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 #1055657


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 Need some suggestions

Well,come to find out the new central american i got has not eaten in 3 weeks.I went back to the store today to talk to the so called reptile guy and was told he has not been able to get it to eat since they got it in.i have tried fuzzy mice and pinkies but with no luck,does anyone have any suggestions for this situation.If i can’t get it to eat very soon i am going to return it,if it is sick i want to get it out of my house asap.Most of my snakes have been well established when i got them so i am new to this situation. Should i return him,get a pinkie pump or try for a few more days to get him to eat,i don’t want to put my other snakes at risk.



11/10/06  05:59pm

 #1055680


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1055657


 Need some suggestions

Neonates often have feeding problems. Try mice hoppers and rat pinkies. If youre feeding frozen/thawed, try live. If that doesn’t work cut open the rat (not the live one!). If youre feeding during the day try night, If hes shy leave him alone for awhile, or overnight, with his prey. You may try dethawing the rat in chicken broth. Of course the last form of action is force feeding. Some boas just won’t eat... our local petshop had one die on them that refused too long, they tried forcefeeding but I really don’t think they had any idea what they were doing.. so if it goes that far I’d consult a vet or someone with experience so you don’t do more harm than good.



11/10/06  06:14pm

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  Message To: Thyroidless   In reference to Message Id: 1055680


 Need some suggestions

I’v tried dangling a mouse pinkie around him,and then leaving it in overnight but no luck.tonight i tried dangling a mouse fuzzy but no strike so i’m going to leave it in overnight.I’m not sure where i would get live mice that small around here but i will look into it tomorrow.i was told once that you could aggravate them into striking and then they sometimes will continue to eat after the defensive strike but that did not work,why i don’t know because he strikes at everything but food.thanks for the info it’s a big help i have never had to deal with this before.



11/10/06  06:31pm

 #1055715


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1055704


 Need some suggestions

Good luck. You may want to try cutting the rat/mouse open to get the scent out. When our big girl went off feed something similiar worked for us. She only eats live so we obviously couldnt cut the rat open, but put rabbit blood on the live rat and she took that no problem with all else failed (Though the rat wasn’t too fond of it). Keep trying, hopefully something will work.



11/10/06  06:40pm

 #1055777


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  Message To: Thyroidless   In reference to Message Id: 1055715


 Need some suggestions

I just called every place i could think of for live fuzzies but nobody has them.Probably a stupid question but i am out of options for finding live,where could i find live fuzzies besides pet shops.



11/10/06  07:55pm

 #1055790


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1055777


 Need some suggestions

Have you taken him to the vet to see if he is healthy? Maybe there is another reason why he hasnt eaten? But if he is a boa, cant they eat full grown mice when they’re born? I’d be feeding small mice. The move a bit more and that’ll get him started :) G’luck!!!



11/10/06  08:08pm

 #1055802


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  Message To: KittyJ   In reference to Message Id: 1055790


 Need some suggestions

I just got him last night so i am going to try to get him to eat for a few days,and there is no way he could take anything down larger than a fuzzy mouse.take a look at my post under new central american,he’s tiny.



11/10/06  08:20pm

 #1055820


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1055802


 Need some suggestions

You might also want to try a rat pinkie. They are about the same size as fuzzy mice, and thats what mine was started on. In addition to being more nutritious, perhaps the new smell may entice him. Good luck, keep us updated!



11/10/06  08:38pm

 #1056128


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  Message To: HGF   In reference to Message Id: 1055820


 Need some suggestions

I’ve never tried this with a boa, but it works great with baby balls when they go off feed......Crumple up a bunch of newspaper into balls and put a BUNCH of them in the enclosure with him. Don’t pack it completely full, but put plenty in there to give him lots of places to hide and feel secure. Don’t handle him for a week. Try feeding him after a week and then hopefully you will have some luck. Remove the newspaper balls a few at a time each day, until they’re all gone. Good luck!



11/11/06  02:23am

 #1056171


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  Message To: Lori77   In reference to Message Id: 1056128


 Need some suggestions

I had the same problem when i got my little guy, he didn’t eat for nearly 6 weeks - first though check that the temps are up high enough - 92 in the warm end, and that he has PLENTY of places to hide. Don’t try and re-feed him once he’s refused a meal for a full week, and during that time don’t handle him at all and just leave him to settle. Also try putting the food in warm water so that it’s a more ’life-like’ temperature. The paper ball idea sounds great too - good idea Lori! wish someone had suggested that to me. I guess if he’s a small snake in a big enclosure he could be scared and defensive, and you can’t defend yourself with a mouth full of food! Good luck with him - i know how worrying it is...



11/11/06  04:22am

 #1056450


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  Message To: Milos2904   In reference to Message Id: 1056171


 Need some suggestions

Quote:

I’ve never tried this with a boa, but it works great with baby balls when they go off feed......Crumple up a bunch of newspaper into balls and put a BUNCH of them in the enclosure with him. Don’t pack it completely full, but put plenty in there to give him lots of places to hide and feel secure. Don’t handle him for a week. Try feeding him after a week and then hopefully you will have some luck. Remove the newspaper balls a few at a time each day, until they’re all gone. Good luck!



I’ve been doing that with my new arrivals. Works great.



11/11/06  01:02pm

 #1056456


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  Message To: Milos2904   In reference to Message Id: 1056171


 Need some suggestions

If you have a feed store around you you can probably get a chick. That may spark a responce. Another thing i have found that works is to , open the cage and put a pre killed item on the oposite side the snake is on. Wait 10 minutes(works best if snake is hide) and then open the cafge and dangle the rat. Works for me everytime. That gets the sent out there and them interested and then the dangleing rodent gets them to strike. You havent been handleing her at all right? And your only offering every 7 days right. (I didn’t read the tread too good)If your offering often you will just stress the boa out and make it not want to feed. Sometimes i will get a responce by touching the boas nose with the rat but more often then it working it scares them.



11/11/06  01:11pm

 #1056543


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  Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1056456


 Need some suggestions

You said you just got him last night. Why wouldn’t you wait the normal one week period to get him to eat? I mean you seem to know your stuff, but why try to feed a snake you just got?
He’s probably stressed out enough by the move.

I know we’ve had our differences in the past but, seems like you’re rushing him to eat.



11/11/06  02:41pm

 #1056666


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  Message To: Coop   In reference to Message Id: 1056543


 Need some suggestions

Seriously, same to my boa Mervin..he’s still not eating live nor frozzen. He usualy eats frozzen but since winter hit here he stopped eating. I got his temp up but he moves from it to the cold side..He’s only 3 years old 4.11feet. I’m thinking of taking him to the vet, but some people say its normal for a boa to do that. I got my little girl here and she ate like a pig! Maybe its the breeding season.



11/11/06  04:27pm

 #1056800


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  Message To: Forsaken   In reference to Message Id: 1056666


 Need some suggestions

Great advice guys I’m sure i can get him to eat with all the info i got,I would let him settle in for a bit before offering food but he has not eaten in 3 weeks or maybe a little longer.I thought it would be good to get something in him.If you think i should still wait let me know.



11/11/06  06:15pm

 #1057084


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1056800


 Need some suggestions

Well,I’m new to dealing with neonates so should i try to feed or wait a week.i just figured that since it had not ate in some time that i should try to feed,am i wrong?



11/11/06  11:10pm

 #1059029


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1057084


 Need some suggestions

There’s no harm in trying to feed right away , but don’t keep trying every day. I try to feed the first day and if they eat great, if not I wait a full week to let them settle and try again. I only offer food once a week. If they don’t eat they miss a week. I don’t try every 2 or 3 days. Sunday’s feeding day and they eat or wait till next Sunday.



11/13/06  04:07pm

 #1059116


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  Message To: Coop   In reference to Message Id: 1059029


 Need some suggestions

Addicted eny thing new about the little dude?



11/13/06  04:49pm

 #1059136


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  Message To: Coop   In reference to Message Id: 1059029


 Need some suggestions

He’s an eater,I’m sure the pet shop just did not know what they were doing.They could not get him to eat for 3+ weeks but last night,only 2 days after i had him he chowed down 2 live fuzzies.I drove about a hour to get them and got home around 6:00 pm then dropped the little buggers in.not being too optomistic i figured they would just be dead when i went to bed around midnight but much to my surprise they were gone.the little guy was just sitting up high on a branch staring down at a little pool of blood where two babies used to be.thanks for all the great tips i will remember all that next time i get a picky youngster.



11/13/06  05:01pm

 #1059143


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1059136


 Need some suggestions

glad to hear



11/13/06  05:05pm

 #1059205


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  Message To: Nelson jacobson   In reference to Message Id: 1059143


 Need some suggestions

Thanks nelson,i might be getting the scrub this weekend too.I just talked to the guys a minute ago and they assured me he had a really nasty temper,so hopefully i won’t be posting any bit pics either.This would be my first experience with a snake that just wants to bite all the time.



11/13/06  05:36pm

 #1059614


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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1059205


 Need some suggestions

Just so you know. When you get a new boa baby or adult you should allow it a week minimum to calm down and settle in. No matter how long it’s been since it ate.



11/13/06  08:52pm


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