Your Reptile and Amphibian Resource and Information Site

Back to Caimans Forum   Forums   Home   Log-In   Log-Out   Members Area  

Caimans Forum

Toki99   Reedie   Toki99   Reedie   Crocodylus   Slimdavey   Crocodylus   Slimdavey   Crocodylus  
 Member  Message

 #1508437


Toki99
View Profile

 Enclosures

hey everyone i am new to this part of the forum i used to be on the monitor part allot but i have recently decided not to get a monitor. i was wondering if you could all post pics of your caiman, cages, tanks, or ponds.
i have been looking into spectacled caiman’s for a while now and have been highly considering getting one around Christmas time. i will start him off in a 60 gallon rubbermaid type enclosure for roughly the first year, then switch him into a 6x3x3 and so on until he gets his 8x16 plus foot cage.
thanks for the pics and input
kirk

11/10/07  12:33PM

 #1509003


Reedie
View Profile



   Message To: Toki99   In reference to Message Id: 1508437


 Enclosures

Aren’t you the guy who was dead set on getting a croc monitor? If you thought the people on .nl where tough on you getting a croc monitor, you haven’t seen anything yet. I think it would be wiser of you to go with a water or croc monitor than a caiman.

-Reed
11/10/07  10:02PM

 #1509577


Toki99
View Profile



   Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1509003


 Enclosures

I’m sorry to seem rude reed
but on what terms can you tell me what to do or what i can or cant have i don’t no how out of date your profile is but it seems all you have is a Savannah monitor and a red ear slider which would put you around the same experience level as me. i also have 6 months of volunteer work at a reptile store that actually gives a damn about what we Carry and whom we sell to.
now i may not have allot of experience with crocodillians but i have a little bit and don’t need you telling me what i cant have
now saying this i didn’t ask to be talked down to i simply asked to see habitats of caiman’s
thanks
kirk
11/11/07  11:50AM

 #1510389


Reedie
View Profile



   Message To: Toki99   In reference to Message Id: 1509577


 Enclosures

Hey, nothing against you man, but these are dangerous animals. Why did you decide not to get a monitor? They are great animals, and much safer and fun to be around.

Quote:

i don’t no how out of date your profile is but it seems all you have is a Savannah monitor and a red ear slider which would put you around the same experience level as me.


I’ve been keeping reptiles for 10 years. I’ve maintained beardies, leos, various lizards of the sceloporus genus, ratsnakes, corn snakes, bp’s, various turtles, salamanders and newts, TONS of native (Texas) herps, the list goes on and on and on. And long ago I helped take care of some amer. alligators. I have also been on thousands of herping trips, and have several journals full of observations (including alligator info) which I would be happy to share (just PM me.).

-Reed
11/11/07  09:37PM

 #1510487


Crocodylus
View Profile



   Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1510389


 Enclosures

I would Have to agree the monitor would def be your best choice regardless of what the ppl in that forum say
if you have to choose between a Caiman and a Monitor I would say go with the monitor every time. A caiman requires years of research and preparation if you are actually a responsible person and are going to keep the animal for the duration of its life. This is beside the fact as reedie said they are much more dangerous than monitors.


11/11/07  10:29PM

 #1517973


Slimdavey
View Profile



   Message To: Crocodylus   In reference to Message Id: 1510487


 Enclosures

Hey this is my first time on a forum. I have a 15 inch Dwarf Caiman, I have him currently in a 90 gallon tank for now, I?m building him a better enclosure, its going to be indoors since I live in Canada. I would appreciate any pics people have of there?s and some good info on building a suitable enclosure . I would prefere to fiberglass a background , and possibly most of the land area for a natural environment as possible . My caiman is currently living with a snapping turtle , a baby i raised from a small stream half frozen , neither has shown any signs of aggression towards each other , they bask together and are found with in inch?s of each other most of the time. My caiman Genghis, is healthily and is definitely the boss of his domain . I have a lot of respect for my animals , I do understand that he is and always will be a alligator . I would appreciate any help or advice that anyone can give me on any subject for my caiman . I have read most post?s on the caiman site and I?m a little shocked that some people on here want to seem to attack people than rather hep them.

I don?t have ten years exp, this is my first Dwarf Caiman , I?m learning and researching as much as i possibly can So if you have only negative thoughts or opinions please keep them to your selves , everything else is greatly greatly appreciated!!


Thanks and take care


Dave[Image]
11/18/07  02:47AM

 #1518632


Crocodylus
View Profile



   Message To: Slimdavey   In reference to Message Id: 1517973


 Enclosures

You probably wont have any problems now, but it would be a good idea to separate the Snapping Turtle and Caiman in the near future. Many people have tried to house these together and it almost always ends up with the Caiman losing some toes, the tip of his tail, or even an entire limb.
11/18/07  03:54PM

 #1519390


Slimdavey
View Profile



   Message To: Crocodylus   In reference to Message Id: 1518632


 Enclosures

Hey thanks , I’m constantly checking and making sure there both OK at the first sign of aggression towards one another , they will separated hopefully before I’m too late, they seem to actually like each other but they both are natural predators so i will have to see how things pan out between them , just this morning after I feed Genghis, a mouse he did most of his killing on land and drag him under water and left him there in front of Shelly the snapper , she ate most of him , Genghis went to catch two fish , does he actually prefer fish too mice ? or just wanting to eat him later after he rots a bit ?


I tried putting pics up , but I’m having problems for some reason.


Thanks for the advice !!


Dave
11/19/07  12:25AM

 #1520510


Crocodylus
View Profile



   Message To: Slimdavey   In reference to Message Id: 1519390


 Enclosures

It maybe be a combination of both. I know my American Alligator will eat just about anything I offer him but he def. has his favorites. Mine will also when i feed him mice he will drag it into the water and hold it in his mouth for quite some time before he eats it.
yeah just continue to offer him a variety which it sounds like you are, you know like a kid dont just let em eat what they want they need to have some variety for good health.
yeah the snapper most likely just ate it before the Caiman was interested enough. no biggy as long as he’s not eating solely fish.
11/19/07  11:06PM


Back to Caimans Forum   Forums   Home   Log-In   Log-Out   Members Area