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 #1654736


Stina
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 HELP Pygmy eggs!

OK...so my cute little girl Chai layed 5 eggs this morning! I only have a bedding on moss, no soil but she just layed them on the moss. They looked fine this morning and I read that they can stay where they are until they hatch but tonight they look deflated!!
I mist 2x a day so the moss is good and wet. Is this normal? Should I move them or is it too late?
I was SO excited about them.


I made sure to place this one back in the same position as when I picked it up.



03/09/08  10:01pm

 #1654955


Julirs
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1654736


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

You need to place them in some kind of incubation media and container. Like moist vermiculite in a plastic tupperware container with a lid with a few small holes in it. They will quicky dehydrate if left where they are. They usually bury them, and in that case it would be OK to leave them if the substrate was adequately moist.



03/09/08  11:50pm

 #1655182


Stina
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  Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1654955


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

So do you think these will be OK? I moved them into a small critter keeper with moist soil but is it too late once they look like this? I buried them very shallow, just barely covered with soil.
They are all like this and one looks like it was broken.



03/10/08  09:35am

 #1655366


Boothy
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1655182


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

yes if they havent fully shriveld up then they should still be good , iv hatched a few clutches of veilds and some of the eggs would be dented right through the hole 6 month incubation, but yours are being indented by lack of moisture through the air , but i was gona say put them in a tupper wear container but you have them in a critter keeper so just about the same maybe tape off the top and leave just two 1/8 th holes in diagonal corners for air flow and then set them to the aquired temp for incubating the eggs and if all goes well you will have lil ones ahah but i hope its not to late for you , if it is dont worry everyone makes mistakes gota be human to make em and the next time you will know forsure wat to do so when ever it happens your confident you can do it



03/10/08  01:25pm

 #1658030


Stina
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  Message To: Boothy   In reference to Message Id: 1655366


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Thanks for the help Boothy. Will they reinflate or are they going to stay shriveled? How long do I wait? I’ve read everything from 45 days to 6 months.



03/12/08  09:49am

 #1666886


CHAMILLINARE
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1658030


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

WHAT U NEED TO DO IS TRY TO GO TO THE PET STORE AND BUY SOME SAND AND BURY THEM DEEP DOWN



03/19/08  12:38am

 #1668638


Boothy
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1658030


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

NO deff dont listen to chamillinare! they do that only in the wild because its the natural habitate so they eggs are perfectly incubated underground, in captivity if you buried them they would shrivel up and die on you because we dont have the proper climate for them , and yes they will reflate themselfs as the moisture in the air gets greater , they shrivel because some of the moisture in the egg has dehydrated because of lack of moisture , but im not sure how long it is for them i know my veilds took 6 months each time and they are a bigger speicies so just google it you should find how long it takes for eggs to hatch, and befor the eggs hatch they will sweat lil beads of moisture that is the moisture in the egg seeping out so the baby can hatch but if you need anything else im sure julirs does pygmies so just pm him and he might also be of some help to you



03/20/08  01:39pm

 #1676767


CHAMILLINARE
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  Message To: Boothy   In reference to Message Id: 1668638


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

you dont know what you are talking about who would ever listen to you you are suppose to have sand in there even if its not from the wild so you need to get that straight right now



03/26/08  04:52pm

 #1676851


Julirs
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  Message To: CHAMILLINARE   In reference to Message Id: 1676767


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Please do not use sand. Please. Pygmies do not live anywhere near sand---were you thinking sea turtles? Incubate pygmy eggs just like any other chameleon eggs-in Hatchrite, Vermiculite, or Perlite. Some people have babies hatch in their tanks, and that is fine if you can regulate the moisture of your substrate.



03/26/08  05:46pm

 #1677713


Jonas77
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  Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1676851


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Quote:

Please do not use sand. Please. Pygmies do not live anywhere near sand---were you thinking sea turtles? Incubate pygmy eggs just like any other chameleon eggs-in Hatchrite, Vermiculite, or Perlite.



But they DO live anywhere near Vermiculte/Perlite?
Where was your mind when you wrote this?



03/27/08  12:12pm

 #1677765


Julirs
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  Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1677713


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Did I deserve to be attacked? I do not think there is anything wrong with what I wrote. Read the above posts. I was only making the point that sand is not a recommended incubating substrate. Jonas-do you think it is an acceptable incubating substrate? In that case I would have to ask where your head is. Do you even have pygmies?



03/27/08  01:26pm

 #1678012


Jonas77
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  Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1677765


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Best julirs. Your argument to not using sand is that it is not "natural" and/or not a substrate that pygmy chameleons encounter in their habitat. I question your argument against sand as your counter-materials you recommend is everything but natural (its man-made) and hardly something ANY chameleon will find int their habitat. You might want to explain what makes sand so bad.

My experience in keeping and breeding reptiles include several chameleon species (including pygmys). I have hatched hundreds of chamelon eggs, some in sand. How many did you hatch and in what substrate? How many did you try to hatch in sand, considering you seem to be sure it wont work?



03/27/08  04:55pm

 #1678106


Julirs
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  Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1678012


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Again-why attack me? Sand is not a recommended incubating substrate-why chance it. I am happy that you can hatch things in sand. I would not try it. To many variables. No need for further attacks. Thanks! :)



03/27/08  05:42pm

 #1678221


Boothy
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  Message To: CHAMILLINARE   In reference to Message Id: 1676767


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Hey chamillinare how long have you been a member of this site and how long have you been keeping chameleons??? me iv been into them for 3 yrs and have been on this site for about 2.5 to 3 yrs and i do know what im talking about , it seems to me that you are a new comer and all i see is you givin advice witch really isnt advice at all , so you dont know what your talking about and you need to get that straight right now cause your gona have alot of ppl on you because you said this and that witch isnt true , this is how myths or lil white lies get tossed around and this is why jonas or lunaC or even Alan johnson stress to ppl to do there research so get doing some until then good day to you please dont give anymore advice at all until you have researched that hole animal other then that dont even post cause your gona have someone mad just saying from experience of watching ppl do it so think about and dont expect me to reply back ahaha i hav better things to do then argue with a lil kid



03/27/08  06:41pm

 #1679452


Jonas77
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  Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1678106


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Attack? Questioning someones statement cant be called an attack. You would be living in the dark age in a flat world with a sun circling us with that attitude.



03/28/08  04:16pm

 #1679524


Julirs
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  Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1679452


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

"Where was your mind when you wrote this?"

I did not consider this a friendly statement, sorry-my mind must have been somewhere else. Game over. I am only here to help people.



03/28/08  05:09pm

 #1686654


AW love da iggys
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1654736


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

to answer your questions, 30 to 60 days for incubation, depending on temps and type of pygmy cham.



04/02/08  04:50pm

 #1687034


Stina
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  Message To: AW love da iggys   In reference to Message Id: 1686654


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Thanks Aw love da iggys:
it’s all a mute point anyway. The eggs never recovered, they continued to shrivel and finally turned brown even though I checked the moisture every day. I was carefull to keep the soil moist but I’m thinking they either weren’t fertile or they were too far gone already. It just goes to show how quick you have to act. Those eggs were only exposed to dry air for a few hours before they shriveled.



04/02/08  09:25pm

 #1746390


LeopardLover<3
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  Message To: Stina   In reference to Message Id: 1687034


 HELP Pygmy eggs!

Well next eggs if they dent maybe you could put a moist paper towel over them it brings leopard gecko eggs back very well someone please correct me if I am wrong but thats my opinion Sorry about your eggs



05/25/08  09:44pm


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