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 Found Treasure While Hiking!


This is Gomez, my newest family member. I found him while hiking near my home in the Sierra Nevada foothills yesterday. He is an 08 Pacific gopher snake, and a very nice little guy; no biting or hissing, and ate two live fuzzies right away after I got him home, gave him the usual Reptile Relief bath, and checked him over for any problems. He was in danger of being caught by a cat when I chanced upon the site, a big sheet of plywood with the cat on top very interested on something underneath.
Usually I don’t take wild animals unless they need rehabilitation, but this little snake was just too nice to pass up!
The stuff on him is moss from his hide.



04/08/09  04:01pm

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 Found Treasure While Hiking!

Very nice specimen .... the other day a dad and the kids came to the pet store with an identical gopher..... about 4-5 months old I bet. They had found it in their driveway .... and needed to find it a good home. The pet store could not take it (laws about native species) and as we all admired the snake, I suggested that the dad and kids go release it in the nearby foothill area. They agreed and off the boys went ....

I really wanted it ...very sweet disposition and no fear at all....

Cp



04/09/09  03:26am

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 Found Treasure While Hiking!


Gomez ate 6 pinks today. This is his second meal in captivity. I think he likes being a prisoner of love! LOL! The deal with the cup is we are working up to hand feeding. Gomez is already quite relaxed about being handled; maybe next feeding we can dispense with the cup. I hand feed all my gopher snakes.
I had a huge batch of pinks born the last couple of days and have been feeding them off today to all my young snakes, as I have plenty already stored in the freezer.



04/11/09  09:13pm

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 Nice Pics; Nice Snake . . .

I had a similar experience out with my kids last spring; my daughter, who’s usually fearless, suddenly ran back down the path toward me and shrieked "Bull Snake!" I was incredulous since this was in a gully almost in the middle of the state’s third or fourth largest city, but I focused my middle-aged eyes on the the strange pattern where she pointed, and it morphed into a snake (Yes, I know it’s a Great Basin gopher, but she knew it as a bull snake because at the time I had one Texas bull among my collection of corns and milk snakes).

Like you, I’m generally adverse to removing wild snakes from their environment, but knowing most of the locals’ views towards serpents, I figured there was better than an even chance some yayhoo would do the poor guy in at some point (we were less than fifty yards from a housing subdivision when we found him), and as my breeding ideas with snakes were leaning towards pituophis sp. (I’ve raised a clutch of corns and also have some milk snakes with possibilities), I took the little guy home. At the time he was about 18-20 inches, slightly bigger than a ten month old corn I’d saved from an ’07 hatching . . .

Here’s a current picture, having just removing him from my hibernation closet (more on that one follows):



And another (the quality isn’t so good since I reduced the file size so much; I’m still learning Photoshop and this nifty new camera, which does take excellent shots; blame the photographer):



When I captured "him" (I’m not certain, on that one, of course), this snake, which is perhaps an inch in diameter at its widest point) was distended to almost tennis ball size from the prey it had obviously just ingested (obviously either a gopher, a half grown rat, or some sort of fledgling).

Remember that when someone goes into histrionics the next time you dispose of a full grown breeder mouse to a slightly smallish snake because your big ’un just went into shed . . . Just offer your snake a nice warm spot with a hide (which is what I did, and it promptly went into shed right afterwards); don’t stress it, and don’t make a habit of feeding oversize prey or suggesting that I said it was okay; my only practice is to generally avoid excitable types since they drain one’s energy . . .

This snake took f/t mice as soon as it finished shedding, but abruptly went off its feed around the end of August . . . I understand pits have a tendency to hunger strikes (I’m still learning, folks), so I haven’t panicked although I did try the "pinkies in chicken broth" trick as one option . . . I put it into the hibernation closet (with Momma and Poppa Corn) in the middle of December with the hope of jump-starting its metabolism and only removed him a few days ago, and I’m allowing a chance to warm up before I try offering something to eat . . .

That’s where things stand right now . . . The snake is active, doesn’t appear to have lost much weight, and I’m optimistic . . . At the same time, there are obvious challenges with W/C snakes, and any and all dialogue has the potential to be valuable (BTW, what’s "Reptile Relief Bath," and can one get it at Petco or a pet shop that has a good herp selection?).

Uh oh, Momma Corn just popped up and is prowling around her cage; I’ve fed her well in anticipation of putting her in with Poppa this week, so it looks like I’ll be posting over on the corn snake section shortly . . .



04/13/09  03:23am

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  Message To: Concolor1   In reference to Message Id: 1985028


 Nice Pics; Nice Snake . . .

About Reptile Relief:
Link
Find out what is in common products:
Link

I use this for every new reptile I bring home, whether or not I can detect any external parasites. It is a widely distributed product available from many stores; pet stores, feed stores, ect. You can also get this in gallon bottles, or just get the dog and cat flea bottle, which is the same ingredients repackaged for dogs and cats; same ingredients and proportions, but cheaper than buying the reptile bottle.
Gomez is now coiled up over the UTH in his tub happily digesting his big meal. He is about 19 to 20 inches long.
I don’t have anyone around who will get into a dither over my feeding of live mice to my snakes. My partner thinks it is rather disgusting, but then I don’t feed while anyone is present to make annoying comments! When I am feeding the live pinks and fuzzies to the snakes, the mice squeek as they are being swallowed. Only a snake enthusiast would find that tolerable! LOL!



04/13/09  10:02am

 #1985106


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  Message To: Greatballzofire   In reference to Message Id: 1985102


 Nice Pics; Nice Snake . . .

I forgot to mention, you have a very nice little pituophis!


One of my other Pacific gophers, Gonzo, eating yesterday. Gonzo is captive bred from 08. I have a pair of 08 Pacifics as well, but they are currently in blue and not eating now. Gomez the wild one is about the same size as them, maybe a tad smaller. Gonzo is almost two feet. In the wild there is no human being coming around weekly with cups full of baby mice!



04/13/09  10:10am

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  Message To: Greatballzofire   In reference to Message Id: 1985106


 Well, Here’s My Really Little Pituophis . . .

I picked up this little girl at a show here last September; she was a hatchling GB at the time . . . Price was 30 dollars . . .



Here’s another of her . . .



A contrast between this C/B little snake and the W/C one above offers some illumination . . . Prices on snakes at shows are incredibly reasonable, on par with the gas one might spend on a trip out to the boonies so while I’m all in favor of the health and spiritual benefits of trips afield, I’m of the conviction that to do so with the idea of saving money by collecting a specimen or two only offers a false sense of economy. One generally needs a good reason to remove a wild herp from the field, and I note both wild snakes described here were probably threatened because of their proximity to humanity (mine was found less than a five minute drive from my apartment).

Add possible feeding and parasite problems to the mix, and the choice in favor of C/B animals is generally pretty clear . . .

And now about my own "feeding problem":

HOORAY!! THE HUNGER STRIKE IS OVER!!

My medium-size deserticola pictured a couple of posts above just took down a half-grown live mouse nicely about an hour ago (well, actually, it was rather brutal). That is its first meal since last August . . . I’ll monitor it closely for the next few days and probably offer it something bigger in a week or ten days . . .

My thanks to JackAsp for the suggestion that a reasonable hibernation period would be an effective way to jump start a snake’s appetite . . . It was a learning experience for me to realize how long a snake in good health could go without eating, and I note on another thread in the corn snake section someone was needlessly worried that a hatchling corn hadn’t eaten a week after being purchased . . .

Anyway, onward, and in the "snakes are different" department, I note that neither of my Great Basin Gophers seems to have as huge of an appetite at this point as "greatballzofire’s" snakes . . . The ’08 hatching easily ate a fuzzy mouse shortly after I took the pictures above (yeah, I feed ’em live, too, although my daughter--who’s with me most weekends--often objects), but a second helping was ignored . . .

This may be a seasonal "thingie" since it’s still nearly winter here (and I hear it may well snow again tomorrow). Snakes in colder climes and higher altitudes may well have lower metabolisms than those in warmer climates . . . My big Texas Bull generally packs away two or more adult mice (or a newly weaned rat) at a feeding, and she’s easily twice as large as the w/c gopher even though they were much closer in size last summer...



04/14/09  02:10am

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  Message To: Concolor1   In reference to Message Id: 1985579


 Well, Here’s My Really Little Pituophis . . .

That is a pretty little gopher! She is so little in the photo, although they do grow fast!


Lorenzo.


Zumbida.
My pair of 08 Pacifics I got in March from a breeder. These photos were taken the day they arrived. Once they shed and start eating I’ll post some better photos.
Where I live cats are the worst threat to native reptiles. I am constantly rescuing fence lizards, alligator lizards, skinks, ringneck snakes...if it has scales I have most likely saved it from the cats. I have a cat sanctuary where my several cats (all rescues themselves) are fenced in on two acres. This does not prevent the little wild critters from wandering into the cat habitat, but I am able to save most of them. Outside the cat sanctuary are many feral cats, and those are a worse problem. People abandon their cats out in the country (my home) and create this unbalanced ecology.
The next time I go to the Sacramento Reptile show this September, if I see any great deals like the pair of Arizona Mountain king hatchlings I got for 30 dollars each, temptation will be just too great! LOL!



04/14/09  11:24am


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