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Boa’s in florida
OK understand im bashing people in Florida AT ALL please understand that and im not saying i hate boa’s I LOVE BOA’S i love every snake out there. but i do want to open a discussion about your thoughts about this subject but yeah let me know what you think. the photo is there cause ppl dont come if you don put a pic on there So in Florida because of irresponsible owners in Florida, as we speak is getting taken over by boa’s they are thinking of classifying them as injurious wildlife species and not a ban but do u think that there should b a ban so that people don’t get them that have no idea what there getting into I mean were not talking your regular ball pythons these things can eat your cats and dogs and there here but don’t get me wrong I love them, there beautiful snakes but they don’t belong here in the wild as pet why not but people get these snakes thinking there getting snake that stays under 5 feet then they find out they get to 8-10 feet long and let them go don’t think any thing about it but they don’t realize these things can survive in these very climates and reproduce at that. Now there are prime examples of these non native species taken over other countries such as the Cane Toads in Australia heres a web page on it http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur... (link also at the bottom) now yes the Government did not put them out there but the Government is allowing boas over here and putting them in irresponsible owners hands now if we put a ban on them I would not like it any way cause I would like to have one BUT! there are lots of people that do not need them. There’s the statement that someone said “make Florida pay not the whole country” ok good point but I don’t liter but I’m having to pay for Global Warming, but another way to look at it is as a country we voted for the president that past the law to allow boa’s as pets in to the USA now saying that they have said that with Global Warming the boa’s can make it as far as VA now that’s through NC and I live in NC so I would have to pay for Florida’s actions so no matter what the whole country will get dragged into this. this is a statement a guy made on yahoo answers to this very question, by K: “why would you ban something so beautiful? see in reality no animal has ever willing walked (or slithered) up and hurt a person, we are in their space before they are in ours. They react the same way we do if someone encroaches our living "bubble". if we provoke them then sure an animal will react in a violent manner however, if they are let alone and not provoked then they have no reason to cause a problem. it is the people who do not understand them that end up causing the most harm” And I answered by saying “no animals were here before us, God created man before beast im not saying there not beautiful AT ALL I love ever snake shape color but God gave us command over animals and we have not done a great job on it ok but are native animals like white tail deer, blue birds, black rat snakes, and anoles ect. now if we allow something in our country that can take over our native species and we have no more of them, what r u going to do then? the next generations to come theres prime examples out there and ill find some for yall But there’s something positive from “gallianomom2001” “think it’s a good idea to possibly have regulations concerning the ownership of large boids and pythonae. The problem is, the USFWS are not specifying which boas and pythons. They make a blanket statement on all of them. As an owner and breeder of boas and pythons that are not large, I would be caught up in this as well. Understand also, that this is merely an inquiry to find out how much, if any, impact that boas and pythons have on the environment. Frankly, there’s been a much higher commercial loss due to an introduced species of mussel there and from iguanas than has been seen by large pythons and boas. There are many responsible owners of large pythons and boas out there, just as there are many irresponsible ones. There are also irresponsible owners of smaller snakes that get turned out also. It’s a serious problem even if that animal is indigenous. We are seeing a result of just this very thing in the frogs worldwide. Whole species are being wiped out due to a fungus introduced from captive frogs that were either accidently or purposely released into wild populations. The chances of a child being eaten by large snakes is in all probability quite low. They’d have a better chance of being eaten by an alligator. I truly think they have little impact upon the environment. They don’t eat other snakes, and young snakes are still the prey of birds, mammals and alligators. The reptile business is a multi-billion dollar industry-between retail and private sales of snakes, to the supplies that are purchased to keep them. To enact a ban that would in all aspects halt this industry would be detrimental to the economy...something I don’t think would be done” Url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur... [UrlName]Cane toads control[/UrlName][/Url] |
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TBShot View Profile |
Message To: TBShot In reference to Message Id: 1724996 Boa’s in florida
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| 05/04/08 04:18pm |
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CClark View Profile |
Message To: TBShot In reference to Message Id: 1725000 Boa’s in florida
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| 05/05/08 06:51am |
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Moggie View Profile |
Message To: CClark In reference to Message Id: 1725641 Boa’s in florida
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| 05/21/08 02:36am |
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Turtle addict View Profile |
Message To: Moggie In reference to Message Id: 1742001 Boa’s in florida
While this means I am in trouble with permit fees...8 snakes all over 4 feet, 7 red ear sliders, and 2 iguanas means my permit fees will be insane. But if it keeps impulse buyers or people willing to dump them in the wild from getting them DO IT!!! I also think they should be fair and permit any dog over 10 pounds....those cause more damage to humans with bites then anything else. |
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| 05/21/08 07:51am |
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NICKNAME View Profile |
Message To: Turtle addict In reference to Message Id: 1742098 Boa’s in florida
i totaly see the reason behind registering pythons and boas. we have personally seen and caught burms up to 15 feet in the glades area there are 1000`s of them there now . of course they have an impact lets say there are 1000 pythons in the glades . lets say they eat an average o once very 10 days . thats is roughly 1000 mammals or other local reptiles eaten every 10 days . thats around 3600 possible local mammals , and/or reptiles eaten every year . that also leaves alot less for the local animals to eat. also who knows where the reptiles ( pythons iguanas ) came from . you said they are an almost billion dollar a year business. so it`s possible that snake or lizard started out in your state , and was sold by a careless business man who didn`t check out who they were selling to.they sold it to a person who really wasn`t quailified to have it . so if you can sell it in your state , to someone else in another state , and you can profit from it . then yes , we all should be held responsible if then shouldn`t you be responsible to who you sell it to if you can breed and sell them , maybe you should register them and document where they are sold to. it gets complicated it`s too hard to point a finger isn`t it? why not all do our part ? . we diinfetly on a side note . i really don`t beleive we were here first . i think we evolved . i really don`t beleive god put us here as guardians over all animals , and we are not the all mighty. we are the dominant ( and most reckless species) but this could get into a religious arguement ( even my wife doesn`t agree with me on this one) |
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| 05/25/08 11:54am |
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Snakecharmer713 View Profile |
Message To: NICKNAME In reference to Message Id: 1745862 Boa’s in florida
If we as pet owners don’t stop some of the laws being passed we may loose our pets {or in my case my kids} It seems that the gov. wants to pass a nation wide law on restricting most if not all reptiles that are imported into the US. It a scary thing to know that maybe in 10 yrs my animals will be put down due to a law that uniformed politicians pass. I think in 2001 there was a petition going around to save some sand boas in a state that said they were "dangerous animals"...once again uniformed people made a choice pass a law that banned a snake that at max only gets 3ft! How were they a danger to anything but a mouse? The bottom line is if we as responsibe owners spread the word that we won’t stand for such laws they may not pass them. As for FL...why not ask breeders to go into these places and get the snakes? They would glady take them or re-home them...and those people know how to handle a larger breed of snake. Pay them a finders fee, snake is caught unharmed and FL wildlife is safe. Plus the breeders have the option of getting a new snake. |
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| 05/28/08 03:40am |
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Rebelyell83 View Profile |
Message To: Snakecharmer713 In reference to Message Id: 1748878 Boa’s in florida
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| 06/10/08 05:05pm |
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Repta dude View Profile |
Message To: Rebelyell83 In reference to Message Id: 1757100 Boa’s in florida
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| 06/16/08 11:07am |
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Rebelyell83 View Profile |
Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1762601 Boa’s in florida
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| 06/16/08 09:12pm |
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KvH View Profile |
Message To: Rebelyell83 In reference to Message Id: 1763263 Boa’s in florida
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