Tell them to go outside and use their temp gun to check the surface temps. In the sahde of course those temps will be cooler, but in the sun you’ll find things are heated up. From the ground to rocks to tree branches.

Snakes may not seek out as high of temps as a monitor they do indeed utilize temps. If they ddin’t they would not be able to digest large meals.

I have dealt with many snake people and the belief of not giving them temp choices. They want to dial in 80’s and stick with it. That is why it takes them 2-3 years to grow them to maturity. Also the fact they feed once a week etc. if they fed daily they would realize the temps are not working. They would indeed then have to give more temperature choices. In turn the snakes would grow much faster.

try not to get personal or do shots to anyone. the problem with my advice is it goes against most care sheets(if not all) and most breeder set ups(if not all) how ever there are plenty of monitor keepers i know who keep boids and pythons in the same matter i do. they changed their minds to be more natural and more zoo habbitat/enclosre than breeder cage. take a look at these monitor cages and imagine how your snakes would be in them much like i did

I have dealt with many snake people and the belief of not giving them temp choices. They want to dial in 80’s and stick with it. That is why it takes them 2-3 years to grow them to maturity. Also the fact they feed once a week etc. if they fed daily they would realize the temps are not working. They would indeed then have to give more temperature choices. In turn the snakes would grow much faster.

monkyboy you mean to tell me you can fry an egg on the street and have never seen a snake bask on the street. my buddy went to arizona and said they were all over the streets. the proof is in the pudding. nature has no problem doing it right.

Also You defend Your temperatures by saying well let Me take My temp gun out and measure some surface temperatures I find outside. I can fry an egg on a sewer drain cover here in New Orleans in the summertime, that does not mean that this is a surface that I’d likely find a Boa Constrictor basking upon, or rather frying on..

monkyboy please give me some people you respect in raising snakes and i will ask them about their enclosures and obesity.

i already spoke to the one you mentioned jeff ronne. i was not happy to speak with him.

What Boa Constrictor in the wild is given the opportunity to feed daily, or once a week for that matter?

What Boa Constrictor in the wild is exposed to a surface in excess of 700 degrees, as is Your exposed CHE inside of Your enclosure?

Why would You want to grow a Boa Constrictor quicker than it would grow in nature, especially when it has been proven to drastically shorten the lifespan of the snake when overfed?

The behavior of Boa changes from foraging as juveniles to ambush predators as adults. Supplying caging with oversized dimensions serves the keeper (or their expectations) more than it does a Boa as they tend to use a smaller percentage of their environment as they age

Experienced observers of mature boa, even breeders, have noted an actual preference by the animals to feed seasonally.. Yet they are healthy and give good litters. In many cases even better results than if they are fed all year long according to some schedule.

so again who else have you talked to and what kind of cages were they in? you don’t want to get in a cage show off because your cages and the people you support are breeders and want many snakes in minimum enclosures.