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 #1975607


Ih8venomiods
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 IS IT LEGAL

Is it legal for me to own a dwarf caiman in San Diego?
03/27/09  01:51pm

 #1984769


87rx7chick
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   Message To: Ih8venomiods   In reference to Message Id: 1975607


 IS IT LEGAL

ferrets are illigal to own. i am sure caiman are too
04/12/09  05:04pm

 #2011913


Satherine
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   Message To: Ih8venomiods   In reference to Message Id: 1975607


 IS IT LEGAL

# San Diego County – It is unlawful to own, possess or maintain any venomous reptile. It is unlawful for any person to own, possess or maintain any other wild animal unless he/she complies with all federal, state and local laws, regulations and permit requirements affecting such animals.
05/27/09  02:02pm

 #2028315


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   Message To: Satherine   In reference to Message Id: 2011913


 IS IT LEGAL

are nile crocs or dwarf crocs legal in ontario?



06/24/09  09:12pm

 #2028317


Derksen
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   Message To: Satherine   In reference to Message Id: 2011913


 IS IT LEGAL

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06/24/09  09:12pm

 #2030461


Satherine
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   Message To: Derksen   In reference to Message Id: 2028317


 IS IT LEGAL

http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/brantfordON.html

((Read your local laws, I live in the US))


**** Article 4
GENERAL PROHIBITIONS
206.4.1 Prohibited classes - set out
No person shall keep, harbour or possess any animal or animals of any of the following classes anywhere within the City of Brantford:
   a) all marsupials (such as kangaroos and opossums);
   b) all non-human primates (such as gorillas and monkeys);
   c) all felids, except the domestic cat;
   d) all canids, except the domestic dog;
   e) all viverrids (such as mongooses, civets, and genets);
   f) all mustelids (such as skunks, weasels, otters and badgers);
   g) all ursids (bears);
   h) all artiodactylus ungulates, except domestic goats, sheep, pigs and cattle;
   i) all procyonids (such as racoons, coatis and cacomistles);
   j) all hyaenas;
   k) all pinnipeds (such as seals, fur seals, and walruses);
   l) all snakes of the families pythonidae and boidae;
   m) all venomous reptiles;
   n) all ratite birds (such as ostriches, rheas, cassowaries);
   o) all diurnal and nocturnal raptors (such as eagles, hawks, and owls);
   p) all edentates (such as anteaters, sloths and armadillos);
   q) all bats;
   r) all crocodilians (such as alligators and crocodiles);
   s) all arachnids (such as tarantulas); and
   t) all prohibited dogs.


ALL alligators and crocodiles are illegal in Canada. This includes Niles, Gators, Caimen, Dwarf, ALL means ALL 23 species.

The Web page is extremely long to read, but basically, (( if your are not a Research Lab, Zoo, or Licensed Exhibitor. You can not have one Legally.))


Sorry



06/28/09  04:27pm

 #2031089


Gottee guy
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   Message To: Satherine   In reference to Message Id: 2030461


 IS IT LEGAL

do you have to have a perm it to own one in the florida panhandle?
06/29/09  04:40pm

 #2031091


Gottee guy
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   Message To: Satherine   In reference to Message Id: 2030461


 IS IT LEGAL

sorry i mean to say

*do you have to have a permit to own dwarf caimans or american alligators in florida (specifically the florida panhandle)?*
06/29/09  04:41pm

 #2031182


Satherine
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   Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 2031091


 IS IT LEGAL

Florida....

Florida

* Fort Lauderdale – It is unlawful for any person to keep or permit to be kept on his premises any wild or vicious animal as a "pet." Wild animal means any animal which can not normally be found in a wild state including those feral, exotic, dangerous or nondomesticated animals which generally do not live in or about the habitation of humans such as monkeys, raccoons, skunks, squirrels, deer, tigers, lions, and the like.
* Palm Beach – No person shall keep, possess or maintain any live animal within town other than domesticated household "pets" or domesticated animals



http://myfwc.com/index.aspx


Wildlife Requiring a Permit

A. Reptiles of Concern - including subspecies and hybrids thereof

1. Burmese python (Python molurus)
2. African rock python (Python sebae)
3. Amethystine python (Morelia amethystinus)
4. Reticulated python (Python reticulatus)
5. Green anaconda (Eunectes murinus)
6. Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus)

B. Venomous Reptiles

Native Venomous Reptiles include:

1. Coral snake (Micrurus fulvius)
2. Eastern diamondback rattlesnake (Crotalus adamanteus)
3. Canebrake rattlesnake (Crotalus horridus atricaudatus)
4. Pygmy rattlesnake (Sistrurus miliarius)
5. Cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus)
6. Copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix)

All other species of venomous reptiles are considered to be nonnative.

C. Class I Wildlife

Class I wildlife are those that pose a significant danger to people. Substantial experience and specific cage requirements must be met.

Permits are required for public exhibition or sale of Class I wildlife.

Class I wildlife is prohibited from personal possession unless the animal was possessed on or before August 1, 1980.

Class I species are:

1. Chimpanzees (genus Pan)
2. Gorillas (genus Gorilla)
3. Gibbons (genus Hylobates)
4. Drills and mandrills (genus Mandrillus)
5. Orangutans (genus Pongo)
6. Baboons (genus Papaio)
7. Siamangs (genus Symphalangus)
8. Gelada baboons (genus Theropithecus)
9. Snow leopards (Panthera uncia)
10. Leopards (Panthera pardus)
11. Jaguars (Panthera onca)
12. Tigers (Panthera tigris)
13. Lions (Panthera leo)
14. Bears (family Ursidae)
15. Rhinoceros (family Rhinocerotidae)
16. Elephants (family Elephantidae)
17. Hippopotamuses (family Hippopotamidae)
18. Cape buffalos (Syncerus caffer caffer)
19. Crocodiles (except dwarf and Congo) (family Crocodilidae)
20. Gavials (family Gavialidae)
21. Black caimans (Melanosuchus niger)
22. Komodo dragons (Varanus komodoensis)

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D. Class II Wildlife

Class II wildlife can also pose a danger to people. Substantial experience and specific cage requirements must be met. Permits are required for public exhibition, sale or personal possession of Class II wildlife.

Class II species are:


1. Howler monkeys (genus Alouatta)
2. Uakaris (genus Cacajao)
3. Mangabeys (genus Cercocebus)
4. Guenons (genus Ceropithecus)
5. Bearded sakis (genus Chiropotes)
6. Guereza monkeys (genus Colobus)
7. Celebes black apes (genus Cynopithecus)
8. Idris (genus Indri)
9. Macaques (genus Macaca)
10. Langurs (genus Presbytis)
11. Douc langurs (genus Pygathrix)
12. Snub-nosed langurs (genus Phinopithecus)
13. Proboscis monkeys (genus Nasalis)
14. Servals (Leptailurus serval)
15. European and Canadian lynx (Lynx lynx)
16. Cougars, panthers (Puma concolor)
17. Bobcats (Lynx rufus)
18. Cheetahs (Acinonyx jabatus)
19. Caracals (Caracal caracal)
20. African golden cats (Profelis aurata)
21. Temminck’s golden cats (Profelis temmincki)22. Fishing cats (Prionailurus viverrina)
23. Ocelots (Leopardus pardalis)
24. Clouded leopards (Neofelis nebulosa)


25. Coyotes (Canis latrans)
26. Gray wolves (Canis lupus) (including wolf x domestic hybrids which are 25 percent or less domestic dog)
27. Red wolves (Canis niger) (including wolf x domestic hybrids which are 25 percent or less domestic dog)
28. Asiatic jackals (Canis aureus)
29. Black-backed jackals (Canis mesomelas)
30. Side-striped jackals (Canis adustus)
31. Indian dholes (Cuon alpinus)
32. African hunting dogs (Lycaon pictus)
33. Wolverines (Gulo gulo)
34. Honey badgers (Mellivora capensis)
35. American badgers (Taxides taxus)
36. Old World badgers (Meles meles)
37. Binturongs (Arctictis binturong)
38. Hyenas (all species) (family Hyaenidae)
39. Dwarf crocodiles (Osteolaemus tetraspis)
40. Alligators, caimans (except American alligator) (family Alligatoridae)
41. Ostrich (Struthio camelus)
42. Cassowary (Casuarius spp.)

E. Class III Wildlife

A permit is required for personal possession, exhibition or sale of Class III wildlife. Class III wildlife are all species not listed as Class I or Class II; and not among those species that are specifically listed as not requiring a permit for personal possession.

There is no formal list of Class III species. You must check the lists of Class I, Class II, and species not requiring a permit to determine if an animal in question is a Class III species. Florida residents 16 years of age and older may apply for permit to possess Class III wildlife.

Also, a special permit is needed to import leopard tortoises (Geochelone pardalis), African spurred tortoises (G. sulcata) or Bell’s hingeback tortoises (Kinixys belliana) from another state.


*** in short no CLAS 1, 2 or 3 lin. NOPE ***
06/29/09  07:28pm

 #2031563


Gottee guy
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   Message To: Satherine   In reference to Message Id: 2031182


 IS IT LEGAL

so i don’t need a permit to purchase a dwarf caiman?
06/30/09  01:56pm

 #2036113


SimonL
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   Message To: Derksen   In reference to Message Id: 2028315


 IS IT LEGAL

All crocodilians are legal provincially in Ontario, however most municipalities prohibit them. You have to check your local city/town bylaw.



07/08/09  12:13pm

 #2036851


Andrew-in-FL
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   Message To: SimonL   In reference to Message Id: 2036113


 IS IT LEGAL

i heard all big cats are legal in fl, i live here, and have heard that frequently.
07/09/09  07:21pm


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