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 #1842913


Chippychop
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 Reptileruler of all ages!

he whats up ??? how are your lizards doing?at the moment I have 23 wyoming lizards blue belly sage brush,and westurn fence swifts, do you know what the pink belly lizards are???right now I,m sorting the blue belly males and females out’I think the pink bellies are really female fence lizards ,but I,m not totally sure???I will post some pics soon of the swifts/and collards!
talk to you later CHIP!



08/26/08  10:01am

 #1843556


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1842913


 Reptileruler of all ages!

pink belly lizards are a subspecies of the fence lizard and like the fence lizards the males of each species will have bright blue or pink on belly and under chin females will have little to no color on belly and chins ps my lizards are doing great oh and make sure to keep their basking spot at around 95 they like some foliage and although many will argue I have raised my fence lizards on walnut shells and it is a really good substrate even though it supposedly will impale your lizard and kill it ya right and if you want a use sand just keep in mind it heats up pretty well I had one of my fence lizards bellies almost get burned through by sand. ya and people will probably reply to this post saying no don’t use it it will give your lizard impaction but none of my lizards have ever died from impaction also if your worried about impaction just set a big water dish in the tank and put their food in that that’s about it oh ya they like a little foliage. RR1



08/26/08  08:56pm

 #1844002


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1843556


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I have terrible news.it,s not impaction you should be afraid of//what you should really fear is drowning in the water bowl.I just killed alot of my lizards they all drowned in the water bowl less than four inches of water heated to(thats what killed them)the heat er had an electrical short of some kind every lizard that came over to drink and get a bath died!I lost everyone of my collards including a gravid female/and also believe it or not I lost my australian water dragon(he was in with the collards ,believe it or not they were axtually mingling well/collards taught him how to eat veraciously and he taught the collards how to swim)but now that is all behind us and in my pet cemetery now lies 6 lizards!I am very sad.and I,am extremely sorry accidents do happen and when they do it takes a whole bunch of lizards with it at one time.



08/27/08  10:46am

 #1844315


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1844002


 Reptileruler of all ages!

well putting a heat mat under the water is a really bad idea since sometimes the water can turn into a hot tub
and like you said kill them also I know they might have getting along but even so mixing collareds with any other species isn’t a good idea and since they have such different habitats it probably wasn’t such a good idea because sometimes other lizard species can carry diseases that the other lizard species might not be immune to. I am very sorry for your loss i’m just telling you so you won’t have to deal with it again and I also wanted to say there is an add on kingsnake.com for collared lizards you can get them for 6 bucks a piece if you buy 5. sorry for your loses.



08/27/08  04:57pm

 #1844542


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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1844315


 Reptileruler of all ages!

Im sorry for your loss also. How old do collards need to be inorder to breed?



08/27/08  08:14pm

 #1845059


Chippychop
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  Message To: Dahawks02   In reference to Message Id: 1844542


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I,m not sure when actual adolesence begins but I would say collards have a deffinate life span of ten yrs.every bit of eight for sure /and I would guess at about two yrs of age or two season they would be ready to breed !do you have a link to the collards for sale?????also I have learned a huge and valuible lesson/I normaly don’t house diffrent species together it was pretty much a fluke that I did /what a price to pay for learning /don’t take any chances it could bite you in the butt like it did me!I will re-up my collard collection hopefully soon!like really soon !I actually feel horible and wish I could take back some of the things I said and felt in the past ... laters CHIP!



08/28/08  01:10pm

 #1845167


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1845059


 Reptileruler of all ages!

here’s the link http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=34&de=619451 sorry they’re no longer 6 bucks a piece but they are 10 bucks a piece and he says he has gravid collared lizards for sale but don’t get them for three reasons 1they might not even be gravid 2 they could lay the eggs while being shipped 3 the female could be so stressed from shipping that she or the eggs or both would die just thought i’d tell you that see ya RR1



08/28/08  03:41pm

 #1846055


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1845167


 Reptileruler of all ages!

hey repti!!!! I got a hatchling!!! it’s a baby sage brush lizard! my question is can I keep it with the adults or will they eat it????



08/29/08  12:18pm

 #1846233


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1846055


 Reptileruler of all ages!

short and simply no



08/29/08  03:50pm

 #1846929


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1846233


 Reptileruler of all ages!

thats what I thought wasn’t sure though it’s my first hatchling!!!!oh and I bought a new lizard!I picked up a chineese water dragon for little to nothing!he’s baby tame and already loves his new home !I’m right now getting ready to re-budget so I can purchase a hole bunch of collards !sure would like to see a couple of your cages and set ups !!!so I can follow the correct recipe for keeping collards . thanks CHIP!



08/30/08  10:51am

 #1847315


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1846929


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I’ll do that sometime this week



08/30/08  08:09pm

 #1847794


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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1847315


 Reptileruler of all ages!

very cool thank you!chip!



08/31/08  12:03pm

 #1848869


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1847794


 Reptileruler of all ages!

here it is

I added 1 big flat rock for them to hide under since that photo



09/01/08  05:16pm

 #1849434


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1848869


 Reptileruler of all ages!

now these little guys are fun/these are westrn fence lizards ,also blue belly swift and a new adittion to the family!what are all those medals for!!!!!do you play violin or something?????CHIP!



09/02/08  11:48am

 #1849616


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1849434


 Reptileruler of all ages!

oh they are running medals



09/02/08  04:24pm

 #1850919


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1849616


 Reptileruler of all ages!

did you like the fence swifts pics I took???I,ll take more aS I go CHIP!



09/03/08  09:57pm

 #1851521


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1850919


 Reptileruler of all ages!

ya there good but not all those are fence lizards some are sagebrush



09/04/08  07:46pm

 #1852089


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1851521


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I’ll take more pics ?you can I dentify several of them with me!sound like fun we’ll do a feild study together!I can’t waite to show you my notes!thanks see ya Chip!oh yeah did you here about the super zoo in vegas?????buh buy for now CHIP!



09/05/08  02:48pm

 #1852155


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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1852089


 Reptileruler of all ages!

ya I look forward to that tell me when you get some new collareds



09/05/08  04:18pm

 #1853757


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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1852155


 Reptileruler of all ages!

Just courious. My 7 month old male collared waggs his tail. Does anybody know what this means?



09/07/08  03:14pm

 #1853792


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  Message To: Dahawks02   In reference to Message Id: 1853757


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I think it means they’re trying to make the predator/you be more interested in grabbing his tail and not him



09/07/08  04:04pm

 #1854711


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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1853792


 Reptileruler of all ages!

oh. That kind of sucks. When do they usually stop seeing us humans as predators? I have only had him for 3 weeks now



09/08/08  06:11pm

 #1854807


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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1853792


 Reptileruler of all ages!

oh. When do they ususally stop seeing us humans as predators? I only have had him for about 3 weeks



09/08/08  07:44pm

 #1854812


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  Message To: Dahawks02   In reference to Message Id: 1854807


 Reptileruler of all ages!

sorry i didnt know it posted my first one....



09/08/08  07:45pm

 #1854818


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  Message To: Dahawks02   In reference to Message Id: 1854812


 Reptileruler of all ages!

well wild caught males if thats what you have usually don’t settle down for a year like mine he’s still mean but he doesn’t see me as a predator or a threat anymore and he might not see you as a predator but probably a threat.



09/08/08  07:51pm

 #1855174


Chippychop
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  Message To: Reptileruler1   In reference to Message Id: 1854818


 Reptileruler of all ages!

I had a collard who waggled his tail //he did it for two reasons he was corting with a femaLE AND HE WOULD GET EXCITED WHEN EATING AND HIS TAIL WOULD WIGGLE AND GIGLLE AND IT WAS AWSOME. so sometimes they just wiggle and wag just to do it //it is a natural thing however for a collard to waggle his tail when being held!after yourlizard gets used to you that should stop! hope this helps Chip!



09/09/08  01:50am


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