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 #1962729


87rx7chick
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 New to snakes

i am not new to reptiles but i am new to snakes. i got one from a craigs list trade. guy called me about a 55 gal long i had for sale, i told him about a new pet store to check out and he went and bought a yellow and black boa or something really expencive and told me cuz he was trying so hard to find that snake that he’d trade the rainbow or tree python for my tank. i chose the rainbow boa over the baby tree python knowing how those were slightly more difficult to take care of.


i drove home 3 exits up the freeway with the boa on my hand. he put up with ALOT as i dorve home trying not to let him leave my arm.
i got home and realized how much the snake put up with and never bit me. i was happy.

when i got home from work tonight i opend the tank to see how the temps were and humidity. and the silly thing went to bite me. idk it was sto quick to tell if it was open mouth or not.

coming on here i saw this picture



how much does it hurt to have this snake bite you? i assume it does bleed. the previous owner said this boa never ever bit him. i gave the snake 5 min to calm down and get out of the "strike" pose and i pet it and took it out and he just wanted to get back in his tank.

n e way, so ya, whats with the bite? :)



03/03/09  10:13pm

 #1962745


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  Message To: 87rx7chick   In reference to Message Id: 1962729


 New to snakes

That was a stupid thing to do,driving around with the snake like that.Next time contain it.

Anyway,snake bites hurt,depending on the size of them.





Jason.



03/03/09  10:41pm

 #1962774


87rx7chick
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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1962745


 New to snakes

um.............. yeah thanx for the nice warm welcome to this section of the forum....

i am sure i’ll post up further just because you were so helpfull and nice!!!!

u think i knew to contain it or not? or you think i am just to stupid to have thought of that. we didnt have anything safe to "contain" it in, rather not put it in something unsafe. and up till the last 2 min it was just balled up in my hand untill it decided to crawl up my arm..

but thanx for making me feel oh so welcome and feel oh so good about myself! i’ll look forward to reading your further replies on this section of the forum!

could some one please help me with my question about the fangs of a rainbow boa?



03/03/09  11:24pm

 #1962781


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  Message To: 87rx7chick   In reference to Message Id: 1962774


 New to snakes

You Don’t have to post here,you know.I Don’t care.People will point things like this out on forums,That’s the way things work.If you Can’t deal with it then forums may not be for you.

You knew you were going to get the snake,right?,you said it.Do you not have pillow cases on your pillows,how about a sterilite tub.Every herper has them around.

Jason.



03/03/09  11:36pm

 #1962782


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1962781


 New to snakes

Oh,the fangs of a rainbow are rather large.And BTW,when you bring a new animal home you should let it settle in for about a week before messing with it.

Jason.



03/03/09  11:40pm

 #1962793


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1962782


 New to snakes

The store you bought him from could and should have provided a way for you to get it home safe, even if it was a paper bag rolled and stapled at the top, or a plastic tub if its small enough.

Generally, snakes need time to get used to an entire world of new smells, vibrations, unfamiliar territory. It Im sure is freaked out and cranky and thinking "WTF". Being that biting and hiding are their only defense...it bit you when it couldn’t hide.

Make sure it has a hiding area in both the warm and cold side of your enclosure that has slightly damp moss in it as well as plenty of water and humidity. Don’t try to feed or handle it for a week. After a week feed it first, and let it have a few more days privacy while it digests its meal, then start handling it little by little. (snakes should not be held for a couple days after feeding. It can cause them to regurgitate which is very unhealthy.) If you are afraid of bites, invest in some decent leather work gloves. Hold it for short periods at first, and slowly work into longer periods. If the snake isn’t eating, let it be and give it more time. Rainbows are notorious for being shy at first, but generally warm up to being held. It sounds like your snake is really scared there.

There are some great care sheets you can find on Kingsnake.com.



03/04/09  12:20am

 #1962989


87rx7chick
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  Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 1962793


 New to snakes

oh i didnt buy it from a store. the guy wanted to put it in the plastic container he just bought a snake in but the snake that was in it wouldnt come out and kept biting me, i had little to no time to wait cuz i was late for work. its a long story....

i am not afraid of a bite i am afraid of a deep puncture wound, and curious if it is common to get an infection from a snake bite due to the bacteria in the mouth. that kinds of things, the stuff that care sheets havent told me.

i know about the warm and cold side and how 90 is to hot for the guy, damp bedding, place for soaking, hides. i got a store bought rock dome style hide and a huge piece of flat cork as another hide which he seems to love.



03/04/09  12:10pm

 #1963090


Fairy Frog Mother
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  Message To: 87rx7chick   In reference to Message Id: 1962989


 New to snakes

IF you get tagged: Wash it in Betadine or pour peroxide over it. Encourage it to bleed a little. Put a clean bandage over it with neosporin or triple antibiotic and you should be fine. Basic first aid as if you got poked by a needle.

Watch for the usual signs of infection you can get from any wound. Simple as that.

And, I must say, thats an impressive bite there in that photo. Ive only been tagged by a snake once (Im VERY lucky and a big fan of the cloth over the head of an agressive or defensive animal.) Never have I seen one bleed out like that from a snake- but Im used to boa constrictors and kingsnakes. (Im sure others have seen it before) Monitors...yes...that and worse. Owie.



03/04/09  03:59pm

 #1963383


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  Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 1963090


 New to snakes

Wow some people can be ignorant pricks!!!... Sorry about that rude welcome.... Well i just wanna tell you that rainbows are awesome snakes.. I’ve had mine since August and he is so amazing..Probably my favourite snake yet... I got him when he was about 18 inches and now he is almost 4.5 feet... Grew so so fast... He is so tame and has never even tried to strike at me... Well one time cause i touched his tail right when i put him in his feeding bin...I think he thought i was the rat.... But ya he is so docile and you should be proud to own a rainbow boa........ As for the fangs. they are pretty big but i promise you that with regular handling you won’t ever have to worry about them......

Sorry for rambeling but i just love when i hear of someone getting their first rainbow... This is mine






03/05/09  01:11am

 #1963453


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  Message To: Phoenix23   In reference to Message Id: 1963383


 New to snakes

Quote:

Wow some people can be ignorant pricks!!!.



Yes you are.

I’m not the one who knowingly went to pick up a snake without anything to put it in,That’s ignorant IMO.

Jason.



03/05/09  07:55am

 #1963525


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1963453


 New to snakes

I got my first rainbow. She is sooo pretty. Sometimes she is a little nippy but for the most part she is really nice. I dont know how to post pictures, or i would put some up.



03/05/09  11:08am

 #1963528


Fairy Frog Mother
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  Message To: Bettymonroe   In reference to Message Id: 1963525


 New to snakes

If the pictures are in a file in your computer, Photobucket is my site of choice. It makes it really easy!
(there are other sites too, but I have had great results with them, and its the right price- FREE.)
You just have to remember what file you stored your pictures in on your computer.



03/05/09  11:14am

 #1963689


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  Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 1963528


 New to snakes

hope this works. This is Amilia





03/05/09  05:02pm

 #1963799


87rx7chick
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  Message To: Bettymonroe   In reference to Message Id: 1963689


 New to snakes

Addicted. your aditute is not welcome here and you should find better use of your time then irritating and scarring off people just looking for simple information, you sir are a jackass, i am sorry to say.

i explaned myself about the container issue. if you do not care about my explanation then why do you even care about my post or any issue, if you are not trying to help then why are you posting? if your just bored i recomend other forums to hastle other people about life issues that you would be 100% correct on any advice you give.

:) i fed her today, i think she is a she cuz her tail is very thin above and below the vent there are no buldges, no i havent gotten her sexed but right now i believe she is a she.

she looked a bit confused once she killed the hopper, couldnt find the hed. kept bitting its belly and pushing it with her nose. it was rather funny. but she seemed very happy to see the hopper in her tank. i plan on upgrading her to the 20 gal long as i clean it out and get a new container for the crickets.



03/05/09  09:03pm

 #1964101


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  Message To: 87rx7chick   In reference to Message Id: 1963799


 New to snakes

now i noticed to said "seeing the hopper in her tank".... I would suggest you feed her in a seperate container... When i first got mine i just used a shoe box....After awhile you’ll need something bigger so i went to the buck store and got a big rubbermaid container.... I feed all my snakes in that now



03/06/09  02:06pm

 #1964174


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  Message To: Phoenix23   In reference to Message Id: 1964101


 New to snakes

Ask any experienced herper and all will agree feeding in the cage is the best way to feed snakes.Especially when you move in to larger animals.There is absolutely no need to move a snake to feed it.

Jason.



03/06/09  05:06pm

 #1964200


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1964174


 New to snakes

well i respectfully disagree... Everyones entitled to their opinions...



03/06/09  06:11pm

 #1964201


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1964174


 New to snakes

This is quoted from the Pro exotics website,GREAT reptile breeders.

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Should I feed my snake/lizard/gecko in a separate container?

No. Nope. Nyet. Good grief, NO.

There are some pieces of "advice" that continually float around, and never go away. They are constantly recycled, often regurgitated without actual thought to new keepers struggling to separate good advice from bad.
There is no sensible or logical reason to feed your reptile in a separate container. The most common reasoning is that it "trains" the animal not to bite when you go in the cage.

There are two basic reasons your animal strikes when you go in the cage. Most likely it is a defensive strike, as you have startled the animal (perhaps woken it up), and it is defending itself. Learn how to approach your animal better, don’t grab it by the head, or from in front of the nose. "Wake it up" before snatching it out.

The other common strike is due to the fact that you SMELL LIKE FOOD. Don’t wear "rat cologne" and don’t feed by hand. Use a hemostat for goodness sakes! Again, this is not the fault of the animal, this is due to the ignorance of the keeper, and it is easily remedied.

Feeding in a separate container does not "train" the animal to be tamer when you go in the cage (you still "go in the cage" to inititiate feeding). And in itself it does not prevent impactions of particulate substrates like soil or mulch.

You know what DOES prevent impactions? Proper husbandry! We have kept thousands of reptiles, snakes and lizards, on MANY different substrates, and feeding doesn’t cause impactions. Bad choices do.
Impactions are most often caused by low hydration levels. When an animal is dehydrated, nothing is going flow as smoothly as it should. When an animal is kept too cool, metabolism is not going to run well enough to pass substrates and other non-digestibles.

I suppose if you kept your gecko on a substrate of crushed glass, then any glass consumed while feeding would cause a problem. But that is because you chose CRUSHED GLASS (or walnut shells, or some other poor substrate). Pick an appropriate substrate. Don’t chronically dehydrate your animals (a SUPER common problem and misunderstanding in reptile husbandry) and give your animals the necessary range of temperatures to accomplish life events (like pooping!).

And stop feeding in a separate container. That is just dopey.



Jason.



03/06/09  06:12pm

 #1964429


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  Message To: Addicted.   In reference to Message Id: 1964201


 New to snakes

Well then i respectfully dissagree with them too.....



03/07/09  03:37am

 #1964489


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  Message To: Phoenix23   In reference to Message Id: 1964429


 New to snakes

Why do you believe it is a good idea to move an animal to a feeding tub? It does nothing but stress the animal,and make picky feeders not eat.And then when you get in to big snakes it is very bad,can you imagine moving a 100-200 pound burm or retic with the smell of food in the air.Very dangerouse and stressful to the animal.

If your worried about impaction that is a non issue,it is not going to happen to a healthy snake.They certainly are not put in to a sterilite tub in the jungle,they ingest sticks and dirt all the time.

Jason.



03/07/09  09:50am


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