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 #1758140


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Would a small harness be okay to put on a budgie and take it for a walk? If not why?



06/11/08  06:15pm

 #1758244


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1758140


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I wouldn’t recommend it for a bird as small as a budgie because they are very delicate. If the bird decided to fly or run off, pulling on a harness would either just cause it to slip off or could seriously injure the bird.

I would suggest just moving her cage outside when it’s sunny for a few minutes, or getting a larger flight cage for her to have some more space in outside when you can watch her. You can use harnesses for larger parrots.
06/11/08  08:09pm

 #1758325


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budgies..uhhh i dont think so...thats pretty bad then but there are parrots that do have harnesses like a african grey parrot or the macaw or the you know those big ones but a parakeet aint to good for those



06/11/08  09:33pm

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by the way..if you wish to train her or him then consider on clipping the wing feathers but careful on the skin dont clip the skin...also they might feel and act weird on the time you clip them but dont worry it will be ok..by the way did you already get your bird???



06/11/08  09:40pm

 #1758476


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No i havnt gotten it yet... But i know what toys, cage, accessories, and the color and name of my bird is going to be.



06/11/08  11:37pm

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A flight suit is more for the budgie, mainly because you do not get harnesses small enough for budgies. The smallest you can normally get would suit a cockatiel or English budgie. If you’re getting a normal budgie then go for the flight suit instead.
http://www.naturechest.com/flightsuits.html
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/146563684_5606014988.jpg?v=0
Whether your budgie will accept the flight suit is another matter. You need to to introduce the suit a bit at a time, over weeks to get the budgie used to it so that it’s comfortable around the suit. Then you need to gently put the suit on, do it up but remove the lead. Allow the budgie to walk around each day for a few mins with the suit on to get used to it, then attach the lead & repeat the process over another few days until you can comfortably have the budgie outside with you & in the suit.

This doesn’t guarantee your budgie will accept the flight suit. Some birds just despise them & there is nothing you can do about it. Don’t force it if your budgie isn’t happy with it.
06/13/08  08:05am

 #1759744


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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1759551


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Hmmm interesting! I will try the flight suit, it seems safer.



06/13/08  12:30pm

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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1759744


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If you are looking for a flight suit and perhaps even a harness, try out this website too.

http://www.birddiaper.com/

They sell designed ones, and they also seem to have a multi-purpose sort of ability. Hope this helps-



06/14/08  09:00am

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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1760549


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Hmm, great selection!



06/14/08  05:22pm

 #1761090


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1760923


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you do know that training your bird now is more important then any harness or flight suit...cause you cant use anyof those things until you fully train your budgie cause it will bite you until you bleed if you try to put any harness or flight suit on it and takes about a few years for you to have a bird go on your finger or even have it talk so think about that before getting a flight suit or a harness... :)



06/14/08  08:35pm

 #1761127


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O.... Even though i am getting a hand fed and hand raised bird? It will take years?



06/14/08  09:22pm

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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1761127


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oh your getting a hand fed and hand raised bird?..oh i didn’t know but those birds will be hard to find and anyways they will have to know and get used to a new owner...



06/14/08  10:01pm

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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1761147


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True, but I know the store i am getting it from. And they are hand fed and raised.



06/14/08  10:17pm

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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1761160


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" and takes about a few years for you to have a bird go on your finger or even have it talk so think about that before getting a flight suit or a harness... :)"

Alright, no offense, but before you do more damage. Stop talking. :) You can realistically train a parrot, even a budgie, in a few months, not years. If its taking you years, you’re doing something wrong. Even my pair of 7 year old senegals I picked up with severe emotional issues, I had trained and bonded to me within a couple of months. Hand fed and raised, you should be able to finger train it easily within a few weeks. Harnesses are different, I personally don’t like them and wouldn’t use them, but for other reasons than discussed here. If you’re dead set on a harness, there are ways to go about it.




06/15/08  03:13am

 #1761590


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   Message To: TarantulaGuy   In reference to Message Id: 1761369


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After all the websites i have read, none of them said that it would take years, so i think you are right. Thanks :)
06/15/08  11:49am

 #1762396


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1761590


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Taking years to train a bird usually means something is going wrong there. It should take that long & that is a little over the top saying that.

As for hand reared birds, most people prefer them because they’re ’friendlier’ than parent reared. Although it’s true in most cases, it isn’t true in all cases. Don’t be fooled by expecting the perfect little angle just because the bird has been human reared.

Also just because it’s been hand reared does not mean the bird isn’t going to be frightened when you take it home, bite you for several days or scream. Even hand reared will do this because no amount of rearing by a human can take the fear out of the unknown, which is the birds new home & surroundings, people etc...Some birds cope better than others with moving to a complete new home & people, others do poorly. It’s a personal thing, not a rearing thing.

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it will bite you until you bleed if you try to put any harness or flight suit on



While you should do a little training with your new budgie & allow the bird to get used to you & your home, regardless of the amount of training your bird has been given it may bite you anyway at the first few sights of the harness. This is completely normal since the harness is new & a foreign object to the bird.



06/16/08  02:21am

 #1762700


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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1762396


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I think you are correct out of all the people that have replied to this thread. How old should a hand raised baby be for me to buy?
06/16/08  01:19pm

 #1763234


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1762700


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okay tarantula guy...it does some times take a few months or so but you should also have the bird get used to you and training it right when you get it can not help unless you get used to the bird and have the bird get used to you like you dont take a bird right when you get it and make it do stuff ... plus i said FULLY tarantula guy...so you can train in a few weeks or so but not fully so it will always listen to you and not get frightened by the owner or get stress off of the trainer...k?shish dont need to get so mad ok like saying "dont talk"...im just giving advice...



06/16/08  08:58pm

 #1763247


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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1763234


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I still dont think it would take years, i think it would take like 6 months for it to be trained FULLY, and when you say trained, what kind of training do you mean??? tricks?? harnesses?? flight suits?? step up?? what?
06/16/08  09:04pm

 #1763255


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1763247


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well..if you want it to be a real friend it will have to get used to you and will have to like you..trusting you is the key..and when i mean fully i mean like make improvements and better upgrades and yes others are right it only takes a few months to train a budgie like mine..but to make things seem better for you and the bird you ahve to keep trying better and more used to the trainer..like keep reviewing the things you have taught for your bird and keep trying.OKAY!!!!..yay
06/16/08  09:07pm

 #1763257


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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1763255


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improvements? better upgrades? on what??
06/16/08  09:09pm

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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1763257


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you know make it know that it you are friendly and great like it may trust you but not may know your his or her friend do more tricks and talks words..like a know a budgie thaT knows 40 words or some thing like that...im just saying it can be better.



06/16/08  09:12pm

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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1763264


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On the contrary, the first thing I do when I would get a new bird was the next day start getting it used to my hand and teaching it to step up. Treats do wonders to calm down birds that are stressed from a new environment, and training provides an apt way to give them treats while at the same time accomplishing something. The sooner you can start acclimating a bird to you the better.

And yes, a birds bond will grow stronger to you over the years, and you can always teach a bird a new trick/word/or whatever it is, but to "train" a bird in the conventional sense should *not* take years. I’m not trying to offend you, nor am I angry, but I dislike bad information being spread, especially to new owners. I’m just here to correct it, or to clarify and make things a bit easier to understand. I’ve been on this forum a *long* time under various names, so I know what its like when you’re new here and see all this information thrown at you.
06/16/08  09:46pm

 #1763359


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All true, thanks =]
06/16/08  10:11pm

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did you not hear me? yes i agree with the saying that it will take months but i was just saying so k..



06/17/08  06:40pm

 #1764367


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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1764222


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k...



06/17/08  08:55pm

 #1764539


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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1764367


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k... now that we have all that settled good luck on your future bird and have a clean enviroment in your house.. :)



06/18/08  12:51am

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   Message To: William kimmy   In reference to Message Id: 1764539


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thanks



06/18/08  11:07am

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   Message To: Sweety916   In reference to Message Id: 1764825


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settle boys......

William kimmy you need to explain yourself a little clearer for others to understand you properly. As far as I understand I agree with TarantulaGuy with everything he said. Perhaps you should explain yourself better in the future?

I would also like to point out what you say about taking a few years to FULLY train... It doesn’t matter what perspective you try & put this into, it should NOT take a few years for a bird to be FULLY trained unless you’re on a full on training & tricks program that is not standard & usually left for the expert professional trainers.

To take a few years to have a bird trust you is not good! Taking a few years for trust & FULL training as you call it only tells me that there is something amiss with the communication & lack of trust between human & the bird.

ANY parrot (with the odd accept ion of adopted parrots) should never take years to fully train & yep, I am talking FULLY....


William kimmy I think I fully understand what you’re trying to say but you are saying it all wrong & seem to be getting everything mixed up. Perhaps you need to think about what you’re trying to say before you submit your final post so people understand you. By saying FULL training, this does not include what you call "improvements". FULL training should only be a few months to one year, simple as that....

Sweety916 "improvements" I think...is meant by continually training your bird. It doesn’t matter what species you have, how little or large it is, how smart it is, you still need to keep up the training. This is NOT improvements nor is it more training in any way, nor is it FULLY training. It’s simply interacting with your bird & the training things & tricks it already knows so it doesn’t forget these, be it a budgie or an eclectus parrot, it’s the same for all parrots. Train over a few months & continue to ’renew’ if you like over a period of years. This is NOT to be mistaken for fully training a bird.


William kimmy choose HOW you say things because they’re certainly very mixed up in all your posts! I’ve also read a few of your other posts & do think you need to do a little more research. I’m not saying you haven’t researched, but there is an awful lot on the net that is absolute crap. Descriptions are also vague eg:

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if their poors look like diarea then thats bad...if they have weird liquid coming from their nostrils than thats bad...if they have bumps and lose of feathers then thats bad...if they have over grown toes and beak then thats BAD!!!

That isn’t all 100% correct to start with & saying that’s bad at the end of everything is not giving them the actual details they SHOULD have in regards to this. If you want to say these sort of things at least have the research to be able to back up exactly what & WHY it’s bad. Anyway....

Sweety916 budgies should be weaned & fully fledged by 7-8 weeks. They wean very early compared to larger parrots which can be between 3 & 7 months old.
06/20/08  08:16am

 #1767539


William kimmy
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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1767243


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ok im sry im not a good typer or a explainer..what i was trying to explain was that those diseases are caused by bad food or not a good enviroment in the house..i know that you understand what i wrote but i guess i typed it kinda weird sry anyways have a clean enviroment and good luck on your bird sweety916.. :)



06/20/08  01:37pm
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