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 #1890137


Flamingflower
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 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Please, do not provide any of your service to Kentucky Fried Chicken. The torture and abuse their animals are forced to go through is unspeakable. I know that many of you would and do disagree with PETA, but in this case I actually support them for trying to at least improve or promote better treatment of the chickens produced for this fast-food giant.

KentuckyFriedCruelty.com

http://www.youtube .com/watch?v=DOZF25L6u2k
(No space between youtube and .)

Laws that protect animals such as dogs and cats are actually dropped in regard to many farm animals. Even cows are required to be knocked senseless before slaughter, whilst chickens are sent in active, alive, and fully aware of their surroundings.
Thank you very much to all who choose a more humane option of obtaining food-



10/30/08  12:50am

 #1890198


Saucier
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

I eat meat ,but I haven’t eaten there since I found out about that.
10/30/08  08:00am

 #1890203


Lennifer
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   Message To: Saucier   In reference to Message Id: 1890198


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Good morning all.

I saw that website 4 or 5 years ago & have NEVER eaten at KFC since then! I eat meat as well, but I think it’s horrible what they do to those chickens:( I mean, I understand that they eventually have to die but in the video’s you can see the people picking them up/throwing them at the wall & kicking them for NO reason!! It seriously brought tears to my eyes. I’m a huge animal lover & In my opinion, NO animal should be treated that way. I have not looked @ the website in a couple years but I remember reading an article about how they tie their legs together & spit tobacco in their mouths. These people have no heart! I’m sorry to vent about it but I’m so glad that some1 else understands how I feel or feels the same way. My boyfriend, friends & family all still eat there & they think I’m crazy. Sorry but I will NEVER eat at KFC again as I feel I would be supporting that kind of treatment. I don’t understand how they are still aloud to operate.

~Sandy



10/30/08  08:12am

 #1890312


Reddcatt
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Hi, i have chickens, and so it hurts me to see how these chickens are kept in these big businesses...even the layer hens(the eggs we all buy at the stores), are kept in little 2 foot cages..forever..till they die or stop laying eggs..they cant even barely turn around in the cages they live in..it makes me sad when i see pictures of how they live..

Here are some of my girls...

















10/30/08  02:08pm

 #1890445


Kimforster
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   Message To: Reddcatt   In reference to Message Id: 1890312


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Well KFC in my area buy thier chooks from another reputable company, they do NOT have their own to do this sort of thing to. KFC is world wide so it’s not right to say all this when every KFC in the world cannot possibly have the same chicken farm....

I don’t eat KFC but I do see a lot of these sort of things floating around when it comes to many food companies & most of them are actually not true, just a big con to stir us up & it works.

Believe what you like about these sort of things but before you start with accusations you should do some research into it yourself. ;-) If you research properly you may actually be surprised at what you discover.
10/30/08  06:30pm

 #1890448


Kimforster
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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1890445


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

BTW, FYI Pamela Anderson got in deep s**t for that video because of her slander & absolutely NO proof.

And how about concentrating on battery hen farms? That’s what taht is, not a KFC farm since here’s no such thing...
10/30/08  06:34pm

 #1890503


Reddcatt
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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1890448


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

The battery hen farms are very sad...i cant even imagine my chickens living like that, i cant even begin to imagine how they suffer...now, dont get me wrong..i eat meat...including chicken..but, i am a strong believer that our food animals should be treated humanely, until its their time to be culled...not kept in a 2x2 box 24/7(thats just plain sick) ....thats just my opinion though..to each their own..



10/30/08  08:20pm

 #1890512


Kimforster
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   Message To: Reddcatt   In reference to Message Id: 1890503


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Don’t get me wrong, I completely agree with what you have said.

What I don’t agree with is the slander that unnecessarily goes around, the stuff that isn’t actually true. I’m not a KFC fan, never have been, but no company deserves this sort of slander unless you’re able to 100% back it up. This can’t be backed up & already had been proven untrue & as I said above, Pamela Anderson got into some major trouble over this video she made & claimed to be true.

When checking out things like this we need to dig deeper & do our research before spreading unnecessary rumours around like this.
10/30/08  08:27pm

 #1890590


Reddcatt
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   Message To: Kimforster   In reference to Message Id: 1890512


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Kim, yes, i understand what you mean... ..i also dont think we should jump on KFC..so much as the ACTUAL battery farms, that SELL to KFC.....and..to be honest...ANY of us(including me) that have bought chicken or eggs from a store has bought chickens that have lived in these same conditions..it really has nothing to do with KFC.....KFC is just doing what the rest of America is doing...to put it simply..its just cheaper for them to rasie the chickens that way...its sick, and cruel, and not right..but what can we all do?....the laws reguarding how these chickens/animals are made to live need to be changed..somehow..and not by PETA either..( sometimes they just piss me off)..., take care, Wendy
10/30/08  09:54pm

 #1890720


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   Message To: Reddcatt   In reference to Message Id: 1890590


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

It’s KFC’s choice to buy from the company (Yum! Foods) as they do. As far as I know it is KFC’s main supplier of chicken, as it is for Taco Bell and Pizza Hut. If all food industries would stop buying from mass production farms, as well as battery-cage operated farms and abusive places, there wouldn’t be this problem. But all they see are dollar bills- the cheaper the better for them. It also boils my stew when these petstores like Petco and Walmart, to name a few, keep buying beta fish and shoving them into those tiny cups till the oxygen depletes and they start to lose their color. Once gain, dollar signs are all they can see. Would it be really so hard for them to buy five gallon tanks or dividers? People often pity them and buy a couple- which is good for those fish, but not for them as a whole. It only prompts the store to order even more. If people would stop buying things from cruel sources, or even better, educate themselves, the problem of these types of abuse/cruelty would eventually be resolved. But either they don’t care, only want monetary savings in cheapness, or they don’t know.



10/31/08  02:33am

 #1890809


Lennifer
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890720


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Exactly!! KFC is choosing to purchase these chickens from this supplier, which in my opinion makes KFC just as bad! Have u looked at the website & watched the video’s?? This IS proof of what is going on! They are hidden video camera’s. Kentucky Fried Cruelty.com is where U can research if U would like!

~Sandy
10/31/08  11:26am

 #1890898


Lennifer
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   Message To: Lennifer   In reference to Message Id: 1890809


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Can u please provide a link or some sort of proof that Pam Anderson got into some deep S*** for doing this video? I have been searching for the past few hours & can’t find anything stating that she got in any trouble. What would she get in trouble for anyway? What is it that she did wrong about the video? There is clearly proof of the investigations that have been going on w/ these particular slaughter houses. It isn’t like she falsely accused KFC of doing something that was not true. So, she supposedly got in trouble 4 speaking her opinions on this animal cruelty? I’m really not trying to be rude....just trying to understand & trying to do more research/dig deeper (as u put it).

~Sandy
10/31/08  02:57pm

 #1891348


Reddcatt
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

flamingflower....heres the pics of my coop..take care, Wendy








11/01/08  03:27pm

 #1891398


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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890720


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

see though, i dislike peta. i mean i’m all for animal welfare but not animal rights. peta puts animals down for no reason. peta doesn’t want pet ownership, yet EVERY peta person i’ve EVER met has pets! and they all (the ones i’ve met) don’t care about ALL animals. about flies and bees and my pet tarantula or millipedes. (they say they’re creepy or weird and don’t care about them at all.) i agree, petco needs better animal care. scratch that, pet stores need to STOP selling animals. but the same way peta said petco’s/petsmart’s supplier rainbow farms mistreated animals, not all petcos/petsmarts have that supplier. the ny supplier is in pa not tx. now to me, a mill is a mill is a mill. and all should be stopped. but peta is annoying and a bunch of hypocrites. if they care so much about animals, instead of only protesting and causing needless death to prove a point, why don’t they set up huge rescues and shelters for unwanted critters to end out their lives happily? that’s what i would do. oh wait that’s caring about welfare, not rights. my mistake. take that as you will. (not meaning to attack anyone. just REALLY dislike peta.)
11/01/08  05:07pm

 #1891402


Manderzratz
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   Message To: Manderzratz   In reference to Message Id: 1891398


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

a quick thought- don’t pets in great homes have their rights intact? now that i think about it, my animals live better than i do- i’ve gone without meals to get them medical care in tight spots, they are completely spoiled and i run myself ragged doing anything to make them happy. i do at least 2 hours of research nightly, always willing to learn something new to improve quality of life. and i am ALWAYS making sure they are eating properly, drinking properly, pooping well, etc. i know i am not the only one either. so what rights am i trampling on? the right to be outside? hmm. well i PERSONALLY don’t want to be outside at night in 40 degrees even with a warm ski outfit and would much rather be indoors in 70-75 degree temperature. so in that sense, aren’t i giving them a right to free, clean food and water, free medical care, free warm/cool safe housing, free willing slave to control...etc. i really don’t see how i infringe upon their rights. heck, make me someone’s pet if i’d get the same care. this was to say with proper care the rescue i mentioned before could also actually be animal "rights".
11/01/08  05:17pm

 #1901137


Flamingflower
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   Message To: Manderzratz   In reference to Message Id: 1891402


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Before anyone gets any crazy thoughts (I may be too late for that,) I said that I supported Peta for "trying to at least improve or promote better treatment [of the animals.] No other groups seem to be trying too hard to help out farm animals, nor publicize the suffering they go through. Over half of the general public still believe their farm meat comes from ’Old McDonald’ type farms. Peta did indeed kill pitbulls just because of their breed. They promoted breed bans, and, among other things, they went against their own purpose. They often make any and all who stand for the rights of animals seem to be lunatics.
11/18/08  09:54pm

 #1901186


Manderzratz
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1901137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

i understand what you were saying and i agree it did help to bring it to the public view. i get kinda crazy angry when talking about peta though. just because i know so many who irk me so bad. but i really think it’s more what kimforster said. the farms themselves should be attacked, not the stores. mind you i think kfc is digusting anyhow but if the farms closed and only farms that take better care were around (when the world will be that decent of a place, who knows?) kfc will have no choice really but close or front the cash for better quality meat. but i don’t believe they support animal rights treatment, i think they’re just crazy and want something to fight against since they’re always switching up ideas and doing stuff that is anti-rights. really though, it’s so sad for the chickens/roosters. they’re such beautiful animals.
11/18/08  11:57pm

 #1901789


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   Message To: Manderzratz   In reference to Message Id: 1901186


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

quick question- Is PETA against the killing of animals for food? Or are they against killing them in a cruel way?
11/20/08  12:17am

 #1901873


School gals
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   Message To: Chaos11   In reference to Message Id: 1901789


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Peta is just simpley a group that thinks they are dong whats right, but arnt, please check out the posts on this on the dog forms, they are pretty clear about what peta is


I havnt ate meat in 2 years, and my frend hasnt in 1 year, and never have ai ate KFC in the past 5 years, =) (pretty good for like 13 year olds haha)
11/20/08  07:23am

 #1901922


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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Ok.... I already despise KFC for the way they treat their employees, the constant screwing up of orders, and even lying and covering up critical information during health or company inspections (like changing the experation date on the chicken in the freezer). But still, this video is complete crap. This was done a battery farms, where KFC buys their chicken. Just because they cuaght cruel treatment at a few battery farms that KFC buys from, doesn’t mean this happens at all battery farms with KFC clientelle. I know for a fact that MOST KFC establishments will changew their supplier if they find out about cruelty at the suppliers farm due to the fact that this further opens the chickens up for disease, contamination, or just overall terrible quality. I eat meat. I love meat. I think the animals should be treated properly until they become my slightly bloody burger, but the way PETA runs most of their protests and such are just terrible.

The one thing that pisses me off the most about them is the things they have done, like the poisoning of pits. I’ll have to post a picture of of my girlfriends neighbors dog, sadie. She’s a pit, but all she can really do to harm you in any way is lick you to death. Most pits I’ve met are very nice. The vicious ones are made that way by their owner, and this is what most people aren’t fighting hard enough against, they just go straight for the animals.
11/20/08  09:57am

 #1901938


Manderzratz
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   Message To: AvandisFifth   In reference to Message Id: 1901922


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Quote:

She’s a pit, but all she can really do to harm you in any way is lick you to death. Most pits I’ve met are very nice. The vicious ones are made that way by their owner, and this is what most people aren’t fighting hard enough against, they just go straight for the animals.


i have always agreed with that type of statement. pits are my favorite dog and my best friend’s pit is the sweetest thing. my nephew went next to it though and my mom freaked out talking about pits and rotties are evil. i think an ankle biter would hurt him more than a well raised pit. they need to be seen as the victim when they’re "bad", because no well cared for animal will choose anger or violence.
11/20/08  10:23am

 #1901945


Manderzratz
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   Message To: Chaos11   In reference to Message Id: 1901789


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Quote:

quick question- Is PETA against the killing of animals for food? Or are they against killing them in a cruel way?


peta is against having animals as pets. i can’t say they’re against killing them for either, since they kill them needlessly regardless. they just make no sense and think they’re helping animals by killing them instead of them living happily in a loving home.
11/20/08  10:34am

 #1902248


Flamingflower
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   Message To: Manderzratz   In reference to Message Id: 1901945


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

The poster who said the statement about the battery farms is partly right. It would have been better to have said not to support the Yum! Food company, but the videos dealt with
KFC instead of giving the name of the distributor. Any confusion about that is cleared too, I hope, lol. I really meant for this post to deal more with factory, mass, or battery farming... not KFC. But that was where I found the most convincing source.



11/20/08  07:40pm

 #1917552


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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1902248


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

i TOTALY agree about the cruilty to chickens. its awfull what they do to them! I havent eaten chicken in about 3 months. i know thats not much of a strike, but im trying to do my part. a have 4 pet bantam chickens named Golden Ticket, Beta, Mocah, and Crown prince. iv had Golden Ticket for almost 10 years. i love chickens SO MUCH, i can hardly beleave the cruilty to these amasing animals.



12/19/08  11:51pm

 #1919023


Kimforster
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   Message To: Bob11   In reference to Message Id: 1917552


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

I also agree about the battery farms, cruelty to chickens as well as well as cruelty to any animal. I thinks it’s gotten way out of hand.

What I don’t like is this title: "For all of you meat-eaters out there..." i think as a meat eater myself that’s totally unfair. We all have a right to eat meat or not & that’s like trying to lay on a guilt trip with that title just because we do eat meat.

Anyway, how do you know where some of us meat eaters actually get our meat from? People still live on farms & stations. We now have a large variety of free range meat organic available.

Being a meat eater does not mean we support battery farms & cruelty to animals.

Is this subject meant to be addressing cruelty to chickens in battery farms, not addressing eating meat in general? That was my impression.
12/22/08  09:07pm

 #1920838


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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1890137


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

What a pointless thread.
12/26/08  03:53pm

 #1950606


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   Message To: Reddcatt   In reference to Message Id: 1890312


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

do i see a gamefowl hen in there or something else



02/10/09  06:36pm

 #1954872


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   Message To: Reddcatt   In reference to Message Id: 1890590


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Hi there

If i may say not all KFC stores are like that!
Im from Norway all of are stores are not chicken abuser and same applies to other parts of Scandanavia eg. Sweden
I also have family dotted around like family in UK England and Scotland and the KFC’s there are not like that either
We all go by the 5 freedoms of animal rights same as of which applys to my farm evan though thats deer and elk but it is still the same
Plus people that post videos of this KFC tormentation link that to ALL KFC stores in the world when they are not actually like that
Plus how do you know its not for McDonalds chicken farm? Or in USA there is Wendys or a Taco bells?
Just to clear im not passing the torment onto another fast food company but you never know who it actually belongs too
Some people just dont like KFC food so they pass them videos off as theres just to get others to stop eating it i have seen that done on other forums and also heard when walking the streets of my home in Vestvågøy evan in Oslo and Stockholm

But needless to say ill still eat KFC here were know what the chickens have been treated were as when i travel to USA once or twice every year i dont eat takeaway so obviously i dont eat one there but i am quite partial to a Taco Bell ;)



02/18/09  04:38am

 #1955198


Flamingflower
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   Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 1954872


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Well we know they’re not ALL like that, just calling attention to the mass production/factory farming scheme. Many people don’t know where their meals come from and don’t bother to find out, so they may be eating at a restaraunt or other food distributor that is supplied by such cruel providers. Its sad that ANY restaraunt or well-to-do food place should buy from such sources, and that treatment of that kind exists anywhere is enraging. On top of it all- just be sure that you know where your food comes from, if you know then chow down, if not, either find out or find an alternative. Thanks (to the above user and the others who did) for presenting your argument the way you did- in a civilized manner. I just hope that people in all countries start to care more. (Besides, organic and free range overall tastes so much better.=)



02/18/09  05:53pm

 #1955227


Ghastly
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   Message To: Flamingflower   In reference to Message Id: 1955198


 For all of you meat-eaters out there...

Oh fully understandable if you know wherebyour food comes from then you eat it if you done then you wont
Its like if you found a dead rabbit on your doorstep or porch you wouldnt eat it would you common human sense kicks in whats happend to it? Why is it dead? And wtf is it doing on my porch? And last but not least what mother funker put it there?
Obviously a dead rabbit on your poarch or step isnt the same but hopefully you understood my example if not then oh well haha
But i will raise both arms and hands and say that all of Europe is very careful about were there animals have came from its like i sell my Quail eggs to the local gourmet restaurant they came round to my home examined my adult Quails for health check there enviroment how alert they were and if they were feeding and drinking properly they looked at there foods they got and what meals on what days also checked there poops and how alert they were along with movement i only have 4 Quail and it was ONLY the eggs i was selling not my pet birds but yet they still checked them as if the layer is healthy then she will promote good eggs
So ja i definetly put my hand up for the EU on the animal rights were veryvstrong on them :) go us :)



02/18/09  06:30pm
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