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 Whats the difference??

hi i know you can get subspecies of boa’s like bci and stuff.....but whats the difference?
can someone please tell me all the subspecies and their sizes, i think bci are the largest? am i right?
i like the look of them, also ive seen some pics of boas that are a greyish colour....could you tell me what subspecies you think they could be?
thank you...i hope this isint too much trouble :)

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03/16/08  04:41pm

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 Whats the difference??

and is there a difference between a red tail boa and boa constrcitor?
03/16/08  04:48pm

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 Whats the difference??

Redtail boa is a general petshop term for Colombian BCI or central american BCI.

True Red Tail boas are from the BCC subspecies. Peruvian, Surinam, North Brazilian, Guyanan, Venezuelan.

Colombian BCI do get large, females can reach 12 feet (very large , old boa{15 years+). Generally more like 10 feet for females, 9 feet for males.

BCC boas are the largest, but they are also slow growers. Comparitivly, a female Colombian BCI may take 2 to 3 years to reach 6 feet(some get that large in 1 year), while it will take a BCC female 5 to 7 years to reach that size. All in all, female BCC boas have been known to reach 14 feet.

BCI boas are the most varied of the Boa Constrictor subspecies, the range encompases Mexico through Colombia and Equador, and most of the Insular(island) populations. BCI holds some of the largest(Colombian) and the smallest boa constrictor( Tarahumara- Sonoran) topping out at less than 4 feet(in some cases larger, funny how genetics work ). BCI also has the most (almost all) genetic mutations(morphs i.e. Albino, Motley).

BTW there are 8 more boa subspecies. 3.5 subspecies out of the 10 are not represented in the hobby/captivity in the US. I say three and a half because BC Melanogastors are beleived to be in a very few colections but they have not to my knowledge been confirmed genuine Melanogastors. PM me with any more questions.
03/18/08  05:22pm

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   Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1666052


 Whats the difference??

thank you SOOOoooo much!!!! :)
i think i might get a bcc, do they have a common name? atm i have 1 7 month old retic, 2 corns, nd a BP but i plan to get more snakes as i do have a good amount of knowledge on all reptiles especially pythons nd monitors :) .

thanks



03/19/08  03:57pm

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   Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1666052


 Whats the difference??

thank you SOOOoooo much!!!! :)
i think i might get a bcc, do they have a common name? atm i have 1 7 month old retic, 2 corns, nd a BP but i plan to get more snakes as i do have a good amount of knowledge on all reptiles especially pythons nd monitors :) .

thanks



03/19/08  04:04pm

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   Message To: J-Star   In reference to Message Id: 1667459


 Whats the difference??

Generally BCC are sold by country of Orgin, Surinam, Peruvian... Some are sold by Locality , Pucallpa Peruvian , Pokigron Surinam...

Localitys are more expensive because of their purity, Rareness and the fact that you know where they came from.

Keep in mind that BCC are not as hardy as BCI, they have sensitive digestive systems and require less frequent feeding and smaller items to boot. They are alot more sensitive to suboptimal temperatures and humidity.

If you are truely concidering BCC read Everything on Riobravoreptiles.com. Top BCC keeper, breeder,authority. His animals are top notch and so is the price, Supersaiyansmith can attest to that . You don’t have to buy from him but the info on his site is essential.
03/20/08  06:20pm

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   Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1668984


 Whats the difference??

Redtail boas are Boa Constrictor Constrictor (BCC). They do come from Columbia, but gernerally from a different part from the common boa BCI (Boa Constrictor Imperator). It is few and far between for these 2 species to meet often in the wild, as they are separated by mountainous ground, but saying that, it’s not unheard of.

The Redtail BCC is the larger of the 2 species and commonly has a richer red tail as the name suggests.

BCI common boa don’t grow that big. males average out between 6 - 7 ft. Females 8 - 9 feet and very rarely up to 10 feet. Although this is determined by how much they are fed. Females are bigger bodied than males.

Looking into BCI further, there are several species ranging from Columbia, further south and including the Islands of the Caribbean. Some, but to name a few:

1. Hogg Island Boa BCI
2. El Salvador BCI
3. Tarahumara Moutain Boa (Mexico) BCI
4. Crawl Cay Common boa (Belize) BCI
5. Ecuador BCI
6. Costa Rica BCI
7. Honduras mainland BCI
8. Nicaragua BCI

Hope this helps.
04/01/08  06:44pm

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   Message To: Bazzer   In reference to Message Id: 1685404


 Whats the difference??

Also, when you mention sizes, you will generally find that as you move into different colour morphs, these are generally smaller, but it isn’t a written rule. I know a few breeders who have a vast array of different morphs and these are smaller than the more ’normal in appearance’ looking boas but of similar age.
04/03/08  03:38pm


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