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 #2086244


Shane333
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ANYTHING SPECIAL OTHER THEN HYPO ???and does any one know why all of a sudden my big guy keeps opening his mouth and hissing is he gonna bite me or does he have a like a cold or does he not like the bedding he came from news papers before any one ?






10/20/09  02:18am

 #2086264


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Dam bro thats a really pretty snake...What kind of deal did you get for em? I cant wait till after school getting my 6ft male with a 5’x5’x3’ tank I’ll deff take pictures
10/20/09  06:43am

 #2086266


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hm about the hissing...Was he handled alot fromthe breeder you got him from? Whens hte last time he has eatin? Is his temps/humidity upall the way? Put a few hides in the tank...Make sure he isnt shedding..Could be becuase he cant tellwhat you are good and possibly just be intimadated when you grab him...
10/20/09  06:53am

 #2086269


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He may just be hissing at you. Does he do it when your near him or all the time? Does he position himself like he is about to strike or does he make the nose while wandering around his cage?

In the fifth picture down his nostrils look puffed out. Are they normally like that? If so he most likely has a respiratory infection.

If he’s been burrowing in the substrate a lot he may have some stuck in his nose.

It also looks very dry in his cage, do you have a way to monitor the humidity? What are his cage temps? How well insulated is that window? Could he possibly be getting a draft from it?

Also look inside his mouth (if you can) do you see any yellow, cheesy looking stuff in there?

I agree with the comment made about adding a hidebox. I would recommend putting one on the warm end of the cage and one on the cool end.

He looks like a nice hypo, I don’t see anything else that that says he anything other than a nicely colored orange hypo...

Amie



10/20/09  07:06am

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From Experience, Glass enclosures suck at keeping humidity. I have to work pretty hard and be vigilant to keep my temps and humidity up. (so glad I got the wood enclosure! should help when its done)

What I would advise has been said. Make sure your temps are high 80s on the warm side, low 80s on the cool side, perhaps a larger water dish under the heat lamp or partially on top of the UTH, depending on which you use, to create more Humidity if its under 50%.

Those look like aspen chips, but they can be dusty...usually they are fine, but if he is commin from newspaper, it may take him some time to adjust to wood. And they do tend to dry out the tank.

They are pretty snakes. When in doubt, take em to a reptile vet. My snakes have been doing that as well recently, because I have not been handling them as much ( only once a week at most since Im also taking care of baby corns ugh!). They don’t do it in their enclosures at all, so I know its not an RI.

Looks like a good size enclosure, and glad to meet another attic dweller!



10/20/09  09:50am

 #2086344


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HAHA where to start with all these comments haha i try to soak his tank ad much as possible to keep the humidity up i keep the attic at aproximate 80 its hard an yes its a brand new window but a very old draft house and we are having some heat problem with the second floor and attic as soon as the heats fixed it will be easier which should be today or tomorrow i havent notice any slime in his mouth YET but i have only had him since saturday as far as just hissing at me idk he hised once when i turned the light on and a few times on the ride home in the bag on saturday and he does once in a while when roaming around ... the tank he is in was my old snakes take she was a 7 foot HOGG ISLAND and when i took her up to the show to trade people were telling me she had a respitory proble cuz she had a slimy mouth and hissed alot but she onyl had one nostal also and yes his nose is puffed up very much its permentantly liek that the guy said he didnt knwo wut happend i am deff going to take him to a vet to be on safe side .. are repitory infections contagious ??? and to answer te other guys question i got both of the two hypos for a trade i traded my hogg island for both of them i think i answered all the questions need to get a humidifier i know that and a hide which im going to build a hide today and shop around fora humidified but another question i have is would it be better to swich to news paper ?



10/20/09  11:31am

 #2086413


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A good sign of a respiratory infection is when you hold them you’ll notice them opening the mouth and slobber will come from it. If in fact your boa has a resperatory infection, it measn that your temps are not high enough, to get rid of it you will need to raise the temps as high as possible, unlike us snakes don’t get a fever to fight infection so we need to give them a fever by cranking up the heat. Reperitory infections are not contagious, but I really hope you cleaned you cage really good before putting the new snake in.

There are a great many options as far as bedding goes, I prefer aspen because it’s cheaper and easier to clean up then any of the other beddings. I would not recommend using newspaper, redtails like to burrow up underneath their bedding, they can’t do that with the newspaper, news paper doesn’t really help to much with keeping your temps up either. Other people use coconut bedding and cypress bedding. Really it’s up to you.

In my opinion your cage is just a little to open and your lamp shouldn’t be on the outside but inside, closer to where the snake can bask, I combine UVB lighting with and undertank heating pad to keep the temps level. Also, invest in a spray bottle and mist your tank once a day, doesn’t matter if it’s in the morning or night. Your boa does infact need a hide, you can either buy one or make one.

Other then that you need to keep you temps and humidity up, also my boa’s hiss when their getting ready to shed or are hungry, which doesn’t happen to me often, you may want to try feeding him and soaking him.



10/20/09  03:11pm

 #2086457


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I would definitely have a vet check him out just to be on the safe side. RIs don’t necessarily have the slimy mucus, especially in the earlier stages.

A few years ago a I received a freshly imported Nic that had a nose puffed up much like then one in your picture. It was not wet, but he did make a wheezing type noise when he was breathing. I thought he had sustained rostral damage and he appeared to have only one nostril. I treated him for the RI and cleaned what turned out to be caked mucus off of his nose and everything was fine a few weeks later.

Amie
10/20/09  04:39pm

 #2086470


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Ok I get ya but we are talken about my 5 year old 6 foot snake lol not the little one and on his take the heat lamps are on the in side with also a uv buld and I raied the temps today and I do mist his tank often now but I made and appointment for the vet on Monday a 345 lol so I’m gonna find everything out for sure but yeaa so far I’m already doing everything that every one is sayong thanks to all you guys hopefully things will clear up and all with him I think you hit the nail right on the head with the whole mucis puffy nose thing. Did the puffy ness go down ever ? N ill try feeding him tomorrow. If anyone is interested I would like to see some pics of every ones snakes and cages for some hide ideas for him since he’s so big. And and I will try soaking him in the tub do I soak in warm or cold water ?



10/20/09  04:58pm

 #2086482


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Ok, when she said as high as possible on the temps...not above 90*, or you will have cooked snake.

Try to cover half that screen lid with either a piece of plexi, aluminum foil, piece of plastic signage...something to prevent the humidity from escaping. Then have the water dish just partway under that lamp so it evaporates and raises your humidity.

Then youll want to create that hide. It can be a NEW cat litter box turned upside down with a hole slightly larger than the largest part of his body. or a half log or whatever...even fake plants hung down tent like work. Something where the snake can hide and feel less vulnerable.

Vet is a good idea. He is a beautiful snake. RIs are best caught early. They have a better prognosis.
Good luck! He is lucky you got him sounds like! Keep reading here and other sites. I like Vosjoli’s complete Boa handbook. Its a good read for novices and intermediate boa owners.



10/20/09  05:11pm

 #2086545


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   Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 2086482


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For my 8 ft female I use a large rock held up by two stacks of flat rocks that I hot glued together, boo really doesn’t spend much time in her hide but when she does that suits her just well. I don’t have any pics of their hides but here are my babies.......


This is boo, she is 8 ft long, I just described her hide area to you, she has a wooden cage now that stands 6 ft t and is 4 ft wide and 3 ft deep.


This in ginger, she uses the biggest half log made, she measures in at 4’5’’


This is romeo, he also use’s the largest half log made, he measures in at 3’11’, he has a hypo gene.... His mother was hypo.

Both smaller boas have a 40 long aquarium and are moving up here pretty soon.
10/20/09  06:49pm

 #2086653


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Nice looking hypo. I just got a baby hypo jungle ph albino. As for the RI. I had a guianan with one a few years back and it did make a whistling noise and opened its mouth alot. It may just be hissing tho. Do you hold it alot?
10/20/09  09:55pm

 #2086778


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Well i just got him sat not even a week ago but yes i have been trying to hold him as much as possible and today i just sat for a god half hour petting him and following him around his cage because idk y but when he comes out he goes balistic swinging all around n he like wackes his head on things be is a very clumsy snake so i try to keep him grounded but i do hold him in open areas and fairy he doest have a screen top he is in the jewlery boat its like plexy and wood all around
10/21/09  04:33am

 #2086780


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and very gorgeous snakes liza



10/21/09  04:35am

 #2086823


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Thanks :) My ginger does the same thing as far as swinging goes getting her out of the cage, it’s more then likely because they don’t want to be picked up that way. But what I do is I reach in and grab under her head first and then under her girthy area. I think that she freaks out because she doesn’t like just being picked up by her girth and pulled out, if you think about it that is where a predator would grab and you don’t want them to think you a predator because that’ll get you bit and with a 6 ft boa that won’t be a very pretty scene.



10/21/09  08:57am

 #2086917


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Wow that is so tru I never thought of it that way but the only prob is I just got him sat n I’m still alitle nervous going near his head still. Especially wit that mouth opening stuff and th hising but I’m kinda thinking that’s just the skin on his nose ima get the vet to check it out on Monday but he swings around even when om holding him like he just constantly moves around me so fast. I just want him to be a calm snake like the ones at like little kids places that just sit there n get put all day lol



10/21/09  01:03pm

 #2086922


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Well sometimes you get those and sometimes you get hyper snakes. My male is really mello, I can take him to the daycare and let the kids pass him around all day and never have to worry about anything, but with both of my females, the don’t sit still they like to climb, they like to crawl along the floor, sometimes you just have to let them explore. Have you had them probed to make sure that they are the sex that the guy told you they were, if not I would get that checked out, you may have a female.

As far as the being nervous about touching his head, I would recomend you not feel that way when trying to handle him. He can sense you tention and that can cause problems. Get him vet checked, while your at the vet ask to have him probed to make sure it’s a male, feed him and soak him really good in the bath tub with luke warm water. If you snake has a respiratory infection your vet is going to advise you as I have, My male had a RI about a year ago, I cranked the heat up and kept him really warm and the RI went away in a week.

You do need to think about possibly upgrading from the jewlry case to a wooden one. Wood hold heat and humidity better and your snake doesn’t feel so out in the open where all the predators are which could be another reason he is hissing, he is scared because he is out in the open and can’t escape to a safer place. You don’t have to do what I’m recommending, I’m just making a few suggestions to possibly make your guy happier. A happy snake is a healthy one.
10/21/09  01:15pm

 #2087024


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I got ya as far as the heat I think ur right but he came from a open cage also so I figured he be use to it but idk I’m gonna gice it some time and see if ,aybe he just is settleing in and all I have his heat up to about 88 now and am spraying a lot and I’m gonna get a hide today hopefully and see if he gets chilled and I still gotta see what the vet says and I’m gonna give him a bath but all my snakes always wig out when I put them in the tub lol do I just keep putting him in or what ?



10/21/09  04:04pm

 #2087035


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First, make sure your water is just right, not to cold but not to warm, my snakes all usually just chill even ginger. I would just keep putting him back in, he’ll give up once he realizes there is no way out, also make sure you fill the tub up far enough to actually give him a good soaking.



10/21/09  04:20pm

 #2087048


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Best rule of thumb, stick your wrist ( Not hand, underside of your arm at the wrist). It should feel neither warm, nor cold, just like with baby milk. If it feels warm, its above 98.6, and thus too hot for your snake.



10/21/09  04:28pm

 #2087233


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Ok ill give it a try but all of them useually have a pannic attact and try n fly out of it up the walls and out fosset and all they go. Nuts I haven’t tried the new guys yet but we will see
10/21/09  10:12pm

 #2087241


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I’ve only ever had that happen when the water was either to cold or warm. Then again, your snakes may just not like the water, very unusual but I would guess it was possible.



10/21/09  10:23pm

 #2087257


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So I guess room temp is best or a little warm well cage temp



10/21/09  10:47pm

 #2087270


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Depends on what your room temp is, you just want to water to be luke warm, think of it like your getting ready to put a baby in the tub.
10/21/09  11:01pm

 #2087420


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AWWW look he loved it plus i put a huge water bowl in his tank for him i gotta get another one thats even bigger n im building a hide today well my brother is haha
10/22/09  09:56am

 #2087457


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Thats great, glad to hear that. I built my own hide for boo out of a large flat rock, 16 smaller flat rocks and a hot glue gun lol. You can also buil a box, it’s up to you there are tons of ways to build a hut.
10/22/09  12:03pm

 #2087557


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yea like the rock idea alot i jsut dont think i would be able to get enough rocks and it would be heavy as hell hes a big boy to
10/22/09  04:59pm

 #2087608


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Boo is 8 ft long lol. You’d be surprised what they can squeeze under. I just soaked boo and she pooped all in the tub, I guess it felt so good she has to let loose.
10/22/09  07:34pm

 #2087752


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you can hot glue a bunch of fake plants to the outside of a brand new, never ever used catbox. ( the plants to hide the ugly hide) and cut out a notch in one side so they can get in and out.

You can also drill through hardwood sticks, one inch from either end all the way through, then string them on a wire to make a sort of log
Or hot glue plants to a series of interwoven sticks, and lean it on one wall of the tank. You can bend it and shape it however works.
10/23/09  01:05am

 #2087777


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haha i went up into the room where i keep him to show my friend the new guy and i was disapointed he still wasnt in his new water bowl so i pickd his head up n put it over it and he licked ht water then dove right in haha and there he sat proly for over 3 or 4 hours and this as after the 2 hours i had him in the tub prior haha this guy loves water ... and those were some pretty good ideas my brother is very creative so ima see what he come up wit it was a bad day for him thought his car broke down wiht him and m mo and i had to follow them home and we got pulled over and he was yelling at the cop so i didnt think today was a good day to bug him about the new hide again but i am picking him up tomorrow to take him to trim some horses feet since he has no car now so i wil remind him nice and early haha
10/23/09  02:33am
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