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Schlangen View Profile |
Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/17/09 08:35pm |
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ShadowAceD View Profile |
Message To: Schlangen In reference to Message Id: 1934166 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/17/09 10:50pm |
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Schlangen View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1934207 Beginning breeder.. Help?
So If I breed a mornal F and an Albino male the babies will be norms? :(( |
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| 01/18/09 12:05pm |
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ShadowAceD View Profile |
Message To: Schlangen In reference to Message Id: 1934461 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/19/09 12:43am |
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Grampasimpson12 View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1934851 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/21/09 06:17am |
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ShadowAceD View Profile |
Message To: Grampasimpson12 In reference to Message Id: 1936229 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/21/09 09:00am |
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Schlangen View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1936264 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/21/09 07:41pm |
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Grampasimpson12 View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1936264 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/22/09 07:50pm |
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ShadowAceD View Profile |
Message To: Grampasimpson12 In reference to Message Id: 1937410 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/23/09 12:30am |
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AGoldReptiles View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1937641 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/26/09 12:33pm |
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ShadowAceD View Profile |
Message To: AGoldReptiles In reference to Message Id: 1940108 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/28/09 09:16am |
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AGoldReptiles View Profile |
Message To: ShadowAceD In reference to Message Id: 1941411 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 01/30/09 08:55pm |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: AGoldReptiles In reference to Message Id: 1943296 Beginning breeder.. Help?
The reason for this is because albinos are a ressessive gene. basically what that means is that you can not get a visual albino from breeding an albino to a normal. The reason that each baby will be 100% het albino is because the babies take one gene from the mother and one gene from the father. Each baby will carry an albino gene and a normal gene, hence why they call it 100% het albino. If you were to breed the babies back to each other, you would get a one in four chance of producing an albino. All the others would then be possible het albino. If you bred a female baby (100% het albino) back to the male visual albino you would get 50% of the litter being visual albino and 50% being 100% het albino. At the moment, i am breeding my boas. I have a visual albino and a visual hypo anery female. As anery and albino are both resessive genes, all the babies will look normal, but will carry an albino gene and an anery gene, making them double het albino anery (or in other words double het snow). That’s because if I breed the babies back to each other I could produce a snow boa. BUT, because the female is a HYPO anery, that means that 50% of the litter will be Salmon (salmon being another term for HYPO). A hypo anery is known as a ghost, which means she already carries the anery gene (because she is visual anery) and also the co-dominant gene, hypo. Hence the salmon babies will be triple het Moonglow. That means it’ll be salmon in colour, but also carry the albino and anery gene. If I breed male and female triple hets from this litter back to each other, i have a 1 in 32 chance of producing Moonglows. Therefore whoever said that you won’t get 100%het albinos is wrong. Trust me, you will. |
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| 01/30/09 11:21pm |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1943416 Beginning breeder.. Help?
Sharp strain. Kahl strain. Sharp strain is named after Brian Sharp and Kahl strain is named after Pete Kahl. Although (in albinos for example) both are albino, the gene is not compatible. So if you bred a Sharp strain albino to a Kahl strain albino you will NOT get albinos because the gene is not compatible. You may therefore wish to find out from the guy you are buying your albino from, whether it is Sharp strain or Kahl strain. In general, the Kahl strain albino fades more than the Sharp strain. My boas are Kahl strain because this is the strain I prefer to work with. |
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| 01/30/09 11:32pm |
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AGoldReptiles View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1943421 Beginning breeder.. Help?
Have a Nice Day! |
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| 02/01/09 06:55pm |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: AGoldReptiles In reference to Message Id: 1944620 Beginning breeder.. Help?
 Some people just fail to research a subject before saying they know the answer.
But hopefully this’ll make it clear to them too. |
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| 02/02/09 09:25am |
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Phoenix23 View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1944999 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 02/04/09 11:08pm |
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Fairy Frog Mother View Profile |
Message To: Phoenix23 In reference to Message Id: 1947088 Beginning breeder.. Help?
So, if Im understanding... statisticly speaking since both of mine are Aa, should they breed- their offspring should be 25% aa(Albino) and 50% Aa (Normal looking, albino gene) and 25%AA (normals) Yes? I know full well that nature likes to throw in curve balls on recessive traits. And if I breed to another albino, I up the chances of getting albino offspring to 50% with all "normal looking"offspring being 100% het? or am I totally off? |
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| 02/09/09 02:27pm |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: Fairy Frog Mother In reference to Message Id: 1949908 Beginning breeder.. Help?
Therefore if you have 2 snakes from the litter, one male and one female, both will be 100% het albino. (Na) x (Na). Therefore if you breed them together, in every 4 you should statistically get 1 normal, 2 which are 100% het albino and one visual albino BUT because the normal and hets will look the same, and you have no visual ones, you’ll have to class the normal looking babies as possible het albino. |
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| 02/09/09 05:55pm |
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Fairy Frog Mother View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1950027 Beginning breeder.. Help?
Thank you for confirmation. And they are normal- have pics up on the Boa Constrictor forum. Itll be a year or two before I even seriously think of breeding. They are far far too young now. I just want to be sure Ive done my homework- and would need to find people who want babies before I make that decision. |
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| 02/10/09 04:57pm |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: Fairy Frog Mother In reference to Message Id: 1950532 Beginning breeder.. Help?
If you breed one of yours to a visual albino, then you’ll have better odds of getting an albino in the litter than if you breed to 100% het albinos together. You’ll get half albino and half 100% het albino. If they are just babies now, you’ll need to wait at least a good 3 years before breeding. males are usually able to breed earlier than females, BUT owing to a bad experience I have had, i’d get the male up to a good size too, because a breeding female is big and heavy. My girl twisted on my male and knackered his back. As a result he was paralysed and could no longer pass stool or urates and had to be put down. the good thing is that the female I have is gravid and due in May. Here she is
and this is when she ovulated last month
and this is her a few months ago
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| 02/10/09 06:03pm |
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Fairy Frog Mother View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1950572 Beginning breeder.. Help?
Thank you for all the advice. I was told they were just over a year old in October (Making them late 07’s) but they were only fed every 10 days or so, so they are small for their age. (Or someone got dates mixed up) Im feeding them once a week now and they are growing like weeds. With all the boas for adoption in the bay area on Craigs List alone...( one guy is selling his whole collection and there were several morphs 2 others are trying to find homes for) Im not sure If I will be able to find homes for them all, and I dont want to breed if I cant sell them, or find enough homes for the entire clutch. Ill see how it goes over the next few years. Perhaps by then we will have my dads duplex in Minnesota sold (or move there) and then we will have a bigger place for more! A girl can dream. |
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| 02/11/09 09:21am |
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Bazzer View Profile |
Message To: Fairy Frog Mother In reference to Message Id: 1950906 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 02/13/09 12:51pm |
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TheRedTail View Profile |
Message To: Bazzer In reference to Message Id: 1952094 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 09/01/09 05:50pm |
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Fairy Frog Mother View Profile |
Message To: TheRedTail In reference to Message Id: 2066402 Beginning breeder.. Help?
66% Albino means that its parents were Het Albino. When you cross a Het with a Het (This old post is actually one that really helped me understand how it works) You have a 25% chance of getting albinos, 50% chance of the babies being Het Albino and 25% chance of Normal Colouration. Now...because you cant tell the difference really between the Het albinos and the normals, you call the babies 66% het albino, cause thats pretty close to the chance you get of it carrying the gene. |
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| 09/03/09 03:42pm |
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TheRedTail View Profile |
Message To: Fairy Frog Mother In reference to Message Id: 2067197 Beginning breeder.. Help?
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| 09/03/09 08:00pm |
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