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Eli_&_Anthony View Profile |
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| 04/07/08 03:18pm |
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S*A*M View Profile |
Message To: Eli_&_Anthony In reference to Message Id: 1693124 My new baby
not good dont handle for 14 days... then feed it it must of just been fed before you bought itbasically if it throws up, it wont have the aacids in the belly to digest so if you feeds will keep throwing up till it dies, hence why you should wait 14 days, everyone says 10, but imo 14 is better |
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| 04/07/08 03:25pm |
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Demon the corn snake View Profile |
Message To: Eli_&_Anthony In reference to Message Id: 1693124 My new baby
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| 04/07/08 03:29pm |
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Traviss View Profile |
Message To: Demon the corn snake In reference to Message Id: 1693131 My new baby
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| 04/07/08 05:01pm |
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Eli_&_Anthony View Profile |
Message To: Traviss In reference to Message Id: 1693268
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| 04/07/08 06:18pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Eli_&_Anthony In reference to Message Id: 1693387 My new baby
Get the snake off the sand ASAP! Buy Aspen bedding (Regular or Fine Shredded). A snake regurging one time is not a "Life and Death" situation that you need to worry about. The pinky was probably just too much (too big) for it. But...repeated regurges would be a serious problem. Also...to properly control the UTH...go to Home Depot and get this "Slide-Type Lamp Dimmer" switch...
And I would HIGHLY recommend that you spend $10 and buy this book...
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| 04/07/08 06:53pm |
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Imotep View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1693442 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 06:00am |
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S*A*M View Profile |
Message To: Imotep In reference to Message Id: 1694217 My new baby
no trouble as long as you have a stat with it so ScyllaCharybdis, thats abit of wrong info their as my bf keeps saying to me in the wild they dont have mats, its the suns heat coming down on them. make sure you have a gaurd on the bulb aswell. |
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| 04/08/08 06:48am |
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Jessica71 View Profile |
Message To: S*A*M In reference to Message Id: 1694231 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 07:58am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Jessica71 In reference to Message Id: 1694264 My new baby
However there is another option which is what I did. When I got my corn he was too small for the 3ft long viv I have for him (Due to stress and being able to fit between the sliding doors) so using a pen pal plastic tank (Equivalent to a 10 gall US) I placed one end just slighly away from the heat lamp. That way he got the temperature he needed with being able to maintain a gradient at the same time, just a thought that may help. So don’t be so quick to shun the heat lamp in my experience it is much better than the mat but that’s just me, like Wisema said not really practical to have a heat lamp for every snake when you have 40 of them! Hornet |
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| 04/08/08 08:17am |
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S*A*M View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1694276 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 09:15am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: S*A*M In reference to Message Id: 1694333 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 09:34am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1694351 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 09:55am |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1694366 My new baby
"Can" he use a heat lamp? Yes! Do I "Recommend" he use a Heat Lamp? No! A UTH is more efficient, allows the snake to digest food better and removes the chance of the snake getting burned. "I" was looking at the whole picture and not just a portion of the OP’s situation. |
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| 04/08/08 12:08pm |
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SusanC View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1694470 My new baby
As I’ve discussed with Scylla at length.. and trust me.. you won’t find someone any harder to debunk than Scylla... if you ask 100 different snake owners how to do something... you will get 100 different answers... but you will find things that remain constant. That is the great thing about corns... they are hearty and easy to maintain... some people offer NO heat what so ever as long as their room temps are in the 70’s... and their snakes thrive... some people..like me... keep their house around 60 degrees... my snakes wouldn’t survive without heat. So, can you use a heat lamp? Like he said.. ofcourse! does he recommend it? no... I use an UTH with no light whatsoever except for natural light.. different strokes for different folks.. and luckily.. the corn snake is one that is hearty enough to survive and make us all feel like we are master snake keepers... however... I wouldn’t try that with say... a Ball Python.. they never forgive. (Sorry to jump in ya there Scylla) Suz |
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| 04/08/08 12:36pm |
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Wisema2297 View Profile |
Message To: SusanC In reference to Message Id: 1694494 My new baby
I use heat tape becasue it uses less current and heats many snakes at once. I also have a seperate room with about 12 corns that have no extra heat added at all. The room stays in the mid 70’s and these corns have all grown from hathclings to adults and breed. |
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| 04/08/08 03:31pm |
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Wisema2297 View Profile |
Message To: Wisema2297 In reference to Message Id: 1694714 My new baby
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| 04/08/08 04:28pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: S*A*M In reference to Message Id: 1694231 My new baby
Quote: so ScyllaCharybdis, thats abit of wrong info their After re-reading this thread...I would like you to quote me where I provided "Wrong Info".
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| 04/09/08 02:35am |
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Yasha View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1695715 My new baby
That being said, I use a combination of both for my snakes. I use the UTH because it is easy, takes up no room, is fairly cheap and allows the snake to hide and get heat at the same time. I may get caught for this later so just let me say now, in advance, that YES snakes who hide under things being heated by the lamp and or sun, DO get heat, I just like the idea of belly heat, it sounds better for them somehow (honestly...) However, I do have a 50 watt day bulb in an exo terra lamp positioned over the hot side (for my Leopard Gecko as well, ((UTH and lamp combo)) though they are, like corns, nocturnal creatures...) because my temps where not high enough for my liking, plus it makes the tank look great! ^_~ So basically everyone gets their own opinion of this based on their own experience, and it’s pretty moot trying to change someones mind. Some people are UTH only people, some are lamp lovers, but a group of us are in the middle, and use what is necessary to get the temps right. |
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| 04/09/08 03:43am |
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S*A*M View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1693442 My new baby
Quote: The lamp is useless...return it to the store and buy a ExoTerra under-tank heater (UTH). Get the Medium Desert one.
As they are not useless, and they do the job. ok you gave advice there to but there not useless, they can work fine. personally, i prefer mats, currently using one for one of my bigger boids, not had problems yet but unlike my boyfrineds... his womas, hog island, argentines longnose, then his 5 brbs, all have lamps hed have lamps for all his corns to if it wernt for the fact he keeps them in a rack. when i remake my vivs, my bigger snakes will probably get lamps too. |
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| 04/09/08 05:41am |
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S*A*M View Profile |
Message To: S*A*M In reference to Message Id: 1695749 My new baby
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| 04/09/08 05:43am |
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Fps Master G View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1694470
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| 04/09/08 06:08am |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Fps Master G In reference to Message Id: 1695759 My new baby
it is a unit used to heat the enclosure of reptiles and ampibians. It goes under the vivarium to prevent burns as reptiles are not concious of heat below them and so will sit on the UTH till they burn. By keeping the UTH outside the viv you can give them bbelly heat without the worry of it burning them. The UTH provided ground heat or belly heat (Which a lamp does too by heating the ground - I had a detailed response about lamps and UTHs but my internet crashed and I lost it, it was too long for me to write again) which is an aid in digestion. Since this is OT to the OPs post (To which I appologise) if we want to continue discussing the UTH and lamp perhaps we should make a new post but I don’t really see any need to they both have their uses and the people who use them have preferences it’s more or less settled. Hope I explained the UTH I have probally left something out and so someone will correct me If I have, sorry I have no pictures of an UTH try googling it. Hornet |
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| 04/09/08 06:17am |
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Nakita92 View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1695763 My new baby
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| 04/09/08 09:48pm |
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Eli_&_Anthony View Profile |
Message To: Nakita92 In reference to Message Id: 1696863
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| 04/09/08 10:08pm |
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Demon the corn snake View Profile |
Message To: Eli_&_Anthony In reference to Message Id: 1696884 My new baby
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| 04/09/08 10:14pm |
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Ichigo View Profile |
Message To: Demon the corn snake In reference to Message Id: 1696891 My new baby
how did he die? |
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| 04/09/08 10:21pm |
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Whiplash Hornet View Profile |
Message To: Ichigo In reference to Message Id: 1696898 My new baby
It could well be from the regurge as this can be very bad for them. I am sorry to hear about your snake Hornet |
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| 04/09/08 11:34pm |
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Fps Master G View Profile |
Message To: Whiplash Hornet In reference to Message Id: 1696999
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| 04/10/08 09:10am |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Nakita92 In reference to Message Id: 1696863 My new baby
Quote: Just a question. I currently use a lamp for my snake but when I upgrade his tank to a 30 gal long (aka 30 gal breeder) I am going to use a UTH and see how it goes. My dad has a old water bed heater (it has a therm, I checked) Is that going to be okay to use? That way I don’t have to go out and buy a UTH specifically for reptiles. No! Do not use a waterbed heater to heat your Corn Snake’s enclosure. Too many things can go wrong and "Fry" your snake.
================== To S*A*M... Quote: As they are not useless, and they do the job. ok you gave advice there to but there not useless, they can work fine.
So even though you use "Heat Mats" / UTHs like I recommended the OP use (and get rid of the Heat "Lamp" you still felt the need to post:personally, i prefer mats, currently using one for one of my bigger boids, not had problems yet Quote: so ScyllaCharybdis, thats abit of wrong info their You don’t make any sense to me here!
I feel "Heat Lamps" are useless because... |
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