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VenomPrx
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 Eco earth or other coco fiber

now, generally i advocate dirt mixes, clay mixes, or tiles for bearded dragons, an they work out quite cheaply and quite nicely so, i cant help but wonder- how does coco fiber act semi bone dry? does it get dusty, does it compact? what are the properties of this substrate? its mostly idle curiosity, but i see it peddled as a "cure all substrate", which as any keeper knows is a steaming crock of... but i digress. it seems initially decent, but as usual, i wish to hear a few testimonials from those who have used it in a desert application. thank you for your time.



04/26/08  11:45pm

 #1717484


Yavie
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  Message To: VenomPrx   In reference to Message Id: 1717475


 Eco earth or other coco fiber

Very dusty and fluffy when it’s dry. I’ve never tried it in a desert situation, because it’s not appropriate there (:



04/26/08  11:59pm

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Computerkid26
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  Message To: Yavie   In reference to Message Id: 1717484


 Eco earth or other coco fiber

Eco Earth and other brand of coco fiber are dusty and somewhat more compact when they are dry. They will expand quite a bit once they become moist. I don’t own a desert environment creature but I agreed with Yarie. Common sense will tell ya since certain species live in the hot desert, their natural habitat is sand while tropical species live in the moist soil environment because the substrate can retain moist effectively.



04/27/08  11:41am

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Fire4life
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  Message To: Computerkid26   In reference to Message Id: 1717812


 Eco earth or other coco fiber

i know most beardie owners just rage against the sand issue, but i use a combination of reptisand, which is a very fine powder, and eco earth. mine dont eat it or get impacted from it, but they love to dig. it can get dusty, especially with the combo i use, but they like it, so i cant see changing it. i grew up in the desert, catching snakes and horny toads (which look soooooo much like a beardie!!) they all ran around on sand and rock, but loved to find places to cool off and hide. i make sure my temps are high enough if they do decide to take a taste they can pass it, but seeing as how they only eat out of bowls or catch crix off their basking rocks, i am not too worried about it.



05/23/08  12:53am

 #1744212


Shiftylarry
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  Message To: Fire4life   In reference to Message Id: 1743820


 Eco earth or other coco fiber

Well, bearded dragons live in arid environments, but they don’t live on sand. More of a sand loam. A dry creek bed will supply you with the perfect substrate.

Yes, tile sucks. It’s unfortunate that people advocate it so violently. I’ve heard people say that bearded dragons will die in a matter of months if kept on any substrate, and yet, when I show them them ample pictures that contradict their statements or breeder accounts, they still don’t change their opinions. They just start cursing and name calling like little children. What nonsense.



05/23/08  03:40pm

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Jakemyster44
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  Message To: Shiftylarry   In reference to Message Id: 1744212


 Eco earth or other coco fiber

Its very fluffy when dry, I use it in a huimid hide for leos, but never as the main substrate



05/23/08  06:52pm


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