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 #1778582


Chezequers
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 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

hey ya’all meet George (guess who he’s named after hehe)











needs some work on the decor i know
06/30/08  12:44pm

 #1778648


PARTYPHIL
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1778582


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

uh the only problem is that chameleons need full ventalation 360 around them
06/30/08  01:44pm

 #1778654


Charlystarly
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   Message To: PARTYPHIL   In reference to Message Id: 1778648


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Yeah but you live in the US where it’s hotter. Were in the UK where it’s cold esp upstairs(i’m his lil sis if you wanna no) The US is alot hotter that the UK even in heat waves it barely reaches up to 24C and thats rare.

Charlotte x
06/30/08  01:55pm

 #1778716


PARTYPHIL
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   Message To: Charlystarly   In reference to Message Id: 1778654


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

o sorry but your cham does need more things to climb on and uch more foliage
06/30/08  03:14pm

 #1778771


Jonas77
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 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

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uh the only problem is that chameleons need full ventalation 360 around them



This is not true, it is a matter of VENTILATION, look at how your ventilation in your house looks. You dont need a screen cage rto get good ventilation, thats a myth - a myth that unfortunatly make people keep their animals in too-low humidity instead.

Please dont "give advice" on things you are not sure of.
06/30/08  04:30pm

 #1778984


LunaC
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1778582


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Definitely ... needs WAY more foliage. Why not use the same foliage you had for your frilly? Just disinfect it and put it in there!
Little George needs to feel secure, espcially since he has so little cover, so keep handling to a minimum for now.
He’s a lovely little cham :)
06/30/08  08:08pm

 #1779372


Yexalen
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   Message To: LunaC   In reference to Message Id: 1778984


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

George is really cute Chez!

I will be getting a Male here soon... I dont want one that small though... but I guess it depends on what I can find.

The cage looks good but AS YOU SAID it still needs more decor and foliage. Craft stores are great to get fake plants and such. At least in a small area so that he can try to hide.

Cant wait to watch him grow up. Why don’t you go show the WD peoples!




07/01/08  03:37am

 #1779399


Chezequers
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   Message To: Yexalen   In reference to Message Id: 1779372


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

haha thanks he’s not that small if you look on this board for a thread with a chameleon named phantom you will see just how small they can be lol but yes he is pretty young

hehe i was gonna get him some but i had enough to buy for him yesterday but since i have more a little more money now ill get him a few plants when i go to get him and puff some crickets later

hehe i think i may if the webmaster doesn’t block me for it again
07/01/08  05:58am

 #1780053


Yexalen
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1779399


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

I know they get a lot smaller but he is still small compared to the size we want to get.

But cant wait to see more pics when you get the viv all decked out.
07/01/08  09:05pm

 #1780257


Audio
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   Message To: Yexalen   In reference to Message Id: 1780053


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

what’s that black box in the back? really nice cage by the way, i’m sure once you get more stuff in it it’ll be perfect



07/02/08  01:19am

 #1781970


Chezequers
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   Message To: Audio   In reference to Message Id: 1780257


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

it’s an AHS by the company microclimate its a thermostat regulated ceramic plate incased in a black box



the tank as it is now



a better photo he looks a little spooked in this one though
07/03/08  05:47pm

 #1782841


PARTYPHIL
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1781970


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

wow much better but a big live plant in there like ficus benjamina or pothos for climbing
07/04/08  02:27pm

 #1782921


Chezequers
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 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

ficus have been known to cause eye issues, and with a tank like this the humidity is already perfectly at 60% a plant would screw that right up so no lol
07/04/08  04:35pm

 #1783598


Jonas77
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1782921


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Ok, look, there is still no room for "lol"’s and taking this lightly. Your cage is still not very good. There is NO reason to use your perfect 60%-mark as a reason not to put plants in there, there is really nothing wrong with a higher humidity. The risk of ficus benjamin causing eye irritation is minimal and people (me included) have used it many many years without problems.

You just dont seem to understand scaling; when chameleons are small the materials in the cage must be small as well, just look at that picture, the cham is holding on to a branch as big as its own body - it should be able to grip it between its toes.

Im linking some pictures to show you how dense the shrubbery should be, just copy and paste, then shange"DOT" to a ".".

http://www.reptiDOTnet/reptile_picture/Chamaeleo+calyptratus_61387.jpg
http://www.reptiDOTnet/reptile_picture/Chamaeleo+calyptratus_59067.jpg
http://www.reptiDOTnet/reptile_picture/Chamaeleo+calyptratus_57005.jpg
07/05/08  02:42pm

 #1784246


Dazza12345789
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   Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1783598


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Yer sorry dude i have to agree with Jonas 77, you do need still a bit more foilage and smaller branches. Also i live in the U.K yet i have a screen cage and manage to keep heat and humidity high. Yes a also use a ficus benjamina and my cham loves it! here are some pics




Also with the cage my cham is in he is thriving, so the screen is obviously good!

Daz
07/06/08  07:04am

 #1784277


Dazza12345789
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   Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1783598


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Yer sorry dude but i have to agree with Jonas77 as you do need a lot more foliage for the cham to feel safe, also i live in the UK yet have a screened enclosure for my cham yet i can manage to sustain high temperatures and humidity... it just takes a little work! Heres a few pics:



Also with this cage my chameleon love it, he totally thrives so i must be doing something right!!!

Daz
(if i have already posted this im sorry yet my computer is playing up!)
07/06/08  08:12am

 #1784583


Chezequers
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   Message To: Dazza12345789   In reference to Message Id: 1784277


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

i know i need more and i plan to get more but the little fella is eating properly he’s coloured correctly he’s not showing any negative signs but dont get me wrong he is getting more folliage

i had this tank already and as i said the chameleon is doing good he’s nice and settled so i wont be using a flexarium.

nice chameleon is it a panther or a veiled in a very strange pose?



07/06/08  02:59pm

 #1784633


Dazza12345789
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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1784583


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Ok, lol sorry if i affended you, i didnt mean to!!! and i suppose as long as he likes it, some may prefer it whilst some may hate it!! yours obviously likes it. And yer it a panther he is only around 8 months so not too much colour yet!!!

Cheers
Daz
07/06/08  03:47pm

 #1785629


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   Message To: Jonas77   In reference to Message Id: 1778771


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

look at how your ventilation in your house looks. You dont need a screen cage rto get good ventilation,


I also don’t eat off the walls, lick my drinks off the sofa, and crap on the floor of my only >>1 ROOM<< house..just a thought :)
In my opinion screen cages are better, so long as you keep the humidity up. Can a cham live in a completely closed enclosure..yea, but most anyone you will talk to will suggest and know a screen cage is better. There has obviously been alot of problems with ventilation and disease in the past otherwise 90% of the cham community and cham breeders wouldn’t use and suggest you use screen cages.
But you know what they say ..
Opinions are like.. well you know the rest. lol
07/07/08  12:00pm

 #1818354


Charlystarly
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   Message To: Cammo08   In reference to Message Id: 1785629


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

Well considering that he’s been living for weeks in that tank somehow i don’t think he’s suffocating. And he’s doubled in size since we got him. He’s 8" now, so somehow I think he’s doing well. And as for everyone saying about the plant, there’s a reason why, you may not have experianced problems with a ficas yourself but there have been reports and we don’t want to take that risk. Also about the foliage, we said that we’re getting more so quit going on about it as if we’re not going to get any. sheesh!

Charlotte x
08/03/08  04:27pm

 #1820749


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   Message To: Cammo08   In reference to Message Id: 1785629


 Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon

cammo 08 did you quite possibly eat wall candy as a child ??? just asking

and how can you keep humidity up with out spending a couple hundred or even a few thousand dollars on a humidifier, its an all screen cage your humidity is going to escape depending on where you live , if you live in the united states where its hot and humidity is very high , then an all screen enclosure is fine where as canada and europe get very dry air in our winter months so we use a glass enclosure that has proper ventilation and if you have proper ventilation then there is no worrying of your animal geting sick

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There has obviously been alot of problems with ventilation and disease in the past otherwise 90% of the cham community and cham breeders wouldn’t use and suggest you use screen cages.



if you have PROPER ventilation then whats the problem ??? the problem is ppl arent doing enough research befor they get there animal and its not fair at all to the animal that the owner is uneducated



08/05/08  04:50pm


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