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 #2080221


MacGoddess
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 Baby Pacific Gopher Snake...I think

This is my first reptile, and finding this forum with all the excellent information helped me to do the right things for this little guy...



So, to all the folks who post in this forum, thank you!

I am in northern California and we found this baby in the cold warehouse at the winery where I work. First one co-worker took her home...and brought her back the next day. Then second co-worker took her home...and brought her back the next day. I decided it was fate then, and I took her home myself. She is about a foot long and is in a 10 Gal. tank with a heating pad under half of it, with a hide box on both sides.



She is very sweet and shy and has never hissed at me or tried to strike. Thanks to all of the good advice here, I feed her in a separate container, and she had no problem taking to eating frozen (but thawed) pinkies. Here she is after eating two pinkies, and it seemed like she was looking for more!



Here is a video of her eating the second pinkie.









I was hoping that because she was so young, she would adapt nicely to being in captivity, and it seems she has most of the time. But on occasion, she will ’stand up’ on her rock with as much of her body standing straight up as she can, while looking up, like she is looking for a way out. I wish I had taken a picture of this, but the other night I noticed that she had her tail wrapped high around one of the branches with the rest of her body straight up and with her head tipped back so that the under side of her head was flat against the top of the tank. Looked to me like she was working on attempting to push the lid off. Smart baby! It was amazing and funny and like I said, I wish I had taken a picture. But, more importantly, does this indicate that she is unhappy in captivity? Or is it just her ’escape artist’ nature? I take her out for about an hour most days, if she is awake and not hiding, and we do that ’treadmill’ thing, but never after she has eaten, of course.

Any advice or comments would be welcome. I haven’t named her yet--I don’t know if she is a male or female--I just call her Baby Snake which always puts Frank Zappa’s ’Baby Snakes’ in my head. :) I’d like to get her some Crittertrail tubes, but I might have to get her a bigger home first. Suggestions?



10/04/09  02:55pm

 #2080226


Concolor1
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  Message To: MacGoddess   In reference to Message Id: 2080221


 Pacific Gopher is What You Have . . .

My guess is it will adapt nicely . . . Your set-up looks great although I’m doubtful it will avail itself much of the branch except for shedding purposes (I use a piece of lava rock myself); these snakes don’t climb like corn snakes do . . .

Theys are great and mostly low maintenance although it may take a while to learn to "love their attitude."



10/04/09  03:19pm

 #2080231


Concolor1
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  Message To: Concolor1   In reference to Message Id: 2080226


 By The Way . . .

I love your moniker; at least I’m assuming you are of the "Steve Jobs is the True Prophet of the New Age" persuasion . . .

Windows and PC’s are for game sorts and bean counters . . .

Okay, just kidding there folks (I used to manage a computer rental company). And the religious crack was an acknowledgment I live in an area where I’m surrounded by overly zealous sorts . . .



10/04/09  03:25pm

 #2080250


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  Message To: MacGoddess   In reference to Message Id: 2080221


 Baby Pacific Gopher Snake...I think

Pretty much any snake will try to get out of their cage whether they are wild caught or captive bred and born in captivity....so dont stress that at all. Thats just a snakes nature to look for ways to get out of an enclosure. Congrats on you little guy there!!! He is a cute little thing!!!



10/04/09  04:31pm

 #2080311


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  Message To: MacGoddess   In reference to Message Id: 2080221


 Baby Pacific Gopher Snake...I think

That’s a really nice baby Pacific gopher snake!
Pituophis grow really fast, so plan on getting a bigger habitat soon!
As for trying to escape, all snakes do that. Its a snake thing.



10/04/09  08:12pm

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  Message To: Concolor1   In reference to Message Id: 2080226


 Pacific Gopher is What You Have . . .

i had actually heard that pits do climb , mine does all the time, mine is a pacific gopher snake from BC canada.



10/05/09  04:29pm

 #2080621


MacGoddess
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  Message To: Concolor1   In reference to Message Id: 2080231


 By The Way . . .

You assume correctly, concolor1. I have been using that moniker for 10 years, although there are others as well. One of them is a Mac tech and one of them sells the Mac cosmetics line. Sometimes, people ask me if I am Scottish. :)

I pledge allegiance to the Mac
of Apple Computer Incorporated,
and to the developers
for which it stands,
one platform,
under Jobs,
indestructible,
with creativity and multimedia for all.



10/05/09  06:47pm

 #2080678


MacGoddess
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  Message To: MacGoddess   In reference to Message Id: 2080621


 Am I Blue For You...

Thank you everyone for the kind comments. Again, because of you guys providing good information, I am only mildly freaking out (as opposed to full-blown panic) about the latest development. She hasn’t come out of her hide box for three days now, and the last time she ate was on the 27th. I normally would not do this, because it defeats the purpose of the hide box, but I couldn’t stand it so I lifted it up to peek in. Her eyes are cloudy and blue-ish, so I guess her reclusiveness is understandable--she is getting ready to shed!

Should I try to offer her some food or just leave her alone? I suspect leaving her alone is probably preferable. I feel like a new mother. I find that the longer I have her, the more I fall in love with her. And since I can’t see her, I can’t tell what is going on. Will she come out of her hide box to shed? Should I provide something to promote humidity or wait and see how it goes? There is a Petco nearby and I was both disappointed and relieved to discover they only had one snake in their reptile section. I mention this because they only had one type of spagnum, in a rather large bag and they wanted $14 for it. This is doable, but I wondered if there are different types where one type might be better than another, and also if I needed it at all.

I welcome any comments, suggestions, stories, etc. Thank you.



10/05/09  08:18pm

 #2080786


Greatballzofire
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  Message To: MacGoddess   In reference to Message Id: 2080678


 Am I Blue For You...


Gomez in her moist sphagnum moss hide. I use orchid moss which I get at Lowe’s in the garden section. A bag costs about $4.50. It s a softer version of the usual sphagnum moss. I put the moss hide in the aspen and cover it with a cardboard flat.

Some of my pituophis will eat while in blue while others wont. You can offer her the food and see whether or not she wants to eat.



10/06/09  12:00am

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Concolor1
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  Message To: Greatballzofire   In reference to Message Id: 2080786


 What Greatballzofire Said . . .

I don’t even have a spaghum hide for my pits, and I use Repti-Bark for my big bull and aspen for the two smaller gophers . . . Pits generally live in more arid climates than, say, corn snakes, and they don’t seem to have as great of moisture requirements (humidity won’t hurt of course). I do make a special attempt for them to have a "scratching rock" available during shed times . . .

My w/c Great Basin Gopher won’t even look at food a week before going into shed mode; the big bull, gulps down anything, however, and the yearling GB gopher has a good appetite for f/t as well as live (the W/C ate f/t for a time, but since the hunger strike ended--details can be found by scrolling down below--it has stuck with live).

I actually got a "pony bale" of garden spaghum at Albertson’s on a close-out for a buck . . . That was way more than I could ever use (even using it to reduce alkalinity in some aquariums), so I gave the rest to my parents. On my limited income stuff like that matters, and it gripes me to see things marked up simply because of extra middle men or extra packaging . . .

Those notions only apply to my choices, however (might be genetic with all the Scots in my ancestry). You all get to pay your money and make your choices . . .



10/06/09  05:48pm


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