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 #384869


Luvgex
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 Dragon Abuse!

My boyfried, though I love him so, is a horrible parent! Sometimes, he leaves the day-time light on for days at a time, same with the night light. He feeds Ike romaine lettuce, and 10 crickets once a week! Iíve given him caresheet after caresheet on beardies, but he still says "Heíll be alright". HE EVEN HAS HIM ON CRUSHED WALNUT SHELLS!!!! No matter what I say, he just blows me off because itís "his lizard".

Iíve warned him about impaction, he doesnít seem to think itíll actually happen. He doesnít think an animal can have ill effects from stress...He just wonít listen to me. He wonít use paper towl, or newpaper, or even repticarpet because it "doesnít look as cool".

What can I do!?!



06/28/05  04:00pm
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 #384883


Gizaz
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  Message To: Luvgex   In reference to Message Id: 384869


 Dragon Abuse!

maybe you could ask him if hell give it to you or ask about buying it of him try to get it out of there



06/28/05  04:07pm
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 #384889


Dadx2mj
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  Message To: Gizaz   In reference to Message Id: 384883


 Dragon Abuse!

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What can I do!?!



Cut him off until he sees it your way. My guess is that it wont take long



06/28/05  04:13pm
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 #384891


Luvgex
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  Message To: Gizaz   In reference to Message Id: 384883


 Dragon Abuse!

Iíve already tried! The only thing that semi worked was: I told him he was wasting all that money just to have something die. That perked his interest. BUT he said he start doing things differently when it got sick, which I think is HORRIFIC and mildly retarded. I was thinking about just takiní it, but I donít have the space or money for another lizard mouth to feed.



06/28/05  04:14pm
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 #384901


Sublime
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  Message To: Luvgex   In reference to Message Id: 384891


 Dragon Abuse!

i know the type....want a pet cause its cool but are ignorant about proper care, and then when theyíre informed they choose to ignore it because theyíre lazy

retarded is right



06/28/05  04:32pm
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 #384903


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  Message To: Luvgex   In reference to Message Id: 384891


 Dragon Abuse!

Personally, I couldnít be with someone that abuses animals. . .



06/28/05  04:33pm
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 #384908


Blue eyes
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  Message To: Cbatusf   In reference to Message Id: 384903


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Personally, I couldnít be with someone that abuses animals. . .

I agree.



06/28/05  04:36pm
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 #384914


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  Message To: Blue eyes   In reference to Message Id: 384908


 Dragon Abuse!

i have a question about the walnut shells, why those arentít any good.



06/28/05  04:48pm
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 #384918


Gizaz
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  Message To: Luvgex   In reference to Message Id: 384869


 Dragon Abuse!

If you could find someone that has the money to care for another beardie then you could take the beardie there for now.



06/28/05  04:48pm
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 #384921


Blue eyes
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  Message To: Gizaz   In reference to Message Id: 384918


 Dragon Abuse!

Because they are sharp and can cut up the insides and can also cause impaction. They are pretty much the very worst substrate you can use.



06/28/05  04:50pm
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 #384925


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  Message To: Gizaz   In reference to Message Id: 384918


 Dragon Abuse!

Take the dragon, and on your way out the door, dump him. Ok, maybe not realistic, but no offense, he doesnít sound like the smartest guy. I personally would not be able to be around him, knowing that he just doesnít care. Do you have any friends that might take the dragon and give him a good home?



06/28/05  04:53pm
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 #384993


Raymack9120
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  Message To: Reptichik   In reference to Message Id: 384925


 Dragon Abuse!

i use really really groung up walnut shells itís like sand. Thatís still bad, okay what should I get? Also what about Romain Lettuce I feed it to my beardie as his daily greens, he is in love with them. Like crazy, if I can get a pic i will show you guys.



06/28/05  06:02pm
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 #384996


SpeacilK
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  Message To: Reptichik   In reference to Message Id: 384925


 Dragon Abuse!

tell him youíll return his calls and talk to him as soon as you see improvement in the dragon.



06/28/05  06:04pm
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 #384998


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Raymack9120   In reference to Message Id: 384993


 Dragon Abuse!

So... go to Lacyís site or Seans site and read a care sheet..

www.diamond-gems.com

www.heartmountainherps.com

Then, throw away all of your romaine lettuce and walnut shells/ sand. Put some shelf liner/paper towels/tiles down and feed him collard/turnip/escarole/endive greens. No lettuce.



06/28/05  06:07pm
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 #385083


SpeacilK
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 384998


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she knows all that. its her boyfriend that needs the help.



06/28/05  07:40pm
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 #385088


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  Message To: SpeacilK   In reference to Message Id: 385083


 Dragon Abuse!

RAYMACK:

Walnut shells can and will cause impaction. Remove them pronto. Read all the threads here about substrate (there are several) and make your own decision as to what to use. Personally we use reptile carpets.
Romaine lettuce is not a good staple green. Try collard, turnip, dandelion, mustard, escarole.......


LUVGEX:

Iím not going to tell you what to do with your life, but frankly I could never date anyone who, in the face of better information, continued to abuse their animal...........



06/28/05  07:48pm
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 #385127


Dadx2mj
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  Message To: Ferndalezoo   In reference to Message Id: 385088


 Dragon Abuse!

BAH if cutting him off did not work that only means he is getting it some where else. Dump him



06/28/05  08:31pm
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 #385134


XenaKieran
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  Message To: Dadx2mj   In reference to Message Id: 385127


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BAH if cutting him off did not work that only means he is getting it some where else. Dump him




OUCH!!! :p



06/28/05  08:35pm
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 #385306


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  Message To: XenaKieran   In reference to Message Id: 385134


 Dragon Abuse!

thats terrible. dumping him isnt going to change the problem. dumping him will just get you out of the problem not the dragon. if he doesnt listen to you or care about what the care sheets say theirs not much you can do. i would keep a eye on the dragon as much as you can. and turn off the light once in a while. just keep one him about the problem. and drop some crickets in their when hes not looking lol.



06/28/05  11:06pm
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 #385472


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  Message To: Dadx2mj   In reference to Message Id: 385127


 Dragon Abuse!

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BAH if cutting him off did not work that only means he is getting it some where else. Dump him



LoL I have to agree



06/29/05  01:45am
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 #385675


Luvgex
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  Message To: KAS   In reference to Message Id: 385472


 Dragon Abuse!

LOL. No, no, no. There will be no dumpage. 1) I donít want to. 2) Ike would probably not be around much longer...But we have made some changes..

I bought him 100 crickets yesterday, so he doesnít have the "Iím broke right now" or "I need money for gas" excuse.

I brought over some veggies that my mom feeds her iggy.

I convinced him to get the walnut shells out of there and Ike is now on brown construction paper (tacky, I know, but itís prettier that paper towel) and on Friday weíre gonna look at the other options, repticarpet, shelf liner, or this other crap that you get wet and mold it and let it sit under the heat lamp for a couple hours and it dries to a solid mass.

And no, heís not gettiní it anywhere else, thank you very much!



06/29/05  11:01am
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 #385681


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  Message To: Luvgex   In reference to Message Id: 385675


 Dragon Abuse!

mabey the reason youre with this guy is to save the beardie!! he needs your help! sit your boyfreind down and ask for five minutes to talk with no inturuption, then explain everything, then let him talk.



06/29/05  11:09am
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 #385775


Starcat
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  Message To: Frogmister   In reference to Message Id: 385681


 Dragon Abuse!

You could always wait until heís not home and change the bearded dragons set up and when he gets back say "Surprise"!!
Then stick a care sheet right on the side of the tank, and tell him if he loved you heíd follow it! :)

Thatís probably what I would do. LOL Good luck.



06/29/05  01:17pm
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