ones. ....I know mine is, especially with as many critters as we’ve got. No excuses though, I told you that I would get you that information and I didn’t I Apologize:

I will start a new thread called Roach Set Up.

Edel



06/23/12  03:48pm

 #2271004


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  Message To: Dragon Lover   In reference to Message Id: 2270958


 New to baby beardies need help

thanks Edel and im sorry if i upset you i was just under a time constrain i didn’t want you to be sorry i understand everyone has their own lives and work and family wd of course you also have thirteen dragons to feed it takes time i just didn’t realize other people here didn’t know about roaches so im sorry for my previous post unfortunately now i have to wait for my next pay check to buy my starters and thats why i was trying to get the info before i was broke i read the roach post thank you
Amanda



06/23/12  11:33pm

 #2271074


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  Message To: ARENEPEZ   In reference to Message Id: 2271004


 New to baby beardies need help

Hi Amanda,

I wasn’t upset at all......except maybe at myself for I did tell you I would get that thread up for you and didn’t. Anyway, sorry it took so long. I hope it helps you some.....the roaches are really easy.

Edel



06/24/12  12:16pm

 #2271358


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  Message To: Dragon Lover   In reference to Message Id: 2267813


 New to baby beardies need help

I’ve always been told the calcium must contain d3 when using artificial lighting and no d3 if getting natural unfiltered sunlight since Artificial lights can’t do what natural sun does.



06/27/12  11:51am


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