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 #1863957


JessoTesto
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 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

I almost stepped on this little guy today so decided to take him/her home. He is about 12", skinny as pencil, zero hissing, and a little on the defensive side(he calmed down after I caught him). My family insists that it is a bull snake but I have no idea and I’m curious.



09/20/08  03:50am

 #1864407


AnonymousReps
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   Message To: JessoTesto   In reference to Message Id: 1863957


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

Ya, I don’t think its a Bull either ,but better "Full Body" picks would be nice so i can see its tail patterning to.
09/20/08  08:02pm

 #1864547


JessoTesto
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   Message To: AnonymousReps   In reference to Message Id: 1864407


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

His temperament is excellent. He did well when I handled him.



09/20/08  10:27pm

 #1864638


AnonymousReps
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   Message To: JessoTesto   In reference to Message Id: 1864547


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

I’d like to know where you are located to narrow it down..but it almost looks like ~Arizona elegans~ "Glossy Snake"
09/20/08  11:50pm

 #1864641


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   Message To: AnonymousReps   In reference to Message Id: 1864638


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

or ~Elaphe vulpina~ "Fox Snake"
09/20/08  11:53pm

 #1864661


JessoTesto
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   Message To: AnonymousReps   In reference to Message Id: 1864641


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

Clovis, New Mexico. Its about 15 miles from the Texas border.



09/21/08  12:23am

 #1864835


AnonymousReps
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   Message To: JessoTesto   In reference to Message Id: 1864661


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

Yea, I’mma stick with Glossy snake
09/21/08  11:02am

 #1864924


Gottee guy
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   Message To: AnonymousReps   In reference to Message Id: 1864835


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

It is a glossy snake for sure.
they look similar to the banded or blotched water snakes,but don’t get them mixed up with your glossy snake (the banded water snake is out of your range anyways).
it is NOT a fox snake. they look very different.
09/21/08  01:20pm

 #1864990


JessoTesto
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1864924


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

Awesome, thanks a lot. Now I’m debating on keeping it or giving it a good meal and letting it go.



09/21/08  03:08pm

 #1866960


Amphibiandude
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   Message To: JessoTesto   In reference to Message Id: 1864990


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

looks like a glossy but it also kinda looks like an emory rat snake ’elaphe emory emory" but i dont know if it lives in nm i catch them alot but i live i texas
09/23/08  09:17pm

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   Message To: AnonymousReps   In reference to Message Id: 1864641


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

No fox snakes in Arizona! I live in Chicago and have found MANY fox snakes .
10/29/08  10:08am

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Russell55
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   Message To: Glug33   In reference to Message Id: 1889705


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

I would have agreed with amphibiandude. It looks a lot like a Rat Snake. But when you said it was very easy to handle, I had my doubts. Rat Snakes tend to be very aggressive and bite with out hesitation.



07/06/09  12:39pm

 #2035125


Concolor1
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   Message To: Russell55   In reference to Message Id: 2034879


 I’m Gonna Go With The Great Plains Rat Snake . . .

The pattern on the head sways me, with the "bar" going through the eye, plus these shots show that glossy snakes have apparently fewer blotches

http://phoenix.about.com/od/arizonapicturesandphotos/ig/Arizona-Snakes/Arizona-Snakes-27.htm

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http://i.livescience.com/images/ig39_Glossy_snake_02.jpg

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Here is E. emoryi by contrast . . .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/centavo/2821762599/

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http://ndis.nrel.colostate.edu/herpatlas/coherpatlas/images/Species/Snakes/greatplainsratsnake.jpg

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07/06/09  07:04pm

 #2035696


Reptaking
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   Message To: JessoTesto   In reference to Message Id: 1863957


 I think it is a bull but I’m unsure. Anyone?

its a fox snake a type of gopher snake i breed them
07/07/09  05:19pm


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