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 #1600803


Lil_josh
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 Cypress Mulch

can you buy Cypress Mulch from stores like home depot or dose it have to be from a pet shop



01/29/08  08:47pm

 #1601560


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Lil_josh   In reference to Message Id: 1600803


 Cypress Mulch

Cypress mulch from a pet store is "Pet Grade" meaning it has been cleaned and sterilize through a heating process to remove and kill any harmful parasites and bacteria.

Cypress mulch from Home Depot has not had this done because it’s intended for use around trees and in flower beds.

So..."can" you use it? Yes.

But "would I" use or recommend it??? Hell No!!!



01/30/08  02:09pm

 #1603707


Lil_josh
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1601560


 Cypress Mulch

thank you for the post



01/31/08  08:14pm

 #1604078


Addicted
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  Message To: Lil_josh   In reference to Message Id: 1603707


 Cypress Mulch

I disagree,as long as there are no pesticides or impurities in it you would be a o k.Snakes and other reptiles do not live in sterile environments in the wild do they?It’s only mulch!I’m sure i could sleep on it with no problems...LoL.



02/01/08  12:33am

 #1604118


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1604078


 Cypress Mulch

Addicted...You’re wrong.

Let me qualify that...

If his snake was wild caught and already HAD exposure to those bacteria from birth and already HAD mites...

Then you would be correct!

But I am going out on a limb here...I’m guessing this isn’t a wild caught snake!!! Probably captive bred and captive hatched!!

That being said...it does not have an immune system hearty enough to deal with the possibilities!

This is why thousands of American Indians died of small pox when the "White Man" came over! They had never been exposed to anything like this and they didn’t have the genetic immunity.

And I could guarantee mites from "Home Improvement Yard-Quality" mulch!



02/01/08  01:27am

 #1605883


Lil_josh
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1604118


 Cypress Mulch

sooo should i should i not???



02/02/08  11:48am

 #1607609


Boasandballs
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  Message To: Lil_josh   In reference to Message Id: 1605883


 Cypress Mulch

Make sure it says cypress mulch. not cypress blend. The blend can be with ceder and that is not good. Zoo med and t-rex re-pack the stuff from cam bark and do not heat treat it. I know this because I buy it from the same place they do. You can kill the bugs in it by freezing it also.

Lynn



02/03/08  02:55pm

 #1608876


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Lil_josh   In reference to Message Id: 1605883


 Cypress Mulch

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sooo should i should i not???

You have to ask after you read my last post?

If you get mulch from a "Home & Garden" type store...It has NOT been sanitized for "PET USE"!!!

If you use it your snake could become sick from internal parasites and bacteria that will KILL IT!!!

Now...Was that clear?

If you want to possibly kill your snake...Go for it!

If you want your snake to stay healthy...buy pet grade bedding!

OR...You could take my advice from a previous thread and just use newspaper on the bottom of the enclosure.

It’s inexpensive!

Easy to get!!

And newspaper makes it very easy to clean your snake’s enclosure!!!



02/04/08  05:26am

 #1609198


Boasandballs
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1608876


 Cypress Mulch

If you use newspaper you will need a humid hid box. BRB need a high humidity and the cypress is a good way to add humidity. Generously clean dirty spots and change everything every 6 months.



02/04/08  02:11pm

 #1609576


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Boasandballs   In reference to Message Id: 1609198


 Cypress Mulch

I use newspaper and my humidity is always 75%...and I do NOT have a humid-hide!

Do not speak in "absolutes" when giving out info if you don’t know what you’re talking about.



02/04/08  06:30pm

 #1609852


Boasandballs
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1609576


 Cypress Mulch

Excuse me, Do not think you know more than everyone around you if you want respect.



02/04/08  08:39pm

 #1609923


317_boa
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  Message To: Boasandballs   In reference to Message Id: 1609852


 Cypress Mulch

Scylla,Travis,and GA are 3 of the top people to get info from. They know alot about reptiles.



02/04/08  09:06pm

 #1610081


KAMANDAG
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1609576


 Cypress Mulch

Quote:

...I do NOT have a humid-hide!


What’s a humid-hide? What is it for exactly? Pictures will help.

Thanks, dudes!



02/04/08  10:07pm

 #1610085


Boasandballs
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  Message To: 317_boa   In reference to Message Id: 1609923


 Cypress Mulch

Maybe so, but I have been breeding boas for over 25 years and have a collection that most people would die to have. From the posts I have read this person still has a lot to learn, and one of them is how to be nice. Brb’s need help achieving the additional humidity they need. If the person that lead this post live in an arid state and uses only newspaper as a substrate their pet will have problems. I was only making suggestion as an alternative to the cypress. One suggestion could also be made for a larger than normal water bowl. Can you see my point.

Adult BRBs require a minimum humidity level of 75%+. Should humidity drop into the 60’s or 50’s for an extended period of time the results can be respiratory infections, regurgitation, and death by dehydration. For my adults I make a “damp hide” from a sweater box size tub with two access holes in one side. I put 1 inch of peat moss and one inch of green moss. Both nice and damp.

Neonates should be kept at or near 95%+ humidity. I accomplish this with a fairly tight fitting shoebox rack. The substrate in these is cypress mulch. There’s always condensation at the front. Temps for babies should be right around 77 degrees.


PS The cypress mulch that is bought in pet stores is not heat treated. I should know I sell it to the pet stores. Ant the mulch that is sold at some of the southern home depo stores is safe. You must make sure it is pure cypress mulch not a cypress blend.



02/04/08  10:11pm

 #1610759


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Boasandballs   In reference to Message Id: 1610085


 Cypress Mulch

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Maybe so, but I have been breeding boas for over 25 years and have a collection that most people would die to have.

Good for you! Now drop the bad attitude.

Quote:

From the posts I have read this person still has a lot to learn, and one of them is how to be nice. Brb’s need help achieving the additional humidity they need. If the person that lead this post live in an arid state and uses only newspaper as a substrate their pet will have problems. I was only making suggestion as an alternative to the cypress. One suggestion could also be made for a larger than normal water bowl. Can you see my point.

Yes...I see your point but...When you speak in absolutes like that when that is not the only thing that will work...then Yes...I will say something.

When you said..."If you use newspaper you will need a humid hid box. BRB need a high humidity and the cypress is a good way to add humidity. Generously clean dirty spots and change everything every 6 months."

This is good general advice for someone that uses a screen-topped tank...but not a tub!

Quote:

dult BRBs require a minimum humidity level of 75%+...Neonates should be kept at or near 95%+ humidity.

You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know. Go preach to someone who asks about basic BRB info.

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The cypress mulch that is bought in pet stores is not heat treated. I should know I sell it to the pet stores. Ant the mulch that is sold at some of the southern home depo stores is safe. You must make sure it is pure cypress mulch not a cypress blend.

I know too many people who have tried "Gardening Quality" mulches and have ended up with health issues with their Boas and Pythons.

If you want to take chances like this...fine!

But giving this out as husbandry advice and I will speak up with the possible health consequences.

And I will not speak in absolutes either unless it warrants it!!



02/05/08  03:25pm

 #1611904


Boasandballs
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  Message To: KAMANDAG   In reference to Message Id: 1610081


 Cypress Mulch

I provide damp hide boxes. A sweater box size for adults with holes in the sides. An inch of peat moss and another inch of green moss. All kept damp. BRB’s love to hide in this



02/05/08  11:38pm

 #1611921


317_boa
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  Message To: Boasandballs   In reference to Message Id: 1611904


 Cypress Mulch

I just got a RTB and was woundering if coconut bark is a good substrate? I have her on newspaper and would like to try coconut bark as a substrate.



02/05/08  11:58pm

 #1611991


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: 317_boa   In reference to Message Id: 1611921


 Cypress Mulch

I would imagine you could...but why not ask this question over in the "Red Tail Boa" forum?!?!



02/06/08  01:25am

 #1635524


Ambiguous666
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  Message To: Lil_josh   In reference to Message Id: 1600803


 Cypress Mulch

jesus no need for these ridiculous arguement...



just buy it at the dang pet or reptile shop and be safe.



02/24/08  12:17am

 #1635642


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: Ambiguous666   In reference to Message Id: 1635524


 Cypress Mulch

Who’s arguing?!

The conversation has been over for weeks.

Nobody is arguing about anything!?!?!



02/24/08  03:53am

 #1638158


Ambiguous
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1635642


 Cypress Mulch

haha



02/25/08  11:48pm

 #1638434


KM
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1608876


 Cypress Mulch

Quote:

If you use it your snake could become sick from internal parasites and bacteria that will KILL IT!!!



Mulch in North America is going to harbor reptilian parasites? Exactly what parasites are you talking about? Some eggs can survive outside of a host for years but those eggs still have to be deposited in the first place. Are you proposing that infected snakes slithered along the mulch, defecated, conditions consistently remained right, and the mulch therefore harbors parasite eggs? You also mentioned mites earlier...I’m not aware of mites that would be able to survive that long without a host. Could you provide me with some examples of these parasites that you’re talking about?



02/26/08  10:05am

 #1638652


ScyllaCharybdis
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  Message To: KM   In reference to Message Id: 1638434


 Cypress Mulch

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Could you provide me with some examples of these parasites that you’re talking about?

No...because I don’t like your "tone". It’s obvious you’re just looking to pick a fight with someone.

Go somewhere else and try it with someone else.



02/26/08  02:31pm

 #1639739


Ambiguous666
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  Message To: ScyllaCharybdis   In reference to Message Id: 1638652


 Cypress Mulch

whoooooooo! haha tone.



02/27/08  04:03am


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