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 #1715472


Kayleighb Brunner
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 Frozen

I know a lot or almost all of you guys feed frozen. And I have made the decision to switch not because of the danger just because of gas prices and how much it’s costing me. Anyway I know nothing about unfreezing rats/mice so any advice would be great. I’ve seen like pinkies for like 39 cents, I think this is a great deal. Is ordering them online fine? BTW have any of you switched from live to frozen and the snakes not like them??
Thanks for all you help!



04/24/08  09:43pm

 #1715535


Nakita92
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   Message To: Kayleighb Brunner   In reference to Message Id: 1715472


 Frozen

Well for pinkies they say 10-15 mins in a glass of hot but not boiling water, I use the hottest I can get from my tap, when you touch the mouse (through the plastic bag) you cant feel any cold is about right. Im not totally sure about larger mice. But you could just leave a frozen one in there and take it out every few mins until you cant feel any cold parts. Some people say that you may need to open the skull with a nail its called braining so that the snake can smell it really well. Or wiggling it in front of the snake. (Once again I am in no way an expert so check with others.)
04/24/08  10:22pm

 #1715552


Kayleighb Brunner
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   Message To: Nakita92   In reference to Message Id: 1715535


 Frozen

Thx for your help!
04/24/08  10:38pm

 #1715573


Nakita92
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   Message To: Kayleighb Brunner   In reference to Message Id: 1715552


 Frozen

You’re Welcome!



04/24/08  10:57pm

 #1715579


XKellyxVeitx
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   Message To: Nakita92   In reference to Message Id: 1715573


 Frozen

I had no problem switching Hayden. I changed while she was eating large pinkies. I had always fed her by dangling the mouse in the tank by the tail, so I don’t she she even knows yet, after 4 months, that the mice are already dead now.
04/24/08  11:05pm

 #1715592


Demon ???
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   Message To: XKellyxVeitx   In reference to Message Id: 1715579


 Frozen

i dont use frozen



04/24/08  11:14pm

 #1715784


Silenceafable
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   Message To: Demon ???   In reference to Message Id: 1715592


 Frozen

I breed, kill, and freeze my own feeders for all different types of snakes. The hottest water out of my tap thaws a pink in about 2 minutes, fuzzies are about the same, hoppers take another 2 min, and adults another 2-3 minutes.



04/25/08  08:58am

 #1716108


DesertUro-
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   Message To: Silenceafable   In reference to Message Id: 1715784


 Frozen

just wondering silenceafable how do you kill them?



04/25/08  03:32pm

 #1716186


Ichigo
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   Message To: DesertUro-   In reference to Message Id: 1716108


 Frozen

hold the pinkies or rts in the bag you bought them in all the way home and then when you feel no more cold,rip the bag and let the snakew do the rest



04/25/08  04:52pm

 #1716187


Ichigo
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   Message To: DesertUro-   In reference to Message Id: 1716108


 Frozen

hold the pinkies or rats in the bag you bought them in all the way home and then when you feel no more cold,rip the bag and let the snakew do the rest



04/25/08  04:53pm

 #1721884


HENRYANDROSEY
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1716186


 Frozen

Never put a mouse or rat in a plastic bag, as it can suffocate the snake if it gets trapped.

Another tip is, if you squeeze the nose of the mouse until it draws blood; this makes it more inviting to the snake, since i have been doing that i have seen more action out of the snakes in a long time. They strike at it and coil around it.

Hope this helps, Andrew.
05/01/08  06:25am

 #1721888


Marg
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   Message To: HENRYANDROSEY   In reference to Message Id: 1721884


 Frozen

Quote:

hold the pinkies or rats in the bag you bought them in all the way home and then when you feel no more cold,rip the bag and let the snakew do the rest

First - this does Not warm the prey enough!!!

Second -

Quote:

Never put a mouse or rat in a plastic bag, as it can suffocate the snake if it gets trapped

(had to read this one 3 x - LoL)

I agree... Never put a plastic bad in with a snake (or any other animal)!

You are just askingfor trouble!

* I put the mice (or rats, if you use them) in a cup/bowl of warm water
in the bag they were purchased in
(if you buy bulk - use heavy duty baggies/freezer baggies) till thawed.

Then run the tap water till it gets as hot as it can get and place the mouse in
the hot water till warm to the touch.
Remove From Baggie and offerto the snake.

*If water seeps into the baggie, dry the prey, so that no substrate will stick to it.

*Never microwave the water, as it can be too hot and Cook the prey!

*Never microwave the Prey, as It can Explode! *yucky mess - stinks to high heaven
  (I never nuked one personally, but know of some one who did)



05/01/08  06:44am

 #1721893


HENRYANDROSEY
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1716187


 Frozen

dont ever under any circumstance leave the mose in a bag for the snake, unless you are supervising at all times. the snake could sufficate and die a neasty horrible death.

just dangle the mouse or rat infront of the sanke and let them take it.

p.s. heat it up in plastic tub rather than a bag.
05/01/08  06:51am

 #1721969


Marg
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   Message To: HENRYANDROSEY   In reference to Message Id: 1721893


 Frozen

Ummm - repeating yourself? LoL

You Can use a bag to heat the Mouse in a Baggie, in water...

heat it in a plastic tub (?) how exactly do you do This?


*sorry about anywords that are stuck together...
I need new batteries formy keyboard - LoL
05/01/08  08:42am

 #1722011


Silenceafable
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   Message To: Marg   In reference to Message Id: 1721969


 Frozen

Quote:

just wondering silenceafable how do you kill them?



For my rats, I use a CO2 chamber, and I will do the same for my mice, but if I’m out of co2, I usually give the mice a quick snap on the edge of a ceramic dish, and it breaks the neck killing them instantly.
05/01/08  09:48am

 #1722369


Ichigo
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   Message To: Silenceafable   In reference to Message Id: 1722011


 Frozen

Quote:

Never put a mouse or rat in a plastic bag, as it can suffocate the snake if it gets trapped.


First of all i didnt mean let the snake eat the rat or pinkie in the bag! i meant hold it in the bag and let it thaw out!and then feed it to the snake OUT OF THE BAG!and marg,it warms up the pinkies (and fuzzies) for me just fine,and im talking about holding them for a little while.
05/01/08  04:42pm

 #1722380


Marg
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1722369


 Frozen

Sorry Ichigo, but you need to warm the prey More than just "holding them for a little while".
and..........

Quote:

hold the pinkies or rats in the bag you bought them in all the way home and then when you feel no more cold, rip the bag and let the snakew do the rest


To Me and anyoe elsewho caught this...

It looks like you Are saying "let the snake into the bag to eat the prey"!

Maybe you left the Important part out about taking the prey Out of the bag... more bad info giving

*sigh*



05/01/08  04:48pm

 #1722441


Ichigo
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   Message To: Marg   In reference to Message Id: 1722380


 Frozen

Quote:

It looks like you Are saying "let the snake into the bag to eat the prey"!

Maybe you left the Important part out about taking the prey Out of the bag... more bad info giving

*sigh*



well sorry for leaving that ittle info out,and it doesnt effect the snake if you warm it up in your hand!
05/01/08  05:44pm

 #1722467


Marg
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1722441


 Frozen

Maybe some day when your snake can not digest properly...

Quote:

well sorry for leaving that ittle info out

Someone Would be Sorry if they actually Did follow Your advice!

Proof read before you post!
05/01/08  06:01pm

 #1722546


Ichigo
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   Message To: Marg   In reference to Message Id: 1722467


 Frozen

Quote:

Maybe some day when your snake can not digest properly...


Someone Would be Sorry if they actually Did follow Your advice!

Proof read before you post!



well you know i dont really care what you say,my snake is fine and i hold the pinkies in my hand for about an hour and ther’ye thawed too!And i forgot to say that i put it in hot water for about 1 minute after i thaw in my hands!!!!!!!! And yes i did proff read before i posted,out of a book by philip purser!!!!!!!!!
05/01/08  06:52pm

 #1722584


Kayleighb Brunner
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1722546


 Frozen

ok, ok guys calm down.



05/01/08  07:19pm

 #1722609


Ichigo
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   Message To: Kayleighb Brunner   In reference to Message Id: 1722584


 Frozen

ok........
05/01/08  07:38pm

 #1722610


Ichigo
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1722609


 Frozen

i have a short temper.........thats why i act a little inmature.
05/01/08  07:38pm

 #1722620


Kayleighb Brunner
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1722610


 Frozen

o really..



05/01/08  07:48pm

 #1723014


Silenceafable
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   Message To: Kayleighb Brunner   In reference to Message Id: 1722620


 Frozen

Ichigo, it may work for you to hold the pinkies or fuzzies in your hand (in the bag), but there is the possibility, and I think this is what Marg is talking about, that they may not be thawed through and through meaning the core of the body is most likely still cold or cold enough that it may, at some point, affect your snake. I would suggest using hot water to thaw any frozen prey because I can guarantee taht you will not be able to thaw a hopper or adult mouse just by holding it in a bag in your hand.
05/02/08  08:12am

 #1723028


Marg
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   Message To: Silenceafable   In reference to Message Id: 1723014


 Frozen

Thank You!!!

    



05/02/08  08:39am

 #1723032


Kayleighb Brunner
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   Message To: Marg   In reference to Message Id: 1723028


 Frozen

Agreed!
05/02/08  08:44am

 #1723424


Ichigo
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   Message To: Silenceafable   In reference to Message Id: 1723014


 Frozen

silenceafable,it told marg already that i put them in hot water,and yes the pinkie or fuzzy is thaw all the way through!even before i put in in hot water!heres the Quote


Quote:

And i forgot to say that i put it in hot water for about 1 minute after i thaw in my hands!!!!!!!!





05/02/08  05:35pm

 #1723900


Marg
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   Message To: Ichigo   In reference to Message Id: 1723424


 Frozen

BTW Ich - you say

Quote:

my snake is fine


What happened to the Other baby snake that you have in your profile that says
"I have 2 baby corn snakes"   ???
05/03/08  09:07am

 #1723927


Ichigo
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   Message To: Marg   In reference to Message Id: 1723900


 Frozen

it was a typo.i meant to say my snakes are fine......... lol
05/03/08  09:55am
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