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 #2285423


RedRaven
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 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Hello,

I have had my female BRB a little more than a year now and in that time, she has gone into shed quite regularly, about once every 30 days or so. A couple of weeks before she started showing signs of her most recent shed, I noticed a few patches of scales that looked amiss:



(sorry for the cell quality pics)

After she shed, the patches that were off before are not smooth. They came out like the ones visible in the bottom of the second photo, all wrinkly.
No after picture, sorry, she just ate and then buried herself in her substrate. Once she re-appears I will take a shot.

What causes this? Should I be worried? What can I do to prevent this from happening in the future?



11/15/12  12:17am

 #2285550


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  Message To: RedRaven   In reference to Message Id: 2285423


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

My best guess would be a fungal or bacterial infection, RedRaven. Did you save any of the shed skin? How did those patches look on it? I would get her to a reptile vet and have him take a swab sample of two of those areas (he can combine them in one test package) and send them off to a lab to check. Fungal tests are not usually that expensive, and pretty quick to run. In the meantime, carefully quaratine her from your other herps, just in case.

As for cause...that’s a tough one. Keep in mind that every creature -- snake, dog, even human -- carries countless microorganisms with and in them all their lives, and encounters countless more in their daily environment. Some of those are pathogenic, some are enviromental with a low chance of causing an opportunistic infection. Usually, they do not cause problems, kept in check by solid hygiene and a robust immune system. Sometimes, however, a break in either of those defenses will give the intruder the upper hand, resulting in illness. Think of an RI in a snake, or athlete’s foot in a human. Provided the animal is otherwise healthy and prompt medical attention is given, recovery is usually quick and fine.

As I said, get her to a vet to determine what the underlying cause is, and then you can treat it. To prevent a reoccurrence, make sure to bleach-clean her tank and all furnishings as part of the process.

I wish you the best of luck!

Cliff Earle
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11/16/12  03:54pm

 #2285570


RedRaven
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  Message To: Snakesitter   In reference to Message Id: 2285550


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Thank you for the reply! I appreciate your explanation and advice very much. I have read many of your posts on a few forums and must say that your rainbow boas are superb. I couldn’t ask for a better source.

I did save the shed. To give to a friend so she could use it for a snake skin manicure. So much for that evidence. She is unburied now and one patch of the wrinkly scales is greying at the tips again.
Sounds like a trip to the vet is in order!! And a thorough cleaning.



11/16/12  11:39pm

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  Message To: RedRaven   In reference to Message Id: 2285570


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

I had scale rot at one time on the under belly of my rainbow ...it was corrected rapidly by reducing the humidity in the hide area...and letting the substrate overall dry out somewhat more than I was used too.

I am looking forward to hearing back from you and the results of the vet visit...

Get well soon.



11/17/12  06:29am

 #2285845


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  Message To: RedRaven   In reference to Message Id: 2285570


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Always happy to help, RedRaven. Thanks for the kind words on my boas and posts, I’m glad to know they are appreciated!

I too would love to know how the vet visit goes.

All the best,


Cliff Earle
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11/19/12  06:33pm

 #2286389


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  Message To: Snakesitter   In reference to Message Id: 2285845


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Hello everybody! Thanks for your concern and advice.

I took Aphrodite to a vet that specializes in reptiles. It was a bit stressful getting her there because it is currently snowing where I live and my Jeep has no winter tires.
Anyhow, the vet checked her out and everything is okay. She is going into shed again so the scales will hopefully go back to normal with a new shed. Other than that, she is healthy and alert, maybe a little overweight.


Because she lives in a home with quite a few other snakes, the vet recommended blood work and a fecal sample to check for parasites. A fecal sample that is less than two hours old. Since she is a very secretive critter and only comes out to poo late at night (usually in her water dish while she swims), how would I gather a viable sample?



11/26/12  06:54pm

 #2286393


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  Message To: RedRaven   In reference to Message Id: 2286389


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Glad to hear the vet thought she looked fine! I’d still keep a wary eye on those patches though, just in case....

As for fresh fecals, all I can say is good luck. I rarely have any luck getting those myself. Your best bet is to check each morning and hope you get something fresh enough. If you’re really driven, you could try checking every few hours during the night, but I imagine that would stress both her and you.

Good luck,


Cliff Earle
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11/26/12  07:21pm

 #2286400


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  Message To: Snakesitter   In reference to Message Id: 2286393


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Yup, happy as a proverbial clam.
I scoffed at the idea of a fresh fecal sample. Unless I’m very very lucky it is very unlikely I can catch her in the act, so to speak.
Her belly is quite pink, so she is definitely pre-shed. I has suspected as much when she struck at the F/T rat I offered her on Saturday... only to come back and find her cuddling with it. Silly girl. We shall see how the patches appear after she completes her shed in a week or so.



11/26/12  08:54pm

 #2286576


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  Message To: RedRaven   In reference to Message Id: 2286400


 Patches of abnormal scales pre and post-shed please advise

Fingers crossed!



11/28/12  01:58pm


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