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 #1669441


Carales
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 Can a redtail boa and a python

can a redtail boa and a python be in the cage together? and if so will they mate. if not can the be around each other at all?



03/20/08  11:27pm

 #1669445


CONSTRIKTR
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  Message To: Carales   In reference to Message Id: 1669441


 Can a redtail boa and a python

1. no
2. no
3. why would they be?



03/20/08  11:29pm

 #1669446


Carales
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  Message To: CONSTRIKTR   In reference to Message Id: 1669445


 Can a redtail boa and a python

i have a ball python and a redtail boa and i didnt know if they could be around each other



03/20/08  11:33pm

 #1669476


The Original Sin
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  Message To: Carales   In reference to Message Id: 1669446


 Can a redtail boa and a python

not no but hell no



03/21/08  12:16am

 #1669596


Chezequerz
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  Message To: Carales   In reference to Message Id: 1669446


 Can a redtail boa and a python

i sometimes handle mine together but ive never housed them together



03/21/08  07:25am

 #1669627


Golden coqui ace
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  Message To: Chezequerz   In reference to Message Id: 1669596


 Can a redtail boa and a python

No, never can be together simply because of the differance in bacterias, one snakes bacteria could harm the other snake. Ball pythons and red tail boas cannot be together, no matter what the situation. I made the mistake of introducing my green iguana to my blue iguana, both became deathly ill and passed, so you see, it is vitaly important that you keep them seperate. I of course was pretty young when i did that, 14 to be exact and I was motified, I felt so bad because I myself could have prevent my favorite animal in the world from dying, lushous was my best friend and I put her in harms was and I still beat my self up about that, I want to get another iguana, but am scared to. I know now not to mix them, but it is still scarey. So do your self a favor and don’t even have them out together, keep your hands washed after handling one and going to handle another, if you put the both on your bed spread, try laying a clean blanket where thay layed. Do you see whta I am saying? You don’t want to loose one of your pet like that, it hurts.



03/21/08  09:08am

 #1670217


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  Message To: Golden coqui ace   In reference to Message Id: 1669627


 Can a redtail boa and a python

Another reason that hasn’t been mentioned is that both species of snake originate from very different geographic areas on the earth. They both have specific temperatures that need to be met. And finally, take a look at this. Under the "news and info" tab and at about mid page when you are there. Link



03/21/08  06:10pm

 #1670300


Golden coqui ace
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  Message To: SuperSaiyanSmits   In reference to Message Id: 1670217


 Can a redtail boa and a python

OMG, that was horrible



03/21/08  07:25pm

 #1678099


1boaman
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  Message To: Carales   In reference to Message Id: 1669441


 Can a redtail boa and a python

I dont suggest putting them together BUT the local zoo here has a 7 foot male red tail with a huge retic python and they’ve been together for years with no trouble.As for the breeding thing i dont think a boa would even try 2 mate a python and besides it would be impossible.Pythons produce eggs while boas give live birth



03/27/08  05:37pm

 #1678331


CONSTRIKTR
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  Message To: 1boaman   In reference to Message Id: 1678099


 Can a redtail boa and a python

SuperSaiyanSmits,
I never get tired of seeing that, for all of you out there who think "my boa will only eat rodents, that’s how it was raised!’’. Opportunistic feeders, not selective feeders.
Alex



03/27/08  07:52pm

 #1702009


Snakeman82
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  Message To: CONSTRIKTR   In reference to Message Id: 1678331


 Can a red tail boa and a python

first off its not a yes or no question i personally have two red tails and a berm and Ive housed them together before for weeks on end and every time i clean one of there cages and never had a problem i wouldn’t recommend putting a larger snake with a smaller snake or putting them together if one or both are aggressive, or if you just got a new snake and haven’t quarantined it. but other than that there should be no problem my Buddy works at a pet shop that sells mainly snakes and he gets people all the time bringing snakes in that aren’t the same species in the same cage and have been in the cage together since they were babies.



04/13/08  07:44pm

 #1702150


Addicted
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  Message To: Snakeman82   In reference to Message Id: 1702009


 Can a red tail boa and a python

Quote:

first off its not a yes or no question i personally have two red tails and a berm and Ive housed them together before for weeks on end and every time i clean one of there cages and never had a problem i wouldn’t recommend putting a larger snake with a smaller snake or putting them together if one or both are aggressive, or if you just got a new snake and haven’t quarantined it. but other than that there should be no problem my Buddy works at a pet shop that sells mainly snakes and he gets people all the time bringing snakes in that aren’t the same species in the same cage and have been in the cage together since they were babies.




You brought up an old thread just to show people you Don’t know what you are talking about?I feel bad for your animals if where you get your education is at a pet shop,Those are some of the worst places for bad husbandry practices.

#1 you are wrong
#2 you are wrong
And finally,#3 you are wrong.



04/13/08  09:12pm

 #1702917


Monty08
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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1702150


 Hell No

LOL OMG NO they cannot be together. Don’t you guys study on these snakes before you get them? Holy Sh!t...I don’t mean to sound stupid be really guys, The both have something they carry...now if you put them both together they will get sick and die. Why the hell would you want to anyways? Have no room to house 2 snakes? I know a friend told me to stay outta probs like this but telling you guys not to put 2 snakes in one cage is like ripping my eye balls right out with no pain killers.

Elvia.



04/14/08  02:48pm

 #1703019


SusanC
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  Message To: Monty08   In reference to Message Id: 1702917


 Hell No

I’m just sitting here shaking my head... rolling my eyes...hoping they don’t get stuck this way. Boas have been implicated as being the carriers of IBD...even if the host snake NEVER develops the disease!!! Why would anyone WANT to house 2 snakes together???? I don’t house 2 snakes together even if they are the same species... let alone... 2 different species. I always say that any question that is asked can NOT be a stupid question... but I’m beginning to think I was sadly sadly mistaken... ok so maybe the question wasn’t stupid... but the person who posted that they do it... and never had any problems.. poor snakes to be raised and kept by that person who obviously think they know it all. I wouldn’t trust people like that to raise fishing worms...let alone a snake.
And the post that said... well this zoo does it... well shame on the zoo for setting a bad example... haven’t you guys figured it out? Just b/c someone else does it... does NOT make it right!!!Read...read...ask questions... read some more... and just when you think you might know what you’re talking about... read it again.

You know what Elvia.. you’re right...you need pain killers to read this post

Susan



04/14/08  04:06pm

 #1703200


Addicted
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  Message To: SusanC   In reference to Message Id: 1703019


 Hell No

It’s not so much disease to worry about,2 different species have different husbandry requirments.Temp,humidity EXT.Bottom line is if you Can’t afford two cages Don’t get two snakes.



04/14/08  06:13pm

 #1703229


Florida boy
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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1703200


 Hell No

There is some funny stuff in this thread. Makes me laugh. PLease people know what you are talking about befor you post it.

I agree with Addicted 100%, it is not about bacteria(coughbscough)or IBD. It is all about husbandry. They require different environments, thus need different temps and humidityy. Not to mention even if you have two Colombian BCI that are the same size they should never be permanently housed togeather only for breeding purposes.



04/14/08  06:31pm

 #1703411


Monty08
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  Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1703229


 Hell No

Yeah, I guess this video means theres nothing wrong with the snake to you guys. I’m sure everyone is glad(Me also) That we can get a smile into you Florida Boy:)

http://www.you-tube.com/watch?v=QBHmHgfAlao

Elvia.



04/14/08  08:19pm

 #1703422


Addicted
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  Message To: Monty08   In reference to Message Id: 1703411


 Hell No

What is that supposed to mean?So a snake has Ibd,What’s your point?



04/14/08  08:25pm

 #1704359


Monty08
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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1703422


 Hell No

It can die if not treated mister:)

Elvia.



04/15/08  04:22pm

 #1704374


CPBLSOUP
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  Message To: Carales   In reference to Message Id: 1669441


 Can a redtail boa and a python

wow i bet carales will never ask a question on this forum again.....that was a shitty one i had to learn to there are lots of really good forums out there look around!!
sorry



04/15/08  04:36pm

 #1704477


Florida boy
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  Message To: CPBLSOUP   In reference to Message Id: 1704374


 Can a redtail boa and a python

Quote:

It can die if not treated mister:)



IBD is an incurable ailment. There is no treatment or cure. The only way to deal with an IBD infected animal is to get it away from any collection ASAP and have it humanely euthanized.

Also IBD cannot be ruled by A symptom or even all symptoms alone. Live liver biopsys need to be run to determine if there are infact inclusion bodies. That snake has just as good a chance of being infected with IBD as being cooked(too high temps) to the point of nuerological disorder.



04/15/08  05:47pm

 #1704479


Addicted
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  Message To: CPBLSOUP   In reference to Message Id: 1704374


 Can a redtail boa and a python

Quote:

It can die if not treated mister:)



There is no treatment.Euthanasia is the only option.



04/15/08  05:48pm

 #1705116


Chezequerz
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  Message To: Addicted   In reference to Message Id: 1704479


 Can a redtail boa and a python

habitat between python mularus bitavattae and boa constrictor constrictor are similar. Habitat wise u set it up for a red tail and the hardiness burms have will create successful living conditions for both.

But that said, housing snakes together can NEVER be done if you want healthy reptiles



04/16/08  02:43am

 #1705283


SusanC
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  Message To: Florida boy   In reference to Message Id: 1703229


 Hell No

LMAO... I agree with Addicted on the husbandry... that’s just a whole nother ball of wax... I don’t even hold one snake then go then another snake without sanitizing my hands... and you people wanna house your snakes together... lol SOMEBODY doesn’t know what H3LL they are doing... and I’m pretty sure it isn’t me lol



04/16/08  09:59am

 #1705547


Chezequerz
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  Message To: SusanC   In reference to Message Id: 1705283


 Hell No

u dont mean me do u? i was just pointing out that theoretically a burmese and a boa could live with the same set up if it was exactly the same but that he shouldnt house them together



04/16/08  03:05pm

 #1706504


SusanC
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  Message To: Chezequerz   In reference to Message Id: 1705547


 Hell No

NO Chez i didn’t mean you... and theoretically... you are right... if you set up an enclosure to suit a Boa... from everything I’ve read about a Burmese... they will adapt quickly and actually thrive... that is just how they are. They are known for their heartiness. I, in no way will ever tell someone they are wrong for their opinions.. I respect people and how they think..as i demand respect for my own opinion.. BUT people who would knowingly house 2 snakes of different species together... and broadcast it like it was safe... sanitary... and a perfectly fine thing to do... UUUGHHH! It just gets me every single time. And for a zoo to do it??????? These people are SUPPOSED to be educated! I mean it’s one thing for a novice... hobbyist to it and not knowing they are potentially harming their snakes... but for animal keepers such as ones that are employed by our zoos and supposed to be setting good husbandry examples to do it... it’s just another story altogether.
So, getting back to topic... I am a firm believer... if you can’t carefully clean and sanitize your hands and equipment in between snakes... or you can’t afford to have separate enclosures for every snake you have... then you CAN NOT afford to own these animals... if you can not make good choices for the animals you keep... then don’t keep them. Case closed.
Suz



04/17/08  10:18am

 #1706886


Chezequerz
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  Message To: SusanC   In reference to Message Id: 1706504


 Hell No

ahh cheers lol i couldnt tell either way. I just know that my red tail set up is very similar to my burmese set up so if theoretically burmese where introduced to brazil or red tails introduced to burma they could survive and breed easy in these countries. I agree ive just started a breeding enterprise and its majorly with large boids gonna be getting my first breeding snakes (a pair of albino het retics) in september so i know how to appreciate correct set ups and individual housing so i totally see your point on that one. Every time ive seen snakes housed together one would mysteriously die and be replaced (particularly at zoo’s)



04/17/08  05:04pm

 #1706983


Florida boy
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  Message To: Chezequerz   In reference to Message Id: 1706886


 Hell No

The reasons zoos do it is because space is limited. Also the public wants to see as many animals as possible. For a zoo, if that means housing multiple specise per habitat, that is what they are going to do. They need visitors to keep the facility running, so they are going to have as much stuff as possible to draw in the crowds. Surely doesn’t make it right or a good example for people to follow.
Unfortunatly many new hobbiest look at zoos as a good example and if they can do it why not them.



04/17/08  05:57pm


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