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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Rescue Corn
Anyway, he’s beautiful. Eats F/T like there’s no tomorrow (He is probably about four years old, small for his age?). He eats 2 adult mice per week. He’s about three or 3.5 feet long, I’d say, but we can’t exactly measure him without being bitten. We’ve had him for I think two years now (just keeps taking up more room, lol). By the way, he has a UTH and is in a heated shelving unit. He’s in a 20L tank (working him into a 40, but he keeps escaping so we have to find one with a sliding lid) and we use carefresh bedding. He is fed in a separate bag once a week and never fails to eat. Anyway, here he is. Mad as ever, lol. He’s Anerthrystic?
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| 04/07/08 12:51am |
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Ichigo View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1692580 Rescue Corn
Quote: He’s Anerthrystic?
no hes not,but im so bad at giving advice i will let other people answer  |
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| 04/07/08 12:55am |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: Ichigo In reference to Message Id: 1692586 Rescue Corn
Don’t really know much about morphs, I suppose. |
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| 04/07/08 01:12am |
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Nocash13 View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1692601 Rescue Corn
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| 04/07/08 02:04am |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: Nocash13 In reference to Message Id: 1692630 Rescue Corn
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| 04/07/08 02:13am |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1692634 Rescue Corn
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| 04/07/08 02:15am |
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Yasha View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1692601 Rescue Corn
Your boy is Amelanistic (Amel for short)- meaning he lacks melanin (the black pigment) which technically makes him an albino or "red albino" as you sometimes see them advertised as in stores. Anerythristic (Anery for short) means they have no red pigment (subsequently no oranges and little to no yellow) and are basically black and white, with the yellowish markings on the chin and body section just behind the head varying in intensity from animal to animal. It was discovered that there are actually two type of anerythristic snake. Anery type A (or "Black albino" as you might see), which is the most commonly occurring in nature, and features weak yellow markings around the head of an overall black and white snake. Anery type B, more commonly referred to as "Charcoal", are the same as type A’s, but lack even the faint traces of yellow on the chin. These are much more uncommon in the wild, but abundant in the pet trade. |
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| 04/07/08 02:19am |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: Yasha In reference to Message Id: 1692639 Rescue Corn
I think it actually originally had the right name but with switching him to a bigger cage and re writing his label every ten minutes and him escaping (even with a padlock on it!) and turning up in the turtle cage twice a month I guess the name got a little confused...he’s a devilish little thing! So, who wants to drive to WA state to get a rescue corn? |
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| 04/07/08 02:24am |
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Demon the corn snake View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1692640 Rescue Corn
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| 04/07/08 02:30pm |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: Yasha In reference to Message Id: 1692639
Quote: It was discovered that there are actually two type of anerythristic snake. There are actually three now, with a newly recognized and proven anerytheristic C. It is very similar to anery b, but leans more towards a chestnut color.
Quote: Anery type B, more commonly referred to as "Charcoal", are the same as type A’s, but lack even the faint traces of yellow on the chin. This is incorrect. Anery A and anery B are not the same at all. Even though some animals of each type may look similar in appearance, genetically they are very different. The appearance of yellow on the chin is not a fool proof way to distinguish between the two, as there have been charcoals produced with yellow, and regular anery’s without it.
Example...if you breed an Anery A to an Amel, you get snow corns (well in the F2 generation anyways), but if you breed an Anery B to an Amel, you get Blizzards. Just wanted to set that straight. |
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| 04/07/08 06:18pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1693388 Rescue Corn
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| 04/07/08 06:32pm |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1693411 Rescue Corn
Any taming tips? Also wondering if anyone uses carefresh for a bedding instead of aspen. I’m not a huge fan of aspen (though I’m well aware that it is a perfectly acceptable substrate) and we use carefresh instead for most animals. Is it just as good? We’ve found it to be less dusty and easier to burrow in (lighter). It also smells better and is more absorbant. Anyway... |
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| 04/08/08 12:33am |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: Dragongirl6 In reference to Message Id: 1694079
Quote: You’re my Hero! LOL...Who luvs ya baby?
I can’t help you on the Carefresh question, as I have never used it. As for taming, that’s an easy one. A schedule of gradual handling will allow your snake to become familiar with you and your scent. Don’t do things to startle your snake, like make quick or jerky movements in its direction. Try to reach in its enclosure and approach it from a low angle, and pick it up from the side if at all possible. Now here’s the hardest part for some people. If you have a snake that actually strikes and/or bites, the best way I have found that works time and time again: Let it bite you. Don’t jerk away. Most corns, from my experience are bluffing anyways and strike with closed mouths. Don’t jerk away. On the odd occasion that one does bite, let it bite you and then proceed to handle it as you would have. By allowing the snake to strike and/or bite and you NOT jerking away or showing any type of with-drawl, you will teach the snake two things.... 1. You are not an aggressor or a predator and are not going to harm it. 2. This behavior of striking and/or biting is ineffective anyways, and it will eventually cease to use this as a defensive tactic. This is from my experience and what has worked for me. If necessary, wear some thin leather gloves. I say leather because if the snake does actually bite, it won’t get entangled in material or threads. This may also give you the confidence NOT to jerk your hand away, since you know you are now impervious to snake bites while wearing said magical gloves. 
Good luck and be patient. It may not tame down over night, and some never do tame down. But that is very rare from what I have seen. |
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| 04/08/08 03:57am |
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SusanC View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1694179 Rescue Corn
Ok is someone going to tell me that since I said Ari has more white... that she isn’t the same... tell me quick before I become overly excited lol that I finally know the truth... the woman I bought her from was told by the pet store she was a creamsicle... I’ve never kept corns.. so I did my husbandry research and bought her... sight unseen... but I love them! Now I want a purple one.. a pink one.. a yellow one.. lol a red one... BTW... beautiful snake... good luck on adopting him out..let me know if you change your mind and want to ship... *pouts* I really want him. |
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| 04/08/08 10:52am |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: SusanC In reference to Message Id: 1694416 Rescue Corn
Ugh. Obviously, we wouldn’t do that, but we just haven’t had many good experiences with shipping. I’ll send you lots of pics though! lol. |
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| 04/09/08 01:55am |
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Yasha View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1693388 Rescue Corn
Quote: There are actually three now, with a newly recognized and proven anerytheristic C.
Really? There are three types now!? I had no idea... Most of my knowledge on morphs and basic genetics comes from books which could be why it’s a little off. I was just going by what I read in Kathy Love’s book here, and it only listed two types, though the book might be a bit out dated now, since new things are being discovered all the time. Quote: This is incorrect. Anery A and anery B are not the same at all.
Oh... This is another of those mistakes I mentioned above. I’ve read that it is fairly easy to tell them apart visualy because of the yellow, but I guess what i’ve been reading is wrong or something. I have only been getting into the genetic side of things for about a year so I still make mistakes in regards, but I do feel I know enough to try to help out if none else steps in. I figured anery and amel were simple to classify but I guess I was wrong! Thanks for pointing it out so I didn’t go and pass incorrect stuff onto another newbie! ^_^ |
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| 04/09/08 03:22am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Yasha In reference to Message Id: 1695725 Rescue Corn
Hornet |
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| 04/09/08 06:20am |
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Cornsnakeguy View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1695765 Rescue Corn
 I just hate when people abuse pets. |
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| 04/09/08 08:04am |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1695765
Quote: Just out of interest are there any more up to date books out at the moment? I don’t have Don’s book, but I will tell you one that is very up to date...it was just released for sale on the 17th of March this year...
Cornsnake Morph Guide 2008 Edition Charles Pritzel Here’s one place you can order it...Link |
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| 04/09/08 10:46am |
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Javajake View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1694179 Rescue Corn
You can do the same thing with a wild caught snake... Eventually, they will settle down... However, you can almost be guaranteed that they will get cranky every now and then, especially if you don’t keep you with handling them often. But, the real secret is to not fear being bitten... Even if you are, it’s only a corn snake... No real harm... Just wash it out with some rubbing alcohol when your done handling the snake. |
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| 04/09/08 02:40pm |
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Javajake View Profile |
Message To: Yasha In reference to Message Id: 1692639 Rescue Corn
After snooping around the net, I figured mine qualified as a "Reverse Okeetee" which I understand is actually a type of Anerythristic. Is this correct? Here’s a photo of mine...
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| 04/09/08 03:17pm |
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RePtiLOVER View Profile |
Message To: Javajake In reference to Message Id: 1696187 Rescue Corn
Quote: There are actually three now, with a newly recognized and proven anerytheristic C. It is very similar to anery b, but leans more towards a chestnut color.
With a 4th on the way... |
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| 04/09/08 03:39pm |
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Javajake View Profile |
Message To: Javajake In reference to Message Id: 1696187 Rescue Corn
Quote: This snake looks very similar to mine... Only older...
After snooping around the net, I figured mine qualified as a "Reverse Okeetee" which I understand is actually a type of Anerythristic. Is this correct? Here’s a photo of mine... [Image Here] Oops, I meant to say, type of Amelanistic NOT Anerythristic... I can see how a label could easily get mixed up. lol |
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| 04/09/08 03:45pm |
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Dragongirl6 View Profile |
Message To: Javajake In reference to Message Id: 1696224 Rescue Corn
Ok, this weekend I’ll go for it. I’ll just pick him up and hope for the best : ) I think it might actually take longer than a wild snake because he was actually mistreated and mishandled before, so he has absolutely no trust in people, not to mention the fact that he hasn’t been handled more than necessary since we’ve had him. Well, here goes nothing! |
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| 04/09/08 06:59pm |
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Yasha View Profile |
Message To: Javajake In reference to Message Id: 1696224 Rescue Corn
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| 04/10/08 12:06am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Yasha In reference to Message Id: 1697074 Rescue Corn
Hornet |
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| 04/10/08 01:53am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1697179 Rescue Corn
Quote: Sorry but this is incorrect. "reverse Okeetees" have nothing to do with the Okeetee gene itself, and visa versa. Reverse Okeetees are amelanistic corns that have been SELECTIVELY bred to enhance the white to form the borders around the dorsal blotches. You can actually get amelanistic Okeetee corn snakes the will look like any other "albino" corn in appearance. The name Reverse Okeetee came about because the usual black boarders around the red or dark orange dorsal blotches of the Okeetee has been replaced with white. Therefore it is "reversed".
Beautiful reverse Okeetee anyways! There we go. Hornet |
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| 04/10/08 01:59am |
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Jessica71 View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1697183 Rescue Corn
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| 04/10/08 05:25am |
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Fps Master G View Profile |
Message To: Jessica71 In reference to Message Id: 1697244
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| 04/10/08 03:49pm |
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Yasha View Profile |
Message To: Fps Master G In reference to Message Id: 1697708 Rescue Corn
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